Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

> On 15 December 2016 at 23:00 Roger Bamkin wrote: > > Thanks Deryk, there seems to be some deep feelings on this one. There > seems to some suspicion that there is a conspiracy to raise the profile of > women on Wikipedia. well they are right! However that doesn't mean to say > that we

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Thanks Deryk, there seems to be some deep feelings on this one. There seems to some suspicion that there is a conspiracy to raise the profile of women on Wikipedia. well they are right! However that doesn't mean to say that we want to ignore the rules. I recently wrote an article about a Niger

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

I've just gone ahead and closed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Laura_Coryton as keep. In a sense the BBC is gaming the system by writing out loud that Laura Coryton doesn't have an article but should be, because the article itself then becomes a reliable source which

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

A comment from User:Czar https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_UK/Events/BBC_100_Women Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 09/12/16 11:10, Andrew West wrote: > the lists are notable > and of public interest because they have been featured in TV > programmes, And radio too! :-) Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Thanks Lucy On 5 December 2016 at 14:41, Lucy Crompton-Reid < lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Dear all > > As I know some of you will already be aware, Wikimedia UK, Women in Red > and Wikimedia editors and communities around the world are partnering with > BBC 100 Women to raise aw

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Fortunately nobody is suggesting deletion :-) However there is a good learning point for future projects, in that on any start of a project the question of copyright needs to be taken on, to ensure all possible tees are crossed and ies dotted so that volunteers can avoid getting bogged down in post

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 9 December 2016 at 10:49, Richard Nevell wrote: > That's interesting. How was the issue handled with A History of the World in > 100 Objects a few years back? I don't think that the issue was ever mentioned by anyone. In cases like [[A History of the World in 100 Objects]], [[Our Top Ten Treas

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

That's interesting. How was the issue handled with *A History of the World in 100 Objects* a few years back? On 9 December 2016 at 10:13, Fæ wrote: > See [1], in short if a list can be created by repeatable analysis of > data, then it's not copyrightable, otherwise, by definition, it must > have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Thanks Fae, this is super helpful! By 'legal clarity' I meant 'will talk to people in the community who know more about this than I do', rather than 'see a lawyer' :) Will follow up early next week. Cheers Lucy On 9 December 2016 at 10:13, Fæ wrote: > See [1], in short if a list can be created

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

See [1], in short if a list can be created by repeatable analysis of data, then it's not copyrightable, otherwise, by definition, it must have subjective creativity and so is copyrightable. The 100 women list is not independently repeatable, so to be published on Wikipedia without future risk of de

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Hi all There does seem to be some disagreement as to whether copyright is actually an issue in the case of the list of 100 women. I will be doing quite a lot of follow up with the BBC over the next few weeks so am happy to add this to my list of things to discuss, however I will try to seek legal

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 08/12/16 17:32, Michael Peel wrote: > An interesting question that could do with a speedy response (and maybe > a copyright release email from the BBC to OTRS) has been posted at: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:100_Women_(BBC)#Is_it_not_a_copyright_violation_to_publish_this_list.3F >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

ots of ways... > > > Sara > > > -- > *From:* Wikimediauk-l on > behalf of Roger Bamkin > *Sent:* 08 December 2016 19:36 > *To:* wikimediauk-l > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia > > > The editors in London who had edito

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia The editors in London who had editor support did very well. We trained lots of very bright people. I know that we've had dozens in other languages and we had newbies in London creating two good articles. A link to the detail might have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

The editors in London who had editor support did very well. We trained lots of very bright people. I know that we've had dozens in other languages and we had newbies in London creating two good articles. A link to the detail might have been a catch all but we no have a bare Edit button above every

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

An interesting question that could do with a speedy response (and maybe a copyright release email from the BBC to OTRS) has been posted at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:100_Women_(BBC)#Is_it_not_a_copyright_violation_to_publish_this_list.3F Thanks, Mike > On 8 Dec 2016, at 11:37, Lucy Crom

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 08/12/16 13:37, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote: > > At the training events we are of course reinforcing the need for > appropriate secondary sources, and lots of preparation work has been > done by Roger and other Women in Red editors, Stuart Prior at Wikimedia > UK and BBC staff to create lists of w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 08/12/16 12:56, WereSpielChequers wrote: > > I'm wondering whether it might be worth doing an article rescue > editathon as part of the next feminism event - Or any other themed event? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Thanks Jonathan, that's a great idea! At the training events we are of course reinforcing the need for appropriate secondary sources, and lots of preparation work has been done by Roger and other Women in Red editors, Stuart Prior at Wikimedia UK and BBC staff to create lists of women to be added

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Since the BBC is encouraging people to create unsourced articles on living people there is a high possibility they will turn up at either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:BLP_articles_proposed_for_deletion or even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion I've res

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 08/12/16 12:01, Sara Thomas wrote: > > As is my custom, I'll be placing the {{new user article}} template on > the talk pages of any articles created by new users today. Which then expands to ** This is an article recently created by a new user. Mor

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Fantastic, thanks Sara! Lucy On 8 December 2016 at 12:01, Sara Thomas wrote: > Hello all! > > On my way from a wiki session in Edinburgh to the BBC session in Glasgow, > where m'colleague Ewan is already guiding that team. I provided a training > session a week or so ago in preparation for today

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Hello all! On my way from a wiki session in Edinburgh to the BBC session in Glasgow, where m'colleague Ewan is already guiding that team. I provided a training session a week or so ago in preparation for today, but as we all know, the best way to learn is by doing. I'm so excited to be able to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Hi all I've added the link to the enwiki help pages on the project meta page, and I'm talking to the BBC about updating the News pages...thanks all! Lucy On 8 December 2016 at 11:00, WereSpielChequers wrote: > Any chance of getting them to tweak http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ > technology-38219838

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

> > On 08 December 2016 at 09:46 Fæ wrote: > > > Agree with Gordo. It would be sensible for event coordinators to get > the BBC news piece changed this morning. It would be a lot better to > give a link to the on-wiki help. > I know Lucy is aware of the connection between com

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Any chance of getting them to tweak http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38219838 If you create a biography of a living person on Wikipedia you really need to cite a reliable source - such as a BBC article about them. On 8 December 2016 at 10:24, Michael Peel wrote: > It's possible to follow th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 08/12/16 10:24, Michael Peel wrote: > It's possible to follow the edits through the hashtag, at: > http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/search/100Womenwiki > Maybe help interact with the new users there? Thanks Mike. I have just now interacted! Gordo __

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

It's possible to follow the edits through the hashtag, at: http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/search/100Womenwiki Maybe help interact with the new users there? There are already a few problematic usernames being used... (e.g., User:BBC100) T

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38219838 The video is very flashy! Articles in red, need your help! All you need to know in 100 seconds Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Hi Gordo This is one of the issues we've been discussing with the BBC all along...the idea being to focus on in person training events where people get a real sense of how to edit and are far less likely to be reverted. Of course the BBC were quite focused on having a large scale call to action...

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Agree with Gordo. It would be sensible for event coordinators to get the BBC news piece changed this morning. It would be a lot better to give a link to the on-wiki help. I have plenty of experience creating biographies, but I still had two new biography stubs for women academics put up for deleti

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

On 05/12/16 14:41, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote: > > As I know some of you will already be aware, Wikimedia UK, Women in Red > and Wikimedia editors and communities around the world are partnering > with BBC 100 Women to raise awareness of the gender gap on Wikipedia, > improve coverage of women and e

[Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

Dear all As I know some of you will already be aware, Wikimedia UK, Women in Red and Wikimedia editors and communities around the world are partnering with BBC 100 Women to raise awareness of the gender gap on Wikipedia, improve coverage of women and encourage women to edit. A multi-location, mul