Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-09-01 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
eptember 1, 2022 10:22 AM To: Ramsey Gurley ; WebObjects-Dev List Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build [You don't often get email from r...@ganymede.org. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] I was able to check out this branch, and

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-09-01 Thread Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev
that much. *From:* D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2022 10:40 PM *To:* WebObjects-Dev List *Subject:* Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build Thanks Hugi That worked. Maven didn't copy the built frameworks into /Library/WebO

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-08-29 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
t Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build Thanks Hugi That worked. Maven didn't copy the built frameworks into /Library/WebObjects/Local/Library/Frameworks like the ant install used to (sudo ant -Duser.home=$HOME frameworks.install). But my apps are maven now so they don&#x

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-07-29 Thread D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev
Thanks Hugi That worked. Maven didn't copy the built frameworks into /Library/WebObjects/Local/Library/Frameworks like the ant install used to (sudo ant -Duser.home=$HOME frameworks.install). But my apps are maven now so they don't need that except for when I was eogenerating. I changed defa

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-07-28 Thread D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev
FYI, these URLs have changed to the following https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/3c269a3196d0c4f2da486f1109c16d42 https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/d2ba6da9e4942f4ece95d7a721159cd1 And by the way, how do I build wonder with maven? I need the frameworks built so I can use eogenerate.

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-29 Thread Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev
> On Jun 29, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > In fact, a close second (some would say #1 benefit) is MUCH FASTER builds. > Like 17 times faster. Use mvnd for faster parallel Maven builds: https://github.com/apache/maven-mvnd

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-29 Thread Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev
radle > natures. Someone would have to write that I think. It's probably not a small > project. > > From: Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 6:12 PM > To: WebObjects-Dev List <mailto:webobjects

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev
On 29 Jun 2022, at 10:42, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev wrote: > It’s not a completely different issue is it? > > If anyone builds Wonder as part of their CI/CD and is currently using ANT, > they will need to switch to Maven going forward. Is that how you build Aaron, or just a hypothet

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
ures, but there's no code in there for gradle natures. Someone would have to write that I think. It's probably not a small project. From: Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 6:12 PM To: WebObjects-Dev List Subject: Re: [Proposa

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev
It’s not a completely different issue is it? If anyone builds Wonder as part of their CI/CD and is currently using ANT, they will need to switch to Maven going forward. While we wish everyone who makes changes to Wonder would make pull requests to integrate them but that doesn’t always happen.

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev
No. We are only talking about the building of Wonder itself. Projects using Wonder can be built in different ways. It is a completely different issue. - ray On 6/28/22 06:45, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev wrote: I admit I’m only half following this thread but I am still using Ant right now

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev
I admit I’m only half following this thread but I am still using Ant right now — I’ve tried to move to Maven once or twice, but it was a fair amount of work from where I was at Are we considering removal of ant as an option? > On Jun 28, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Don Lindsay via Webobjects-dev > wrot

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Don Lindsay via Webobjects-dev
I use maven almost exclusively for all my projects. Wonder and otherwise. > On Jun 16, 2022, at 17:42, Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Hey guys, > > I've been talking to other Wonder users/committers lately. Keeping the Ant > build configuration up to date in Wonder is becomi

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-21 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
ange Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:36 PM To: Ramsey Gurley Cc: WebObjects-Dev List Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build You don't often get email from hpra...@gmail.com. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> Hey Ramsey, We have ex

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-21 Thread Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev
.apple.com>> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 6:37 AM > To: Dev WO mailto:webobje...@anazys.com>>; > WebObjects-Dev List <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> > Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build > > BTW, > > I would be

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-19 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
-To: Dev WO Date: Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:32 AM To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build I’m like Ted, I though it would prevent me from keeping my current (ant) projects as they are. I understand this only applies to building Wonder. I don’t

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-17 Thread Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev
@logicsquad.net>> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 8:06 PM To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build Hey Ted, Already answered, but just for additional reassurance: On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:17, Theodore

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-17 Thread Dev WO via Webobjects-dev
y (WO)" > Reply-To: Paul Hoadley > Date: Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 8:06 PM > To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" > Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build > > Hey Ted, > > Already answered, but just for additional reassurance: > > On 17 Jun

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-17 Thread Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev
y, June 16, 2022 at 8:06 PM To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build Hey Ted, Already answered, but just for additional reassurance: On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:17, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: Wh

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev
Hi all I dont’ build wonder myself and I still use ant for old projects even if maven works great. if it helps and save time maintaining wonder… yes please, show us the way and move to maven. Have a nice day, Jérémy > Le 17 juin 2022 à 03:14, Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev > a écrit : >

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev
It has been getting harder and harder to build Wonder with ant. The last time I had to, I ended up not bothering to finish the build. Life is too short. Yes, I am still using ant in my own apps, but that is different. So, my vote is: Make it so. cheers - ray On 6/16/22 17:05, Paul Hoad

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev
> (and if you're using the builds from jenkins.wocommunity.org > , you're already using the maven built > frameworks). So… This was a blatant lie on my behalf (would love some recipes for crow right now). Jenkins currently uses the ant build. But Maven in gener

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev
I also support this proposal. Thanks for maintaining and improving wonder Henrique et al. Tim On 17/6/22 09:58, Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev wrote: On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:12, Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev wrote: What do you think? I fully support this proposal. -- Paul Hoadley h

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev
Hey Ted, Already answered, but just for additional reassurance: On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:17, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev wrote: > What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted > Maven... It won't affect your projects! This is purely about building the Won

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev
On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:12, Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev wrote: > What do you think? I fully support this proposal. -- Paul Hoadley https://logicsquad.net/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ ___ Do not post admin requests to the li

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev
Hi Ted, Thanks for your feedback. > On 16 Jun 2022, at 19:47, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > > What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted > Maven... We don't mean to cause any harm to existing users. However, supporting two build systems in Wonder slows down pro

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev
Thanks for raising the issue Henrique! It probably comes as no surprise that I support this :). Ted; just to clarify, this proposal only applies to the building of Wonder itself. Wonder's maven build generates artifacts/bundles that can be consumed by Ant applications, so nothing changes in tha

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev
What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted Maven... Riddle me this how are the docs or examples on the Wiki to implement Maven? Can you point me to some good references so I can come on board? Ted On 6/16/22, 6:42 PM, "Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev"