[web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-15 Thread Ross Peoples
I did some testing on my app, which still implements the welcome app's default/index function that shows Hello World. Here are my results: BEFORE TRUNK UPDATE - CONCURRENCY 1 === Time taken for tests: 108 seconds Requests per second: 9.25 Time per request: 108.138

[web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-15 Thread Ross Peoples
I just noticed that the sessions are still being saved, which may be why I didn't see any performance improvement. I deleted all of the sessions inside the sessions folder, stopped and restarted the server, then visited the /default/index page that flashes 'You are successfully running web2py.'

[web2py] Re: Cant make a simple database

2011-03-15 Thread Ross Peoples
Since most orders contain line items, you might consider making an order_header table that stores information about the order, then a order_detail table that stores the information about each line item.

[web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-15 Thread Ross Peoples
No form, I have customized the layout.html file, but nothing that uses session or forms. Here is the controller: def index(): """ example action using the internationalization operator T and flash rendered by views/default/index.html or views/generic.html """ response.flash =

[web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-15 Thread Ross Peoples
Ok, that makes sense. My app connects to a MSSQL database on another machine, so that explains the response times > 100 ms for me. So would setting pool_size to 1 on the DAL keep at least one database connection open for future page views and speed things up?

[web2py] Dealing with BLOBs

2011-03-15 Thread Ross Peoples
I have been trying this for a while now and have had some serious problems with BLOBs. I have taken the DAL out of the equation by using executesql(). I am grabbing a picture blob from an existing database (each picture os about 35 kb). I am taking the blob and writing it to a file, but only the

[web2py] Re: Dealing with BLOBs

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
I figured it out finally. since I'm using MSSQL and FreeTDS, I had to work around a strange problem in FreeTDS that I'm guessing is a bug. Here is the StackOverflow page where the answer is: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1060035/using-pyodbc-on-ubuntu-to-insert-a-image-field-on-sql-server#

[web2py] Re: chrome beta admin problem

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
I have been running Chrome dev channel (11.0.696.3) for a while and never had this problem. Chrome does sometimes have a problem pulling data from its own cache. Try emptying the cache on it, close, and reopen to see if that solves it. Otherwise, you might have to manually delete Chrome's cache

[web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
I'm running a bunch of tests now. I'll report back in a few with my results.

[web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
Ok, here are the results from testing the welcome app: BEFORE TRUNK UPDATE = Time taken for tests: 91.843 seconds Requests per second: 10.89 Time per request: 91.843 ms BEFORE TRUNK UPDATE WITH MIGRATE=FALSE AND BYTECODE COMPILED ==

[web2py] Problem With New Router

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
Jonathan has done some awesome work with routing, and I hit my first problem. I have a table called auth_user_extended, which I use to store extended information not included in the default auth_user table. One of the fields in this table is an upload field called picture. The actual file in th

Re: [web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
In that case, great job to you both! On Mar 16, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > You should also thank Jonathan, we have been working together on this. > > Massimo > > On Mar 16, 11:40 am, Ross Peoples wrote: >> Ok, here are the results from testing the welco

Re: [web2py] Problem With New Router

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
Yep, you're right. I did it wrong. I should have known to use args=. Thanks. On Mar 16, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Lundell wrote: > On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Ross Peoples wrote: >> Jonathan has done some awesome work with routing, and I hit my first >> problem. I

Re: [web2py] Re: Major Speedup in trunk 10x

2011-03-16 Thread Ross Peoples
>From my understanding, sessions are only forgotten if not changed, so if you add something to the session, it gets saved. This speedup prevents saving the session when there is nothing to save. And you could always use cache or db for analytics if that's what you are looking for. Ross

[web2py] Re: We really should have something similar to DjDT in Web2py

2011-03-18 Thread Ross Peoples
That would be pretty cool. You sometimes have to jump through a few hoops to see all the variables and SQL code.

[web2py] Re: can web2py "internal webserver" handle serveral requests in parallel?

2011-03-22 Thread Ross Peoples
To answer simply, yes the embedded Rocket server will handle multiple simultaneous requests. However, if you have long-running processes, they may force Rocket to wait until they are finished before responding to additional requests. This is easy to overcome by using Python's multiprocess modul

[web2py] Re: the facebook clone video

2011-03-22 Thread Ross Peoples
You've got to admit that it's kind of funny that someone always asks about the recording script every time you post one of these videos. You must be doing something right :) On Mar 21, 2:19 pm, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > http://blip.tv/file/4912976

[web2py] Re: web2py default application suggestion

2011-03-22 Thread Ross Peoples
I had a similar question as you a few weeks ago. I can tell you that the reason why admin doesn't allow you to select a default application is because admin would have to edit routes.py, which could break everything if not done right and it also requires a server restart, so that's why no one has a

[web2py] Re: How do I set web2py applications as separate virtualhosts?

2011-03-22 Thread Ross Peoples
I tried this once and it failed terribly. I would also like to know how this would work. On Mar 22, 6:12 pm, Keith Pettit wrote: > Web2py works great for me through Apache and mod_wsgi.  All seems fast and > clean.  But now that I'm creating multiple web2py applications.  How can I > deploy multi

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py default application suggestion

2011-03-22 Thread Ross Peoples
t's kind of > confusing with the two examples that don't quite work so I thought I'd > mention it. > > Thanks for the help, > > -Keith > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Ross Peoples wrote: > I had a similar question as you a few weeks ago. I

[web2py] Re: can web2py "internal webserver" handle serveral requests in parallel?

2011-03-23 Thread Ross Peoples
Unless there is some unknown trick, I was unable to find a way to make this work, which is why I turned my script into a subclass of Process. Though I do know Rocket can handle multiple simultaneous downloads at once since it allows the browser to download multiple files from /static at the same

[web2py] Re: Web2py uses the wrong database

2011-03-29 Thread Ross Peoples
Another option for non-SQLite databases is to use truncate() on each table. But you have to truncate() in the right order for tables that reference each other, otherwise the truncate operation will fail.

[web2py] Re: MSSQL Connection error on MacOS

2011-03-31 Thread Ross Peoples
Bruno, I too have had this problem. It seems as if Mac OS X has some real problems connecting to MSSQL, which isn't too much of a surprise I guess. The way that I develop on Mac OS X may be crazy or over-complicated, but I find it works well for me: I set up a Ubuntu Server virtual machine in

Re: [web2py] Re: MSSQL Connection error on MacOS

2011-03-31 Thread Ross Peoples
Glad you were able to figure it out.

[web2py] Re: dashes in url

2011-03-31 Thread Ross Peoples
web2py will automatically convert dashes to underscores for the function names, so: getting-started will become: def getting_started(): return dict()

Re: [web2py] Re: dashes in url

2011-03-31 Thread Ross Peoples
You should be able to go to http://127.0.0.1:8000/[appname]/[controller]/getting-started and have the page show up. Replace [appname] with the name of your application, and [controller] with the name of the controller. So if your application is named 'myapp' and you are using the 'default' cont

[web2py] Re: web2py is too slow to respond to pages

2011-03-31 Thread Ross Peoples
Plumo said it best. Hosting really makes a difference. You may want to try testing a very simple page to see how long it takes to load: def test(): return dict() If that controller takes a few seconds to come up, then you know something is wrong with your hosting. If you are having problems

[web2py] Re: we need a few more good people!

2011-03-31 Thread Ross Peoples
I just added myself as well.

[web2py] Re: we need a few more good people!

2011-03-31 Thread Ross Peoples
Wow, I got approved for this about 4 hours ago and I just received an email from someone a few minutes ago in my area asking for help to develop a project in web2py. Massimo, is a job board or similar a possibility with this site? I only ask because it looks like people are already using it to

[web2py] Re: Question for mac users....

2011-04-01 Thread Ross Peoples
The extra shared memory allows PostgreSQL to cache more and perform better. It's mostly for production servers. It shouldn't have any adverse effects on the Mac. If it's the same setting I'm thinking of, then all it does is increase the amount of shared ram a single application can use. If it do

[web2py] Re: PostgreSQL Error "SELECT DISTINCT, ORDER BY expressions must appear in select list"

2011-04-04 Thread Ross Peoples
Showing us the model would help too, especially if you are connecting to a legacy database.

[web2py] Re: vote for Pycharm support for Web2py

2011-04-04 Thread Ross Peoples
I certainly did. We need a good IDE for web2py.

Re: [web2py] Re: Congratulations to this mailing list

2011-04-04 Thread Ross Peoples
I do have to say that the first time I went looking for help, I went to the IRC channel, that had 7 people in it, all of which were idle. The IRC channel would be great for answering quick questions for new users, and joining a mailing list does require a bit of commitment. For the more in dept

[web2py] Re: Get last inserted field value

2011-04-04 Thread Ross Peoples
Massimo's idea would work, but the table would need to have "membership_id" set up as an identity field. If your existing structure requires you to manually fill in this value yourself, then you would have to do your inserts manually using executesql: db.executesql("INSERT INTO member (membersh

[web2py] Re: ajax function

2011-04-05 Thread Ross Peoples
Could you be a little more specific? Are you trying to pass args and vars? Or are you trying to load HTML using AJAX and sending it to a target DIV? If you are using web2py's ajax function, you may be limited to what you can do. Worst case, you can always try calling jQuery's load() method: var

[web2py] Re: auto-update/refresh content

2011-04-05 Thread Ross Peoples
That's basically how it works. Although as you learn more about AJAX, you'll find that there are a bunch of different ways to do this, including more 2-way types of communication, where you would do something with the data returned from the controller before or after displaying it on the page. O

[web2py] Re: Putting logic back to controller

2011-04-05 Thread Ross Peoples
You should really be joining the queries: records = db(db.person.id==db.cats.owner).select(db.cats.ALL, db.person.ALL) Then in your view, you access this by using: {{for record in records:}} {{=record.person.name}}: {{=record.cats.name}} {{pass}}

[web2py] Re: Require login for whole application

2011-04-05 Thread Ross Peoples
Using the @auth.requires_login() on every function is the only way I know of. However, you may be able to put something like this at the top of each controller: if auth.user is None: redirect(URL('default', 'login')) However, it might cause a problem if you put that in your default control

[web2py] Re: z index of plugin mmodal and youtube

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
I'm not sure if there is a way to fix this. Maybe am experienced Flash guy can help, but since YouTube is using the Flash Player plugin, you may not be able to control its z-index. Even if you do, I don't think there is a cross-platform, cross-browser solution.

[web2py] Re: Join breaks virtual fields in the new web2py

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
I use the trunk on Mac. I actually downloaded MacHG, which is a GUI for Mercurial, then did a pull from the web2py repository on to a folder on my Mac. The way you get web2py from trunk is pretty much the same across all platforms. If you want to update your executable to the trunk version, you

Re: [web2py] Re: Python Message Queue

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
I was able to get background processes to work pretty well. I have an import script that takes a minute or two to run and is started by an ajax call from a button in one of my views, and the progress is reported back to the page as the script runs. The way I did this was to use multiprocessing.

[web2py] Re: Q: how to calling a function with parameters (NON request.args) from a URL obj?

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
If you are trying to pass arguments and variables to a controller, then you should use URL like this: URL('controller', 'function', args=['arg1', 'arg2'], vars={'var1': 'value1', 'var2': 'value2'}) Notice that args takes a list [ ], and vars takes a dictionary { }, even if you only have one ar

[web2py] Re: Q: how to calling a function with parameters (NON request.args) from a URL obj?

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
But if you are trying to pass arguments to an action in a controller like this: def test(arg1, arg2): #some code here This will not work, as actions must not take any arguments in the definition. If this is really what you're going for, then you could do something like this: def test():

[web2py] Re: Putting logic back to controller

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
I've never used GAE, but I know a lot of people here use it. I never knew that GAE couldn't do joins. Seems like a pretty big restriction on Google's part.

[web2py] Re: Q: how to calling a function with parameters (NON request.args) from a URL obj?

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
You're right, my bad :)

Re: [web2py] Re: Q: how to calling a function with parameters (NON request.args) from a URL obj?

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
If you want to do that, then you would make _test(arg1, arg2) its own function in the controller. So instead of: def test(): def _test(arg1, arg2): You would just do: def test(): # call _test(arg1, arg2) def _test(arg1, arg2): # code here Putting _test inside of test() just makes

Re: [web2py] Re: Python Message Queue

2011-04-06 Thread Ross Peoples
It should work. And if it's a never-ending process, then instead of calling it in the controller, you'd have to call it right after local_import in your db.py. You would also need to turn the ImportScript into a singleton and make sure it only gets initialized once because you don't want to spin

[web2py] Performance Considerations

2011-04-12 Thread Ross Peoples
I've been developing my application for 6 weeks now and I stay updated with the trunk version of web2py. I know that Massimo, Johnathan, and others have been working to increase performance of web2py, but I had to make a Django app for someone that was similar to one of the web2py applications I

[web2py] Re: Performance Considerations

2011-04-13 Thread Ross Peoples
I think the sessions are locked while a controller is running using the same session. So it would slow down concurrent requests via AJAX and things like that, but that's why you need to call session.forget(request). Massimo's tips will certainly help, but I didn't know if there were any known b

[web2py] Re: Trunk new importer working?

2011-04-26 Thread Ross Peoples
I turn everything into modules, so I use local_import() ALOT. If I have a local import that looks like this: DEBUG = True my_module = local_import('my_module', reload=DEBUG) How would I write that with the new importer?

[web2py] Re: Trunk new importer working?

2011-04-26 Thread Ross Peoples
Reloading would be awesome, but making it optional would be the best choice, as sometimes you want your modules to persist across requests for performance reasons (so that modules don't get reloaded for every request in a production environment).

[web2py] Re: Documentation web2py

2011-04-27 Thread Ross Peoples
Just tossing my two cents in here, but documentation (especially that of experimental features) is really important and can make a huge difference. Django actually had http://www.djangobook.com/en/2.0/ which was pretty cool, but they haven't maintained it. It gives you two versions, a stable boo

[web2py] Re: Best practice to start background process

2011-04-27 Thread Ross Peoples
This is a copy & paste of something I wrote a month ago or so: I was able to get background processes to work pretty well. I have an import script that takes a minute or two to run and is started by an ajax call from a button in one of my views, and the progress is reported back to the page as

[web2py] Fake Tables

2011-04-27 Thread Ross Peoples
I was wondering if anyone has ever tried anything like this before: I have an application that will be running mostly from data via Python API calls. This means that I won't really need to use the database at all. The problem with this approach, is that some important web2py features are only avail

Re: [web2py] Re: please help: owned by "windows way of doing things"

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Peoples
I just got around to responding...I was going to suggest PySerial, as I use that to communicate with an attached piece of hardware. Seems to work well cross-platform.

[web2py] Re: Fake Tables

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Peoples
After thinking about this a little more, maybe a custom DAL adapter or something would probably be the only way to handle this, which is no easy task. Does anyone else have any ideas?

[web2py] Re: Fake Tables

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Peoples
') > db.fetch_tables() > > mind this would be not too difficult to implement. > > > > > On Apr 28, 10:25 am, Ross Peoples wrote: > > After thinking about this a little more, maybe a custom DAL adapter or > > something would probably be the only way to handle this, which is no easy > > > task. Does anyone else have any ideas?

Re: [web2py] Fake Tables

2011-04-28 Thread Ross Peoples
I started thinking about an in-memory sqlite database, which might be an option. It would be a lot of work, but I think it might be my best option so far. How's the performance of in-memory sqlite databases (inserts and selects)?

[web2py] Re: help testing

2011-05-02 Thread Ross Peoples
This is pretty awesome and will be very helpful with large, enterprise applications, as well as applications that do many things that are not all related. I wonder if we could take this a bit further though... Plugins, for example, extract themselves to the various locations (models, controller

[web2py] Re: Confusion using experts4solutions

2011-05-03 Thread Ross Peoples
Experts4solutions has hooked me up with someone nearby looking to do a long term job which plans to sell a web2py app as an appliance. Instead of getting paid up front or by the hour, I chose to take a percentage of profits, since it's just me and the other person working on it. I can only devo

[web2py] Re: some new cool stuff in trunk under testing

2011-05-05 Thread Ross Peoples
I work a lot with modules, so I have a question. I have a 'z_import_modules.py' model that would look something like this: DEBUG = True module1 = local_import('module1', reload=DEBUG) module2 = local_import('module2', reload=DEBUG) module3 = local_import('module3', reload=DEBUG) obj1 = module1.O

[web2py] Re: some new cool stuff in trunk under testing

2011-05-05 Thread Ross Peoples
I made a typo in my second 'z_import_modules.py' model: obj1 = Object1() obj1 = Object1() Should be: obj1 = Object1() obj2 = Object2() obj3 = Object3() Sorry about that.

[web2py] Re: some new cool stuff in trunk under testing

2011-05-05 Thread Ross Peoples
Thanks for clearing that up. I'll start rewriting my modules and let you know how it all turns out.

[web2py] Re: represented fields and jqgrid

2011-05-06 Thread Ross Peoples
I had similar issues with computed fields. I don't know if this helps or not, but it looks like you are using member_status as a selection of hard coded options. This is what I do: db.member_statuses = { 1: 'Active', 2: 'Inactive', } db.define_table('auth_user_extended', Field('auth_user',

[web2py] Re: some new cool stuff in trunk under testing

2011-05-06 Thread Ross Peoples
I am still in the process of rewriting my modules and I've run into a problem. First, I noticed that auth is not part of current. Only cache, session, request, response, and T are a part of current. I have z_import_modules.py model that I used to use to import modules using local_import(). Howe

[web2py] Re: some new cool stuff in trunk under testing

2011-05-06 Thread Ross Peoples
Ignore the part about 'from gluon import current' not working in the models. Restarting the web2py server fixed the problem. I may have forgotten to do that after updating from trunk. But out of curiosity, is there a reason other model variables (auth, db, etc) are showing up in current?

Re: [web2py] Re: some new cool stuff in trunk under testing

2011-05-06 Thread Ross Peoples
That would be nice. Also might I suggest a way to import gluon.storage.Storage when doing 'from gluon import *'. I find myself using Storage a lot, so having that load as a part of 'from gluon import *' would be awesome.

[web2py] Re: Compile Error

2011-05-06 Thread Ross Peoples
I think you have an {{include 'file'}} somewhere in one of your templates, and it can't find the filename.

[web2py] Problem with Mail.Attachment

2011-05-06 Thread Ross Peoples
Updated web2py from trunk this morning. Something changed in tools.py in the last few days that caused the following code to fail: attachment = (Mail.Attachment(filename)) The error that results: File "/media/psf/Python/web2py/gluon/tools.py", line 139, in __init__ content_type = contenttyp

[web2py] Re: Problem with Mail.Attachment

2011-05-09 Thread Ross Peoples
Thanks Massimo!

[web2py] Re: sessions2trash.py improved

2011-05-09 Thread Ross Peoples
Glad to see this made it into the trunk!

Re: [web2py] Re: some new cool stuff in trunk under testing

2011-05-09 Thread Ross Peoples
Just wanted to give an update: I moved one of my projects with about 10 modules over to the new import method, and so far it's working perfectly. I should also mention that the new method has greatly simplified the way I write modules. I used to have a z_import_modules.py model that should run

[web2py] Re: strange problem connecting to the database - help!

2011-05-09 Thread Ross Peoples
You should also make sure your pg_hba.conf is set up to accept remote connections and that your user account can log in from remote connections. I once had a development PostgreSQL server that had its config reverted to factory settings one day for no apparent reason. I banged my head against t

[web2py] Re: Audit for all tables, independent of CRUD; and transaction rollback.

2011-05-09 Thread Ross Peoples
I don't know if there would be a good way to do this with any DAL/ORM. The best and most reliable way to handle this (and I hate to say it) might be using triggers in your database server. So that any change would trigger an audit action by the SQL server, which would write the change to an audi

[web2py] Breaking up plugin_wiki

2011-05-10 Thread Ross Peoples
I think I saw it mentioned here before, but are there any plans to break up plugin_wiki into smaller plugins? There are some individual plugins inside plugin_wiki that are really nice on their own, and it's kind of shame that you'd have to use the entire package just to use one or two of the plu

[web2py] Re: web2py with Eclipse

2011-05-10 Thread Ross Peoples
The only thing that had really worked for me in the past was doing the if 0: trick: if 0: from gluon.dal import DAL from gluon.tools import Auth db = DAL() auth = Auth() The code won't actually get executed, it's just there to give Eclipse and other IDE's some direction. If thi

[web2py] Protect or Encrypt Source Code

2011-05-10 Thread Ross Peoples
I know this question has been asked before and I have been doing research on the matter for a while now. I am writing an application that has some proprietary stuff in it, and the plan is to sell the compiled w2p file. I know that the pyc files can be decompiled. A quick trip to http://www.depy

[web2py] Re: Protect or Encrypt Source Code

2011-05-10 Thread Ross Peoples
What matters is that the code is not easily decompiled, and if it is, then almost impossible to read or figure out what the code is doing. The idea is to protect some or all of the code from being stolen, basically. I just used depython.net as an example of how easy it is to get an almost perfec

[web2py] Re: Why continue to use this obscure phrase 'enterprise'?

2011-05-11 Thread Ross Peoples
In the spirit of not messing around with "half baked, unstable, hard to maintain, constantly breaking backward compatibility, glued frameworks": web2py - For serious developers web2py - Stop playing, start producing web2py - Upgrade your development web2py - Development for the professionals Th

[web2py] Re: Protect or Encrypt Source Code

2011-05-11 Thread Ross Peoples
>From the responses I've gotten here, and research elsewhere, I think there are only two real options: 1. Obfuscate and compile 2. Use Cython to turn Python code files into C modules. Other option could be to somehow use cx_Freeze or similar tool to wrap the entire web2py installation. However,

[web2py] Re: How to limit the number of database objects in DAL

2011-05-11 Thread Ross Peoples
I can't say I've ever really tried this, but maybe you could do something like this in your model: db.pineapple_insert(**kwargs): if db(db.pineapple.id > 0).count() >= 3: raise Exception('There are already 3 pineapples in this table.') else: db.pineapple.insert(**kwargs)

[web2py] Re: How to limit the number of database objects in DAL

2011-05-11 Thread Ross Peoples
I've really gotta start proofreading my responses. This is a better version that the one I just gave (goes at the bottom of the model): def pineapple_insert(**kwargs): if db(db.pineapple.owner == auth.user.id).count() >= 3: raise Exception('There are already 3 pineapples for this user

[web2py] Re: IS_IN_DB ability to sort selections?

2011-05-11 Thread Ross Peoples
On Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:43:55 AM UTC-5, mdipierro wrote: > > in trunk now... IS_IN_DB(orderby=) I realize that this thread is like 2.5 years old, but this should be in the book. I was looking for this functionality and found it here.

Re: [web2py] Re: I found this poll

2011-05-13 Thread Ross Peoples
Does web2py support Python 3?

Re: [web2py] Re: Gigya - Janrain alternative

2011-05-13 Thread Ross Peoples
$15,000?!?!? They are freaking insane. Most web sites prolly don't even pull that in profit a yearall just to login to a site with a Facebook/Twitter account? Web2py should prolly have its own auth method in that case.

[web2py] New Import Method Incompatible with Python 2.4

2011-05-13 Thread Ross Peoples
I just updated web2py to the trunk version on a server running Python 2.4.4 and it immediately crashed with an error because of the try/except/finally usage in the new custom_import.py file. This is easy to fix though. Instead of using: try: # code except: # code finally: # code You

[web2py] Re: New Import Method Incompatible with Python 2.4

2011-05-13 Thread Ross Peoples
I think I figured out how to make it work, but I don't know if it breaks anything. In conjunction with the change above, I also did this: Changed custom_import.py line 49 from: return self.std_python_importer(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level) To this: if sys.version_info[:2] == (2, 4):

[web2py] Discussion: Python 2.4 Support

2011-05-13 Thread Ross Peoples
I am developing a web2py app that uses a third party python module that only works on Python 2.4.4. Basically, we are using we2py as a front end for an API. Since recently updating to trunk, I noticed that several things didn't seem to work anymore. I submitted patches to Massimo and he told me

[web2py] Re: Discussion: Python 2.4 Support

2011-05-14 Thread Ross Peoples
The problem is that our app is using an API as a frontend to a third party application. The Python API available to talk to this product only works in Python 2.4.4. I have been successfully using Web2py 1.95.1 on Python 2.4.4 without any issues. It was only after I updated to the trunk version t

Re: [web2py] Re: Discussion: Python 2.4 Support

2011-05-14 Thread Ross Peoples
I don't suppose there's a way to run this module under Python 2.4.4 and run web2py under 2.5 is there? The API is bytecompiled and has to run 2.4.4 (and actually the API installs it own custom Python 2.4.4 instance). Is there any way to do this? This would solve the web2py dependence on Python 2

Re: [web2py] Re: Discussion: Python 2.4 Support

2011-05-14 Thread Ross Peoples
I spent about 45 minutes hashing this out over the phone and I think the best solution (at least for our needs) is to make a lightweight JSON-RPC server that talks directly with the third-party API running in Python 2.4.4. Then we can run web2py on whatever Python version we want and just make

Re: [web2py] Re: Discussion: Python 2.4 Support

2011-05-14 Thread Ross Peoples
I had thought about that and just using the builtin Rocket server to host the service. That might be the best way to go.

Re: [web2py] Re: Discussion: Python 2.4 Support

2011-05-14 Thread Ross Peoples
Just to give an update, I have successfully split this off into two web2py instances: one running under Python 2.4.4 that only acts as a JSON-RPC server, and a second web2py instance running on 2.6.1 that is using the trunk version of web2py. After banging my head against a wall with regards to

[web2py] Re: New importer in trunk

2011-05-16 Thread Ross Peoples
I haven't actually tried this yet, but couldn't you do something like this to turn it off/on: import gluon custom_import custom_import.DEBUG = False

[web2py] Re: New importer in trunk

2011-05-16 Thread Ross Peoples
I was thinking about setting this in a db.py file or something to indicate that the app in in debug mode. Then before deploying, setting this to false. Also allowing controllers, modules, etc to access the value of this might be beneficial. It could be a master 'debug' switch for an entire appli

[web2py] Re: recommendations for production system?

2011-05-18 Thread Ross Peoples
On a quick side note, you are not supposed to use Webmin with Ubuntu. It is mentioned in several places that it breaks Debian-based systems. Ubutnu has been pushing eBox (now Zentyal) which is more for setting up a small business infrastructure than managing a web server. As is mentioned, manag

[web2py] Re: recommendations for production system?

2011-05-18 Thread Ross Peoples
This is the original source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebMin and here's a bug report about it: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2873 These two are a bit old now, so I don't know if things have changed, but merely mentioning the word webmin in the Ubuntu forums a cou

[web2py] Re: Changing columns for TEXTAREA

2011-05-18 Thread Ross Peoples
Have you checked the base.css file for textarea references?

Re: [web2py] Re: New Exception in Trunk.

2011-05-18 Thread Ross Peoples
Did you subclass the Auth class or something? And more importantly, did you restart your web2py server after updating from trunk?

[web2py] Re: Post Data Obfuscation

2011-05-18 Thread Ross Peoples
I would also have to say that SSL is an industry standard, even by government and payment card processing standards. I have to keep a Ubuntu web server up to the latest PCI (payment card industry) tests since we process credit cards internally. The test runs quarterly and emails me a report of

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