Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Think Pascal 4 on the Mac was really good too. Let me tell you. You couldn't beat Turbo Pascal 4 for ease of use. It ran off of a single floppy right out of the box. No configuration, no downloading modules or patches. And it was FAST. Especially compared to Microsoft's crappy developm

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Galen Rhodes
Whops. Actually that was for Pascal to C++. The only thing I can find on Pascal to Java is a couple of papers discussing what it would take to do it. But, seeing as how C++ is awfully close to Java I don't think it would take much. -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.c

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Galen Rhodes
You're right. How did we ever get along before Google? http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/ptoc/Readme.htm -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; I believe there already is one. Or maybe that is to C++, I dont remembe

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; I believe there already is one. Or maybe that is to C++, I dont remember. Don On Jun 12, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote: Maybe we need to develop a Turbo Pascal to Java converter? Then all of us nostalgic folk could bask in the warm glow of units. -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PR

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Galen Rhodes
Maybe we need to develop a Turbo Pascal to Java converter? Then all of us nostalgic folk could bask in the warm glow of units. -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com On Jun 12, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; Keeping in the same vein as other naming convent

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Galen Rhodes
Let me tell you. You couldn't beat Turbo Pascal 4 for ease of use. It ran off of a single floppy right out of the box. No configuration, no downloading modules or patches. And it was FAST. Especially compared to Microsoft's crappy development tools. -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; Keeping in the same vein as other naming conventions with WO, I respectfully recommend Fluffy Pascal. Don On Jun 12, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Well, we already have WO Pascal, and it's me :-P Heck, we even have two Pascal in the community. I guess I can be Fat Pascal

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Don Lindsay
PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Maven vs Ant To: "Don Lindsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "WebObjects Development" Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:10 PM How about "WO Pascal" or, better yet, "TurboWO"! -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Don Lindsay
Hey! There ya go we can get Borland to help. :) Don On Jun 12, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote: How about "WO Pascal" or, better yet, "TurboWO"! -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: He,he. WebObjects Cobol! Now

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread David LeBer
On 12-Jun-08, at 10:42 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Well, we already have WO Pascal, and it's me :-P Heck, we even have two Pascal in the community. I guess I can be Fat Pascal :-P No, you are just a more robust implementation. How about "WO Pascal" or, better yet, "TurboWO"! -- Galen Rhod

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Well, we already have WO Pascal, and it's me :-P Heck, we even have two Pascal in the community. I guess I can be Fat Pascal :-P How about "WO Pascal" or, better yet, "TurboWO"! -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread jerry porter
Or perhaps WO .NET? Being human is the strangest thing I have ever done. Jerry Porter --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Galen Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Galen Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Maven vs Ant > To: "Don Lindsay" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Galen Rhodes
How about "WO Pascal" or, better yet, "TurboWO"! -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: He,he. WebObjects Cobol! Now thats an idea. :) Don On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote: Let's bring back Makefiles. Th

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-12 Thread Don Lindsay
He,he. WebObjects Cobol! Now thats an idea. :) Don On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote: Let's bring back Makefiles. That's what I learned to use back in the 80's. I miss the 80's. Where's my Pet Shop Boys CD? -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com On J

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-11 Thread Chuck Hill
Newer does not necessarily indicate better. XML vs plists (for most things)? I find Ant better than make, though far from perfect. When I have used Maven it always seems like far, far too much effort for what work it saved. Chuck On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote: Let's

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-11 Thread Galen Rhodes
Let's bring back Makefiles. That's what I learned to use back in the 80's. I miss the 80's. Where's my Pet Shop Boys CD? -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Henrique Prange wrote: Hi G

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-11 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Henrique Prange wrote: Hi Galen, I think it is not like WOLips vs Xcode where the latter was deprecated and everybody must use the former. In this case, Maven is an alternative to Ant. In fact, you can use both if you want (like Wonder does). Anyway, a mechanism [

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-11 Thread Henrique Prange
Hi Galen, I think it is not like WOLips vs Xcode where the latter was deprecated and everybody must use the former. In this case, Maven is an alternative to Ant. In fact, you can use both if you want (like Wonder does). Anyway, a mechanism [1][2] to develop WO projects with Maven is not recent. Th

Re: Maven vs Ant

2008-06-11 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Galen Rhodes wrote: So, is Maven becoming the new standard for building WebObjects instead of Ant? Personally, I really hope NOT. Using Maven to get WO snapshots are one thing. Using it for all WO development is not something I see any advantage in for the

Re: DON'T PANIC (Was: Maven vs Ant)

2008-06-11 Thread Joe Little
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:49 AM, David LeBer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11-Jun-08, at 7:14 AM, Galen Rhodes wrote: > >> So, is Maven becoming the new standard for building WebObjects instead of >> Ant? From a WebObjects point of view, what advantages does Maven have over >> Ant? > > The ann

Re: DON'T PANIC (Was: Maven vs Ant)

2008-06-11 Thread David LeBer
On 11-Jun-08, at 7:53 AM, Galen Rhodes wrote: Don't get me wrong. I wasn't complaining or having a panic attack. I just suddenly started seeing a lot of talk about Maven in the last few days and was just wondering if that was were the community was heading and if so what advantages there

Re: DON'T PANIC (Was: Maven vs Ant)

2008-06-11 Thread Galen Rhodes
Don't get me wrong. I wasn't complaining or having a panic attack. I just suddenly started seeing a lot of talk about Maven in the last few days and was just wondering if that was were the community was heading and if so what advantages there were to it. Just curious is all. -- Galen Rho

DON'T PANIC (Was: Maven vs Ant)

2008-06-11 Thread David LeBer
On 11-Jun-08, at 7:14 AM, Galen Rhodes wrote: So, is Maven becoming the new standard for building WebObjects instead of Ant? From a WebObjects point of view, what advantages does Maven have over Ant? The announcement for Apple yesterday of a nightly build server is interesting and welco

Maven vs Ant

2008-06-11 Thread Galen Rhodes
So, is Maven becoming the new standard for building WebObjects instead of Ant? From a WebObjects point of view, what advantages does Maven have over Ant? -- Galen Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photoyoda.com ___ Do not post admin requests to