Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-14 Thread Craig Haynie
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 16:20 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > It's also possible that cold fusion occurs in nature, and > through the > eons, the copper we see around us is the product of the same > reaction. > > What reaction is that? The reaction inside Rossi's rea

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Mary Yugo wrote: > Even then, as recently as 6 months ago, someone sank another > half million Euros in Steorn. I found that pretty amazing. I guess > there are always some people who are beyond help and don't > listen to reason. If this is the case and Steorn is a fraud, then those who have inv

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Rich Murray
No, neither Scott nor Marissa replied to my emails months ago re Rossi -- apparently their tea leaves were so dry re this claim that they floated right away into nanodust -- as the Knight said to Death in Bergman's The Seventh Seal, while they were playing chess for life or death (for the Knight...

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Rich Murray
uh, Zen doesn't exist either, while reports of my survival are premature... Ri ch a r ... On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > > Mary Yugo has competent, courteous company in her

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > Mary Yugo has competent, courteous company in her skepticism -- especially > Scott Little of earthtech.org in Austin, Texas, whose website displays an > excellent calorimeter and many careful attempts since about 1995 to > replicate CF experime

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Rich Murray
Mary Yugo has competent, courteous company in her skepticism -- especially Scott Little of earthtech.org in Austin, Texas, whose website displays an excellent calorimeter and many careful attempts since about 1995 to replicate CF experiments, including SPAWAR codeposition with D-Pd in a lithium ch

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Axil Axil
see http://www.new.ans.org/pubs/journals/fst/a_114 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > It's also possible that cold fusion occurs in nature, and through the >> eons, the copper we see around us is the product of the same reaction. >> > > What reaction is that? > > >

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Mary Yugo
It's also possible that cold fusion occurs in nature, and through the > eons, the copper we see around us is the product of the same reaction. > What reaction is that?

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Craig Haynie
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 10:22 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote: > > OK, thanks. I guess in Rossi's case you look for transmutation to > copper isotopes. However, the one time this was done, the copper from > the "ash" from Rossi's machine had the EXACT isotope ratios that are > found in nature. That would

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Mary Yugo
> > If you don't read the literature, you won't be able to tell apart what is > logical to what is illogical. I disagree. Rossi's claim is different from most of the others in cold fusion because it is so extravagant -- I mean come on! A megawatt for six months on a handful of inexpensive fuel?

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
If you don't read the literature, you won't be able to tell apart what is logical to what is illogical. Besides, I am not a native speaker and gmail's dictionary offered a wrong correction. 2011/11/13 Mary Yugo > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> No time to study the lit

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Esa Ruoho
A few years ago you picked Steorn as your favourite hobby horse. Now you've picked Rossi. What's the connection? They get a lot of publicity and people are interested in them. So you manifest yourself in whichever place strikes your whimsy, pour forth from the abundance within your soul and try you

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > No time to study the literature but time to nagger and flood forums all > day with messages. > I have time to study about Rossi and directly related writings. I don't have time to read the thousands of seemingly inconclusive and difficult p

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
No time to study the literature but time to nagger and flood forums all day with messages. 2011/11/13 Mary Yugo > This test will not work. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and it seldom produces radiation. I have told you that before. If you do not believe me, please review the l

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Mary Yugo
> > This test will not work. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and it >>> seldom produces radiation. I have told you that before. If you do not >>> believe me, please review the literature on your own. >>> >> >> Well that's inconvenient, isn't it? So we just look for anomalous heat >> and noth

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Esa Ruoho
Keeping "feet on fire" is a good way of wasting valuable research and development time. Would you like to do your work while some know-it-all smart alec is lobbing rocks at your skull? You justify your actions by saying it was a scam and total trash, by your estimate. Now you give the usual (the e

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > mary yugo appeared on the Steorn forums and has never been supportive of > any exotic energy technology developer, company or anything. > this pseudonym is just a hater. > Most people now believe that Steorn was a scam. Are you suggesting I sh

Re: [Vo]:People who will not do their homework do not deserve a response

2011-11-13 Thread Esa Ruoho
mary yugo appeared on the Steorn forums and has never been supportive of any exotic energy technology developer, company or anything. this pseudonym is just a hater. On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I have had it with Mary Yugo. She wrote: >