Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The "Whipmag" All-Magnet Motor, saga

> From Terrry: > > > The consensus at the time was it was driven with a > > compressed air nozzle. Al spun the small gear several times before he was able to get the device to start. Could the 'failed' attempts have been a cover for winding a spring? The thing that bugged me about the whipmag sa

Re: [Vo]:Wet Steam: Energy required disperse and suspend small droplets in the vapor state

> > > On 11-08-02 06:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > > > > I now conclude that Rossi is a fraud. Rossi is probably certain that his device will produce miraculous amounts of power, but he needs to get just a few small engineering details right before it does, and he is sure he can do it by O

[Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion have parted ways?

Maybe I missed it, but I have not seen any citation for Jones Beene's statement. Any evidence for it?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion have parted ways?

Thanks

Re: [Vo]:Scoop of the last 22 years

> Luckily Daniele did not post that Nasa paper, where they > speculated that LENR may have contributed for the WTC collapse > in 9/11. I thought it was global warming.

Re: [Vo]:Steorn's CEO Posts Overunity Heater Video

> http://pesn.com/2011/10/05/9501927_Steorn_CEO_Posts_Overunity_Heater_Video/ You have to admire the tenacity of Steorn: if one thing fails, they try another.

[Vo]:Oct 6 Test

> > 1666 ml/s should be 166.7 ml/s but it still results in 3.5 kW This was 1/50 of the 1MW assembly, so it should be putting out 20kw. 3.5kw is a disappointment. And so is the fact that it ran for only 4 hours, which may not rule out a chemical reaction. If that is the best Rossi can do I guess

Re: [Vo]:Oct 6 Test

> Hi, > > On 6-10-2011 22:32, Man on Bridges wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 6-10-2011 22:30, vorl bek wrote: > >>> 1666 ml/s should be 166.7 ml/s but it still results in 3.5 kW > >> This was 1/50 of the 1MW assembly, so it should be putting out >

Re: [Vo]:Oct 6 Test

> vorl bek wrote: > > > > This was 1/50 of the 1MW assembly, so it should be putting out > > 20kw. 3.5kw is a disappointment. > > > > In what universe is that a "disappointment"? If any other cold > fusion test have produced 50.4 MJ in four hou

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

> Maybe the secret source was charging a battery for around 4 > hours with an energy above 2KW coupled with some other kind of > auxiliary battery... This test was almost as ludicrous as the Steorn waterways test. There, they kept things running by periodically swapping out the devices, presumably

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

> > I would like to point out that if it were a battery, then it > would have been hidden and pre-charged before anyone came into > the room. There would be no need to charge it up in front of > everyone then. I guess I should have referred to it as a 'battery'. That cylinder of nickel powder cou

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi 6 Oct Experiment Data - Preliminary Data Analysis

> The electric heating power is apparently used to suppress the > reaction, not to enhance it. I have never heard of any material acting that way. If heat from the electric heater is used to ignite the nickel, how would continuing to heat it after it ignites suppress the reaction? And how would n

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi 6 Oct Experiment Data - Preliminary Data Analysis

> vorl bek wrote: > > > > > The electric heating power is apparently used to suppress the > > > reaction, not to enhance it. > > > > I have never heard of any material acting that way. If heat > > from the electric heater is used to ignite the nick

Re: [Vo]:"The Newspaper Whores"and Cold Fusion

> Greetings Vortex, > > Yes, the Newspapers have been real whores in their treatment of > Cold Fusion /Fleischmannn and Pons et al, I can not see that newspapers have been derelict in their reporting duty when it comes to cold fusion. There must be hundreds of crackpots and conmen out there who a

Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions

> Please feel free to write your prediction about the Oct 28 1MW > Rossi test. ** Please include a 0 to 100 prediction ** > 0 is a scam is exposed, 25 is an unexposed scam, below 50 is > failure, and 100 is commercially viable no doubt LENR power. I'll go with the prediction of 0 as stated on the

[Vo]:How fast was the steam moving?

A while back, somebody here did a rough calculation that, given the size of the outlet in the 1mw ecat, steam would have to be flying out of it at greater than the speed of sound if it were really putting out 1mw. Since there were two outlets from the look of it, that means the steam would move at

Re: [Vo]:My involvement with Mr. Krivit as a former BoD - Part 2 of 3

> What can Krivit do if it turns out that Rossi's > controversial work is determined to be authentic? Surely he would blame Rossi: "It is a pity that Rossi did not conduct proper tests and release the data earlier; think of all the starving and thirsting Africans and others who could have been s

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1MW : Why is the energy hidden behind pressboard?

> There is no point to listing all the ways > they might have cheated. I thought he pointed out evidence that they DID cheat, i.e. not enough heat from the radiator corral.

Re: [Vo]:Fox News report on Rossi

> Kinda stupid. See: > > http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/02/andrea-rossi-italian-cold-fusion-plant/ Why is it stupid? It sounds like a standard mainstream (and you can not get more mainstream than Fox News) gee-whiz science story that the man in the street can get excited about. Indeed, it

Re: [Vo]:Mars Transport System

> I've seen some tantalizing photographic evidence that might > just might show fossil evidence, of low life forms that had > lived in the water and mud when Mars was still a wet planet. My slight understanding is that Mars does not have a high enough gravity to retain enough air for a very s

Re: [Vo]:How to post this on Krivit's Forum? Some Thoughts about Rossi.

> Hi, > > as many might have noticed I have changed sides and now want to > post on Krivits forum. > This will reduce traffic here. ;-) > I did however not find a way to post, no thread has a reply box > like in other forums. > How is this done? I don't know, but you could post on ecatnews.com.

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Peter Heckert > wrote: > > > I have delivered a perfect explanation how  to fake the energy > > (sucking water out by vacuum and a hidden switch that > > activates the heater when nobody watches the power) and you > > consistently ignore it or you make up weak ex

Re: [Vo]:Some thoughts about Rossi's personality

> > You have got to be kidding- I was. But anything Rossi shows will be objected to, and holes will be picked in it, and they should be. He could long ago have had independent labs test a small ecat; why didn't he? He comes across as someone who is deluded or is a conman.

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

> Rossi Source for Fox and MSNBC: Obama Teleported to Mars > > > I am beginning to like Krivit; that one was pretty funny. And he had the brains and initiative to make the FOIA request to

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

> Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: > > One of the reasons that Rossi may not wish to run a very long > test is that > > I suspect that HE is the control mechanism. When it is run > > in self-sustaining mode, after some period it will need to be > > briefly reheated to stabilize the mode. If it was not

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

> Vorl Bek wrote: > > >> This is what Rossi has said on many occasions. He says he > >> cannot leave the thing, especially in self-sustaining mode. > > The idea that Rossi would do an unconvincing demo because he > > needed to empty his bladder or get so

[Vo]:Let Rossi Be Rossi?

> I have had it with Mary Yugo. I think Mary Yugo is a good addition to this list. Mary Yugo's skepticism is better than excusing Rossi's odd behaviour on the grounds that he must be an eccentric genius. Rossi seems like a scammer to me. Of course, I hope he really has come up with a wonder-work

Re: [Vo]: Rossi Deserves Our Gratitude

> > The fact that he has been able to do this despite rabid > opposition and countless baseless accusations by people like you > makes the accomplishment all the more remarkable. I can't see why suggesting that Rossi let an independent lab test his device is 'rabid opposition and countless basele

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

Berke Durak wrote: > Theory 1. > > At some point Rossi decided to attempt a large scam. He somehow > talked Focardi and some others into this. Focardi said something > like: "I'm tired of being a poor Italian university professor. > Let's make money! How about we rob a bank?" Rossi answered,

Re: [Vo]:its been great

> Sorry if anyone is upset. I might have been a bit prolific at > posting but it was mostly in response to responses. What shall > I do? Avoid responding to responses? Keep posting. The hothouse flowers around here who are bruised by what you say can use their killfiles.

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

> Mary Yugo wrote: > > > But I don't like to try to predict what may happen. > > Oh come now. You have incessantly predicted what would happen! > Again, and again you have predicted that Rossi is a scammer who > will be caught. My recollection is that she has always said that he *acts* like a s

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi Working with Domenico Fioravanti on Electrical Power from E-Cat

Aussie Guy quotes Rossi: > > “Actually, we have found a breakthrough with a primary fluid > with which the reactors remain stable when we make steam at 450 > Celsius. Since lead melts at 327 Celsius, is there some lead alloy that would keep it solid at 450?

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi Working with Domenico Fioravanti on Electrical Power from E-Cat

Berke Durak wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, vorl bek > wrote: > > Since lead melts at 327 Celsius, is there some lead alloy that > > would keep it solid at 450? > > What's wrong with tungsten? You tell me.

Re: [Vo]:To Patent or Not Patent Natural law. That is the question.

> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Mary Yugo > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Harry Veeder > > wrote: > > What do you think about patenting human tissue without > > compensating the former owner?  For example HeLa cells? > > > > I don't know anything about the subject, but I

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Mary Yugo > wrote: > > > So Steorn were not true scammers? > > No, just stupid. And usually drunk. What is it so far ~16 million? Not bad for a bunch of stupid drunks.

Re: [Vo]:Ni producer

> not so false. > according to Rossi's E-cat figures, it would consume 25% of > annual Ni production to produce the annual energy. According to one of the big conspiracy sites the e-cat's core is literally a roll of US nickels (plus the catalyst).

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

> There are scientists that report much better results: > http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/204israel.html > citation: > - Run #64b gave 1500% excess heat over a duration of 80 hours > with a total excess energy of 4.6 Megajoules > > So, why do they all stare at Rossi and his poor COP a

Re: [Vo]:What is so special abbout Rossi?

> The circus is the continual refusal by deniers that call over 1 > year of published peer reviewed (Levi, Kullander, Celani, etc) > test data rubbish when it is the deniers that are making up > rubbish claims. You want science? Wait until Rossi sells me a > E-Cat and you can give it your all, tha

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

> > As I said, most cold fusion research is done on a shoestring, > tucked away in a corner were the people in charge will not > notice it. You have to keep a low profile in this business. So > please do not write letters to the Navy demanding this be > allowed. You will only make things worse. I

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

> It remains to be seen > whether Rossi's demonstrations and sales will convince the wider > world. How can they not? The October 28 customer has had the 50 e-cats for 6 weeks. I can hear the dialogue now: "So how's it going with the e-cats, Manny?" "The sons-of-guns have been running for six w

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > > > Gene went from a top academic career to working in a > > warehouse at night to feed his family. > > > > He was a science writer. Respectable, yes. Top academic career, > no. > > > > > > > Fleischmann and Pons had a terrible time.

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

Jed Rothwell wrote: > > You did not know him. You did not spend weeks at his house, as I > did. You do know what he accomplished, or what difficulties he > faced. So I suggest you stop making ignorant assertions about > him. I think you have Cude killfiled, or you would know that he wrote what y

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

Jed Rothwell wrote: > I do have him killfiled. For my peace of mind. > > I apologize if I mixed you up with him. I wasn't paying much > attention to the top of the message, or who wrote it. Sorry > about that. That's OK. To the degree I can follow this, I agree with him rather than you or the ot

Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources

> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Vorl Bek > wrote: > > > That's OK. To the degree I can follow this, I agree with him > > rather than you or the other optimists here. > > Then what is the reason for your presence on this list? To turn > optimism into pessi

Re: [Vo]:CALL FOR REDIRECT OF SOME TOPICS OR DISCUSSIONS TO VORTEX-B

> I presume this is in reference to vortex-b. Unfortunately, > vortex-b is set up as a no-holds bar forum where anything goes. > Long ago I stopped subscribing to "b" because what goes on there > disgusts me. Anybody can join "b" and not fear being removed > simply because there are no rules. It'

Re: [Vo]:CALL FOR REDIRECT OF SOME TOPICS OR DISCUSSIONS TO VORTEX-B

> > It's called the "scorched earth" syndrome. Things got so bad that > most, myself included, simply subscribed out of "b". I suspect > the trolls are still however. They are still subscribed to "b", > abiding their time, waiting to pounce. If everybody feels that way, 'b' will never be used. It

Re: [Vo]:POLITICAL What is the best way to advocate?

Jed Rothwell says: > Do you think OPEC and Big Coal will be > thrilled? You think they will roll over and play dead? They will > demand that it be banned. And when the Chinese and Japanese and everybody with a brain starts churning out ecats, will Big Coal knock on their door and demand that they

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

MaryYugo Wrote: > > Want respect, not mention tons of fame and fortune? Close the > loop and make them self running except for (rare) refueling. > You'd be the first. That's for sure. I wonder why the people AG bought the gadgets from did not close the loop, or why the high school students who ma

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

> Vorl Bek wrote: > > > > > Nobody ever closes the loop. > > > > That is incorrect. Many people have closed the loop, starting > with Fleischmann and Pons. In cold fusion jargon, "closing the > loop" is called running in "heat after death

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

In ecatnews.com http://ecatnews.com/?p=1727, Paul Story commented: [The idea that we have two fraudulant entities outbidding each other in an open exchange of illusionary pricing – shouting at each other from opposite sides of the Atlantic Ocean – is too bizarre to be given space except in recogni

Re: [Vo]:Fraud Warning msg posted at Defkalion, May 7

> > > On 11-05-09 12:49 AM, Drowning Trout wrote: > > What a waste of valuable domain names. Please don't confuse my > > site e-cat dot us/ as a scam or phishing > > site. > > Looks like a harmless forum about the e-cat. Nobody but Trout has posted so far.

Re: [Vo]:Fraud Warning msg posted at Defkalion, May 7

armless. > > On 11-05-09 08:56 AM, vorl bek wrote: > >> > >> On 11-05-09 12:49 AM, Drowning Trout wrote: > >>> What a waste of valuable domain names. Please don't confuse > >>> my site e-cat dot us as a scam or phishing > >>> site. &

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's U.S. partner revealed in NyTeknik

> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jones Beene > wrote: > > > greed, greed, greed… is Gordon Gekko really correct that it > > ‘greed is good’? > > Hell, yes. I already bought ampenerego.us (someone beat me to > com org etc); but, .biz is still available if you want it, Jones. Ampenegro will be

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

Joshua Cude says: > > The power is turned on at 1250 W at time zero. Then at 29 > minutes (more than a few), the temperature reaches boiling point > (101C). At 30 minutes, one minute after boiling begins, the > power is reduced to 400 W. But oops, they jumped the gun. The > reactor probably produc

Re: [Vo]:Blondlot on observing N-rays with the naked eye.

> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Mark Iverson > wrote: > > > > It is widely known that the 'rod' cells in the retina, which > > are responsible for seeing in low light levels, > > Indeed, a single photon can cause a rod cell to fire. I read in some magazine article that in a test, a flaring ma

Re: [Vo]:New private E-Cat test with no input energy

> How many reactions, which produce heat, and which may produce > runaway heat, can be quenched by ... *heating them up* ? > > I would call that another big red flag. > I hope this thing is not a fake; I am just barely over the trauma of the Steorn debacle.

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat vs. Water Heater for coffee/tea...

> but I think the jury > is still out as to whether we are witnessing what is claimed, or > human error, or fraud. -Mark The discussion about the steam from the first demo may be interesting, but I keep remembering Joshu Cude's remarks about the video display of the power input that was shown duri

Re: [Vo]:Crowdfunding and cold fusion

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:14:17 -0400 hyuk...@asia.com wrote: > Def: Ad Nauseum = Jojo > > Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy > > Jojo Jaro > Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:48:28 -0700 > > Alan, the link is interesting and if you are suggesting that I should take > this

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:21:06 -0400 ChemE Stewart wrote: > > I am not sure, but appears to me that the circles in the attached photos > might be showing us "Cold Fusion". Maybe they were created by drunken > englishmen, maybe not. They were probably created by drunken physicists.

[Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

It looks like Aliens (interstellar types) favour Romney for President. http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/romney-temp/

Re: [Vo]:cause of hurracane

It's too bad Long John Nebel is no longer with us; this would have been perfect for his show. On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:49:33 -0400 ChemE Stewart wrote: > Well Frank, here is why Sandy happened... > > The low pressure system that Sandy "ran into" was actually the low pressure > trough/contrail she

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:09:13 +0200 Esa Ruoho wrote: > Anyone else object to posts like the one below? I do not. It is always good for Enthusiasts to be cautioned about how they spend their Money, lest, in an Enthusiastick Fit, they spend it Foolishly.

Re: [Vo]:Michio Kaku: One solar flare could bring many Fukushimas

On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:10:07 -0500 (EST) pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: > > > Preventing Armageddon Would Cost Only $100 Million > … But Congress Is Too Thick to Approve the Fix > > http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/11/preventing-armageddon-would-cost-only-100-million-but-congress-is-too-thic

Re: [Vo]:How bad is this news? Jed Rothwell

I seem to recall that Jojo has been called a 'bible fanatic' and worse. Do you expect him to quietly put up with that kind of insult? If you don't like what he says, killfile him, but don't call for his banning because of his less than gentlemanly language; it makes those who do sound like hypocri

Re: [Vo]:Giant potato just misses Earth

It sounds like one of Hannu Poropudas's Space Potatoes.

Re: [Vo]:Continued trolling by Jojo Jaro

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:33:25 -0600 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > My take on all of this… and I’m sure Jojo is listening in… I just realized that the email client I use, it's called Sylpheed, not only lets you killfile messages from a particular user, or a particular subject, but the da

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

I haven't seen any trolling here. What I have seen are opinions of one gentleman being depreciated, often with insult, whereupon he answers vigorously. If the people who do not like his opinions would ignore him, or reply politely, I don't think there would be a problem. I recently started to blo

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

Jed Rothwell wrote: > Amundsen > to reach the south pole. He was an excellent explorer, and very methodical. > He got there and back on schedule without undo risk. But the public never > felt good about him because his plan involved shooting dogs along the way, > and feeding them to other dogs.

Re: [Vo]: Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:54:14 -0600 "OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson" wrote: > From Vorl: > > I recently started to block everything from or about him so I do > > not see anything. > A sensible approach. As previously mentioned, I also block his posts. > But I also choose not to block the

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

I sent a reply to vortex-b The sig should have read: http://wattsupwiththat.com For a Better World, With Fewer Mouths To Feed - They will be worth more.

Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things

I think MY is doing a good job here. If it were not for her, Cude, and a few others, this place would see a frenzy of chicken-counting before the hatching takes place, at least when it comes to Rossi.

Re: [Vo]:UNSUBSRIBE

> Unsubscribeunsubscribeunsubscribe... > I've tried 4 times to get off this mailing list. > This is the fifth! It's like the Roach Motel - you can go in but you don't come out.

Re: [Vo]:Hank Mills: NASA, MIT, and the DOE have blood on their hands.

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > -- One of these individuals would have been the next > nuclear-armed H* > Is Hitler's name still so painful to contemplate that it can't be spelt out 68 years after the war ended? Maybe we should start writing S* and M** T** T*** as well.

Re: [Vo]:Interesting new video from ecat.com

> Andre, > > Question: > Is the container gone? > > Answer: > Yes. > > Can't be much simpler than that. Maybe the container in the video and picture is a demo, like the ones in car showrooms. The one the customer actually buys is the one from the lot or the one being manufactured that is shippe

Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg

What if AG is Greg Watson? Most of the posts to this list in regard to Rossi are dream-stuff anyway. Why ask for reality at this point? AG's stuff is entertaining; that should be enough for anybody here. If AG is accused of being Watson, he may stop posting and make this a poorer place.

Re: [Vo]:Greg Watson is VERY rude!

> Eff: > > Who cares? > > This is personal garbage. Please get it OFF VORTEX. > > Take your personal vendetta someplace else. > At least take it to vortexb. Grok is waiting.

[Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance

Wolf Fischer wrote: > there have been two different news lately: > The first one being that Ampenergo seemingly has gone "inactive" > (although I don't know what this exactly means, if this is even > the company which is related to Leonardo, how this would affect > Rossi, etc.): > http://ecatn

Re: [Vo]:Forum ?

> Hello > > Im following this group with great interest, im a e-cat > experimental device builder. > I have a question to the group, would you guys like a Forum > instead of discussing mail wise ? > I could get a new forum up and running in an hour or so, we can > set someone as moderator, or hav

Re: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele Passerini)

I have been reading Mary's stuff since the early Steorn days and if she is not a woman I will eat my hat.

Re: [Vo]:Sterling Allan / S-African Free Fuel Generator FFG trip

> From Daniel > > > Damn! HE  IS TOTALLY  INSANE  I CANNOT  STOP > >  LAUGHING HAHAHAHAHA! :D > > Sterling is simply behaving like an evangelist of a different > cloth. > > All evangelists want to spread the good news. > > Some more obnoxiously that others. ;-) Did Sterling speak i

Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens

> Ion-propulsion is highly inefficient, but because it produces > only a limited amount of power, the equivalence of a piece of > paper resting on your hand (please, whatever you do don't I have to killfile this guy. I guess he is trying to write in html, but it comes across as a 65-line r

Re: [Vo]:Test day in Greece time

Please take this to vortexb.

Re: [Vo]:defkalion eyewitness

> Interesting ... but I hope it isn't that Aussie Guy . > > Interesting comments a couple of posts down, too, concerning > Rossi and a report of the 1MW going unstable during the test. > > - Original Message - > > there is a guy 'woomera' over at Chris Martensons forum, who > > claims

Re: [Vo]:Future transportation with cold fusion and robots

> > They have human drivers so they are expensive. The drivers are > often surly... A slur such as 'surly' surely does not apply to the great majority of drivers.

Re: [Vo]:In the foodsteps of Jules Verne

> That does not seem to be issue. E&W do not mention it. The only > materials issue is space junk poking holes in the ribbons. Space > junk has to be cleaned up, and it could be with a multi-ribbon > space elevator. You would have to devote one ribbon to an > interceptor craft for several months.

Re: [Vo]:International Conference "The Atom Unexplored" - May 4th, 2012

> From Akira, > > > I forgot to add that all this information came from 22passi: > > http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/latomo-inesplorato-torino-4-maggio-2012.html > > Jones sez: > > > Fabulous cover-art image - reminiscent of a Serpinski fractal > > - Menger sponge. etc. Metaphorical to the Ca

Re: [Vo]:International Conference "The Atom Unexplored" - May 4th, 2012

> From Akira, > > > I forgot to add that all this information came from 22passi: > > http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/latomo-inesplorato-torino-4-maggio-2012.html > > Jones sez: > > > Fabulous cover-art image - reminiscent of a Serpinski fractal > > - Menger sponge. etc. Metaphorical to the Ca

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Analog Fan wrote: > How could anyone be surprised that there is negativity towards > Sterling's capers? > > As you pointed out, this is exactly the same as countless free > energy scams Sterling has been involved with. It's not science > or journali

Re: [Vo]:New image, and site

This reminds me of the Stephen King story about the fellow who had the ability to draw an image which, when looked at by its intended target, caused him to commit suicide a few days later. Of course, this is benign; maybe it could be developed from making someone's hand warm to making him more res

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

On Thu, 9 May 2013 14:20:42 -0700 "Kevin O'Malley" wrote: > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > > >> > > Again with the semantics. I don't really care what word you > > use. To me, both polywater and cold fusion are almost > > certainly bogus phenomena, ... > > > > > >

Re: [Vo]:MODERATOR: J. Cude, extensive Rule 2 violations

On Sat, 11 May 2013 17:53:29 -0500 Joshua Cude wrote: > > I'm not interested in an inaccessible (non-archived) list like vortex-b, so > I'll just slink away. I may post a few responses to Rothwell's latest > replies over on wavewatching.net/fringe if they tolerate it. > > Otherwise, adios. It's

Re: [Vo]:MODERATOR: J. Cude, extensive Rule 2 violations

On Sun, 12 May 2013 09:12:56 -0400 Jed Rothwell wrote: > If you think there is merit to a skeptical point of view, why don't you > write about it? I don't know very much about this business and I can not debate it, but I consider myself to be like a juror listening to the testimony of experts: I

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:46:34 -0700 "Andrew" wrote: > Thank you for being straightforward on both points. > > And now we definitively know that the cable itself is "secret". > > Of course, that will not bother the majority of people here. Move along, > nothing to see here. I thought that what

Re: [Vo]:Ethics of the E-Cat investigation put into question

On Wed, 29 May 2013 09:49:26 -0400 Jed Rothwell wrote: > Vorl Bek wrote: > > > Whether or not they have ruled it out, nobody in his right mind > > would let this single test convert him to a belief in lenr. > > Perhaps. But anyone in his right mind who looks at al

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 06:52:44 -0400 Ron Kita wrote: > Greeting Vortex-L > > Boring > http://www.lenrnews.eu/ Are you kidding? This blows Rossi out of the water. [quote] The good-news claim is that DGT can control their multi-stage dynamic process. We observed their fifth-generation apparatus

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 10:28:03 -0400 Jed Rothwell wrote: > Vorl Bek wrote: > > > > No crazy "apply more heat to make it stop" nonsense. > > > > Why is this nonsense? I don't have the eloquence to explain, but if you ask over at moletrap.co.uk, or wav

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 10:50:12 -0400 Jed Rothwell wrote: > Vorl Bek wrote: > > > > > > Why is this nonsense? > > > > I don't have the eloquence to explain, but if you ask over at > > moletrap.co.uk, or wavewatching.net/fringe, they can clear it up &

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion

The moletrap people are certainly, most of them, emotionally adolescent, self-congratulatory clowns, but they seem knowledgeable about this stuff, so even their sneering opinions might be worth considering. I am sure they would be as happy as you are to see lenr cars, hot-water heaters, furnaces,

Re: [Vo]:Fact checking: Did "Nature" (or others) publicly decide to reject all cold fusion papers?

On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:14:35 -0400 Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > > > A lie detector test should be a requirement of employment for their > > institution which asks the critical question: “Do you or have you ever > > opposed the idea of LENR to have ever put LENR at a disadvantage i

Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:35:47 -0500 "OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson" wrote: > Mr. Beaty, > > > > When I opened up my mail box this morning I was flooded with over 40 posted > messages from Joshua Cude. And it's only 7:10 AM in the morning. I know of > no one within the Vort Collective besi

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