[web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-26 Thread mdipierro
ERRATA (thanks jonathan) It is NOW optional session.connect(request,response,check_client=True) to enable the check. On Nov 26, 10:58 am, Jonathan Lundell wrote: > On Nov 26, 2010, at 8:33 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > > > > It is not optional > > "now optional"? > > > > > session.connect(request,re

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-26 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Nov 26, 2010, at 8:33 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > It is not optional "now optional"? > > session.connect(request,response,check_client=True) to enable the > check. > > On Nov 26, 3:53 am, selecta wrote: >> still it would be nice to have this optional >> >> On Nov 26, 5:06 am, mdipierro wrot

[web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-26 Thread mdipierro
It is not optional session.connect(request,response,check_client=True) to enable the check. On Nov 26, 3:53 am, selecta wrote: > still it would be nice to have this optional > > On Nov 26, 5:06 am, mdipierro wrote: > > > True. This is a counterindication. > > > On Nov 25, 7:14 pm, Phyo Arkar w

[web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-26 Thread selecta
still it would be nice to have this optional On Nov 26, 5:06 am, mdipierro wrote: > True. This is a counterindication. > > On Nov 25, 7:14 pm, Phyo Arkar wrote: > > > > > Most of them time i use a Remote VPN to change my IP and to access > > Unrestricted Internet. > > Coz internet here is very r

[web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread mdipierro
True. This is a counterindication. On Nov 25, 7:14 pm, Phyo Arkar wrote: > Most of them time i use a Remote VPN to change my IP and to access > Unrestricted Internet. > Coz internet here is very restrictive, (so restrictive that even google > Blogger is banned lol) . > > And only about 5 outgoing

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Phyo Arkar
My country (Burma) ISP alos changes outgoing IP regularly. it have about 5 ips for me. On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Niphlod wrote: > still there are no counter-indication > a session sticks to one single ip. > users of LAN (me and my brother) "hidden" by NAT, users of large WANs > like F

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Phyo Arkar
Even mac address can be captured by a java applet. Self signed java applet can do the trick. It can raised to User's security level , and can run system commands if he is Administrator level or root. On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:05 PM, mdipierro wrote: > web2py cannot access the MAC address of the

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Phyo Arkar
stealing cookie do not need to sniff session at all. Just a good ole XSS will work. On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:53 AM, guruyaya wrote: > If I can sniff the traffic, I must have access to the router that

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Phyo Arkar
Most of them time i use a Remote VPN to change my IP and to access Unrestricted Internet. Coz internet here is very restrictive, (so restrictive that even google Blogger is banned lol) . And only about 5 outgoing ips thats goes out of this country. VPN sometimes loose connection and drops me back

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Kuba Kucharski
@michele yeap, IP-based security sucks.

[web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread guruyaya
I think you missed on this paticular scenerio. If I can sniff the traffic, I must have access to the router that holds the data. That means, I'm on a place in the routing table, that gets this packet, and that means I can make my IP be the same as the user in the far end of the communication. So, i

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Michele Comitini
So security is fake in large NATted networks? 2010/11/25 Niphlod : > still there are no counter-indication > a session sticks to one single ip. > users of LAN (me and my brother) "hidden" by NAT, users of large WANs > like Fastweb in Italy (and quite everyone in China, I believe) show > the

[web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Niphlod
still there are no counter-indication a session sticks to one single ip. users of LAN (me and my brother) "hidden" by NAT, users of large WANs like Fastweb in Italy (and quite everyone in China, I believe) show themself to the webserver with the same IP address in the same session. As long as w

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Kuba Kucharski
@massimo this sounds good, although stealing creditentials/intercepting communication is most probable in the networks hidden over NAT - hence in this case it will not work. -- Kuba

Re: [web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread Kuba Kucharski
If you have a router, then your machine's MAC address will go no further than that. Your router's MAC address will show up in packets sent further upstream, until that too is replaced by the MAC address of the next device - likely either your modem or your ISP's router. So your MAC address doesn't

[web2py] Re: one more security feature in trunk

2010-11-25 Thread mdipierro
web2py cannot access the MAC address of the requester. The web server does not provide the information. The web server may not have the information itself, depending on the OS. capturing the ethernet header requires more privileges that the web server has. On Nov 25, 10:21 am, Richard Vézina wrot