Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of new User Groups

Hi Pine, I recall that several representatives at the User Group meetup at the WMCON last spring noted that they would like to see more sessions that focused on the needs of smaller affiliates, and I am glad that you brought it up. It would be great to start a list of the kinds of session topics

[Wikimedia-l] New blog roundup needs your input

Hi all, As part of ongoing attempts to improve the Wikimedia blog,[1] we're going to trial a digest/roundup of stories from around the Wikimedia movement. As I'm not omnipresent, this will require input from you. Please send any timely and interesting story ideas you have to me via email or on my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Hi all, I support Chris' arguments and I would add some points. As administrator of the chapters mailing list I think that the best is to recover some "historical memory", which is never regrettable. Considering that we are going to celebrate several year of birthday of Wikipedia or of Wikimed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Like Greg explained, the request to have such a list came *from the affiliates* themselves. So why force it to become another wikimedia-l? M. El 19/10/2015 a las 09:21 p.m., Gregory Varnum escribió: There has already been discussion amongst some affiliates about this issue (including one on M

[Wikimedia-l] Global Wikipedia Open Access Editathon Happening NOW

All week, in celebration of #OAWeek, SPARC and Wikipedia Library are hosting a global, virtual, week-long, open access editathon. You can jump right in with a full guide and easy entry points for making your first contribution to the event. We're aiming for *1000* improvements and tracking the pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

There was already a discussion on this list and its privacy: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network#Mailing_list_request_for_comment I suggest building on that rather t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Chris - and I suspect others - who are already welcome to join this list - > are why I think it is not a foregone conclusion that it will be kept > private. > > Remember that we have a diverse group of 80+ affiliates. It may in fact > not b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Chris - and I suspect others - who are already welcome to join this list - are why I think it is not a foregone conclusion that it will be kept private. Remember that we have a diverse group of 80+ affiliates. It may in fact not be that the will of the ones who requested it represents the will o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Looking at the current (private) chapters' list, for at least a year 90%+ of the traffic has been announcements that were cross-posted to Wikimedia-l. The other 10% is invitations and requests addressed to "chapters people" that might be boring to most people on wikimedia-l but could have been publ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Again - I do not feel comfortable making this decision on behalf of the affiliates. I will pass all of this along to them when we have a list going enough to discuss such things. If the consensus from the community is that a change be imposed on this list, which I agree is the right of the comm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

You've set up a strawman argument, Greg, and your solution is suboptimal. This is a community issue, as SJ correctly notes, and it should be discussed with the community. Leaving it private "for now" and polling the list affiliates (or going back to a virtually unknown Meta page) is going to result

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

There has already been discussion amongst some affiliates about this issue (including one on Meta-Wiki) - which is where this comes from. I suggest we leave it private for now and see what the affiliates on the list would like to do. I disagree with your sentiment that none of the 10 points req

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

+1 for public archives to start. Private lists are almost never made public later, even where there's no need for privacy. A more transparent alternative is to make any list publicly-archived (archives world-readable, even if membership and ability to post to the list is restricted), while settin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

Our current plan is to bring this up with the list once there is a good number of people on it. Given that the list is for affiliates, our feeling is that it is best for them to decide how they would like to use the list. If a structure is imposed on them, it is less likely they will use the li

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list

I too question the need for a private mailing list. We should require more than a just a "consistent request" before we reduce transparency and create yet another walled garden away from the community. --Ed On Oct 16, 2015 12:07 AM, "Pine W" wrote: > Got it. Thanks Varnent. > > Regarding the pri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of new User Groups

Hoi, The difference is in being able to get support when you need it and a model where support is pushed on you. Yes, support may be helpful but when it is given for all the wrong reasons, it is counter productive. Thanks, GerardM On 19 October 2015 at 13:41, Gnangarra wrote: > being able

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for July-September 2015

Sorry James -- I replied before I saw your email. Happy to continue this discussion elsewhere Pine. -Toby On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Toby Negrin wrote: > Hi Pine -- > > I can't speak for the other groups, but for your question on Reading and > push notifications, we're having discussions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for July-September 2015

Hi Pine -- I can't speak for the other groups, but for your question on Reading and push notifications, we're having discussions with the echo folks about using this platform for push notifications for the apps. We're interested in combining this feature with feeds on the apps with the idea that i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of new User Groups

being able to seek assistance and advice from Affcom for specific needs is good concept because no matter how large the organisation mentoring in an invaluable service we can all use. The issue will be in ensuring the mentors have the skills, the knowledge and importantly the time(at the right tim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Number of new User Groups

Hoi, Ask yourself, you want more mentoring and in front of you are 50 user groups; you do not understand their language, you do not know their culture. They do the necessary self administration, the minimal requirements to inform about whatever it is they do so well. They do describe that they ar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Iraqi Wikimedians

Congratulations guys! -- Samir Elsharbaty, Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation +20.100.944.3478 education.wikimedia.org On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Nasir Khan wrote: > Congrats :D > > > -- > *Nasir Khan Saikat* > www.nasirkhn.com > > > On 16 October 2015 at 04:18, Carlos M. Co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for July-September 2015

Thanks for reading them Pine! I think it would be great if you reach out to those teams (either on meta talk pages if they have them, other mailing lists etc). I think leaving the questions here all as one pile is sadly a recipe for non-response as not only are most staff members (like most communi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation quarterly reviews for July-September 2015

Thanks Tilman. I finally got around to skimming most of this. Questions & Comments below: Communications: seems to be firing on all cylinders. Team Practices: seems to be making a difference in supporting other individuals and teams. Some of the metrics chosen look great. Release engineering: gr