Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Vibrator, your posting rights at the Trap have been restored. On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:37 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > I sent the Sim over to two of my MEs. They might have questions. > Meanwhile, Moletrap denies they banned you. The fuckwit banner is actually > a badge of honor for having stimu

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

I sent the Sim over to two of my MEs. They might have questions. Meanwhile, Moletrap denies they banned you. The fuckwit banner is actually a badge of honor for having stimulated the group. There's a question there (orbosansmags) about an error msg. from the Sim. You can see it and try to answer

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:08 PM Vibrator ! wrote: > > Shame, i was learning so much, right up until they banned me.. > They banned you? I've never seen anyone banned there. What do you mean you can't post? Harrumph. I'll look into this.

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Moletrap's great - i've already found out that momentum ISN'T conserved - there's actually a time delay between a change in MoI and the resulting change in velocity! Did you know that? I certainly didn't! So net system momentum just comes and goes, as a function of time! Furthermore, measuring

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Yeah, no, sorry, me and Frank don't really follow eachother's stuff, much (hi Frank!) - it actually began on the BWF - i'm, uhh, trying to 'elevate' it from there, however - smashing bunch that they are.. One member - Fletcher - understands work / energy equivalence, multiplying forces and displa

RE: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

The discussion of a violation of the conservation of energy or angular momentum perked up my curiosity. I have searched many times for a trick that gets around the rules to no avail. So, I decided to simulate a simple yet elegant model system that I think might be of interest to the group. My

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

On my 80th birth my children has some packs of cards made with the pictures of my 54 grandchildren. I don't bother to keep track of the number of great grandchildren because it keeps changing. 😊 The 88 relates to Rommel's anti-aircraft gun. which was so effective in the western desert.

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Good to hear from you, Frank. Is the '88' in your email address your current age of your number of grandchildren? I'll never catch up with only 4 but they have produced 3 great grandchildren. Last I heard, McCarthy was getting into Bitcoin. Don't know if he was a miner or just a trader. Cheers

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Wrong. I fear I could never understand Vibrator. You are right about Not the Steorn Forum. Cynics all, apart from Tim I wonder how Shawn (the real spelling on his birth certificate according to the Alesbury registrar) is getting on. On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 13:37, Terry Blanton wrote: > > > On Wed

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 7:06 AM Vibrator ! wrote: > > > Sorry to bump my own thread, bad form.. > Some suggestions: Look up Frank Grimer. He hangs out at the Besseler Wheel forum: https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/ and will be delighted to hear of your discovery. and Contact the manufacture

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Sorry to bump my own thread, bad form.. only i'm really kind of itching for any progress here (at wits end!).. It's a big ask, i know - the sims may look a bit mysterious but it's really extremely simple: - The system energy doubles. The most obvious reason would seem to be work done by the mot

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Hi John, and thank you so much for taking an interest! The input energy to the motors is being logged in terms of torque vs angle. This integral has also been checked against torque * angular vel * time - not shown in the sims to reduce clutter, but both metric produce an identical flat trace..

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Sorry - it seems I got the polarity of the reaction torque wrong. The reaction torque from the orbiting motors acts to increase the rotation rate of the central rotor so that the total angular momentum as seen from the central bearing (which produces no torque as its motor is free-wheeling) rem

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Hi Vibrator, Since you NEED to know, I will point out where the fallacy lies. When the orbiting motors activate to stop the orbiting rotors from rotating, you have neglected the reaction torque of these motors. The reaction torque acts back on the central rotor, also stopping its rotation. I

RE: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

This starts to sound like the Linevich patent. A poor guy in Vladivostok who claimed more out than in with unbalanced rotors From: Vibrator ! Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 11:34 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity The system is closed

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

The system is closed, and so yes, angular momentum IS constant per cycle, and, as explained already, the energy gain is dependent upon this fact. It is the conservation of angular momentum that causes the energy gain. Angular momentum is angular inertia (MoI) times angular velocity. In a closed

RE: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Vibrator, I am confident that if you confine your concept to a closed system that both the angular momentum and angular energy will be conserved. In a simple case of a rotating object, if the MoI is changed by a factor of two, then the object spin will speed up or down by that factor. And, as

RE: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Subject: Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity Is MoI Moment of inertia? You allude to an electrical motor, but you leave details out. The abrupt changes in the plots are non-physical. From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019

Re: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

example of Mechanical Over-Unity Can you identify parameters of a Mol. What units (mass velocity length angular momentum etc ) does a Mol have. The Link provided would not allow connection with my computer, A better description of what a Mol is would help. Bob Cook

RE: [Vo]:A simple example of Mechanical Over-Unity

Can you identify parameters of a Mol. What units (mass velocity length angular momentum etc ) does a Mol have. The Link provided would not allow connection with my computer, A better description of what a Mol is would help. Bob Cook From: Vibrator ! Se