Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Michael MacFadden
See comments inline. On 6/24/13 1:06 PM, "Joseph Gentle" wrote: >I want to start the discussion around what OT algorithms to use. This >is going to get technical. This is not a bug. Please ask simple but >tangential questions (like how does wave's current crypto system >work?) in a new thread in

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Joseph Gentle
Yep, probably right. - sounds good. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Michael MacFadden wrote: > I will respond to this section by section in a bit. > > However my general comment is that there is a lot to digest here and I think > we need to start putting this stuff in a wiki page(s). I think it

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Michael MacFadden
I will respond to this section by section in a bit. However my general comment is that there is a lot to digest here and I think we need to start putting this stuff in a wiki page(s). I think it will get buried here. I think we might need individual pages on each protocol idea. And the a pro/c

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Ali Lown wrote: >> 1. CRDTs (like Logoot[1]) >> 2. 'Classical' OT using vector clocks for versioning. >> 3. The OT system [...] similar to classical OT, except using git style >> version hashes. > > A quick look at Logoot's paper says that deletion is not generally

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Ali Lown
> 1. CRDTs (like Logoot[1]) > 2. 'Classical' OT using vector clocks for versioning. > 3. The OT system [...] similar to classical OT, except using git style > version hashes. A quick look at Logoot's paper says that deletion is not generally possible with CRDTs (p5 section 4) without either a) Tom

Re: Review Request: Translations to German and Chinese

2013-06-24 Thread Ali Lown
> On June 24, 2013, 5:14 p.m., Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado wrote: > > If there isn't any comment, I'll commit this in short. Thanks. It looks ok, but I can't read either language so have to just assume the translations are correct... - Ali

Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Joseph Gentle
I want to start the discussion around what OT algorithms to use. This is going to get technical. This is not a bug. Please ask simple but tangential questions (like how does wave's current crypto system work?) in a new thread instead of this one. Requirements: - Arbitrary peers can syncronize data

Re: Review Request: Translations to German and Chinese

2013-06-24 Thread Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11948/#review22330 --- If there isn't any comment, I'll commit this in short. Thanks. - Vi

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Wave Sub Committees

2013-06-24 Thread John Blossom
It's perhaps superficial, but if you call these "working groups" then perhaps that takes away some of the hoop-jumping perception. These are sub-communities which try to attract people who can help to solve specific problems. I like the scheme. On Joseph's point 1a, I think that it would be accept