Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Harry Veeder
2011/12/3 Peter Heckert : > Am 03.12.2011 22:14, schrieb Harry Veeder: >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Peter Heckert >>  wrote: >>> >>> >>> I believe there is a vacuum for these reasons: >>> >>> 1) I placed a charged needle 1-2 cm above a water surface. The air blow >>> makes a sharp, mm deep

[Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No 484

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear Friends, It is my privilege to send you a young issue of my old newsletter: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/12/informavores-sunday-no-484.html It seems our LENR adventure will continue: - Idea of the week: LENR technology is much too important to remain a monopol of anybody: - Ques

[Vo]:[Vo] : Rossi to show e-cat live... like Defkalion...

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
after defkalion who say they will install a webcam to show an hyperion working http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=587 it seems that rossi agree too for a 24x7 show http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/12/rossi-open-to-live-streaming-video-of-his-e-cat-technology/ Note to MY : I

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: Estimates are that $200 M has been spent on cold fusion research in 22 > years. Just out curiosity, how do we know that number? Has there been a study?

Re: [Vo]:Energy Catalyzer Wiki : FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH!

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
I've look a gain, and I'm still suspect about using ZPE, because ZPE is only an energy that you cannot use to go below... by definition. note that about the law I talk about, GR, QP, TD1/2, I'm just very very suspect about theory that assume a violation of that laws... I know that in some conditio

Re: [Vo]:Only thing what we know for sure from General Relativity is that it is false

2011-12-03 Thread fznidarsic
I provided a unification of quantum physics that was derived as a condition of cold fusion. http://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays/View/952 Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Only thing what we know for sure from General Relativity is that it is false

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
It's true that the QP and GR are incompatible at planck scale , and that is the subject of quantum gravity research. however about galaxy, dark matter and dark energy, seems more and more able to explain the facts (better that modified gravity, according to recent research). It raise chalenge in Q

[Vo]:Only thing what we know for sure from General Relativity is that it is false

2011-12-03 Thread Jouni Valkonen
»break general relativity» [is suspect to Alain] This is wrong statement. Because general relativity is known to be false with infinite probability, because big bang was infinitely improbable event in dynamic cosmos according GR. And we have observed in CMB that cosmos is flat and this is impossib

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 01:41, schrieb Horace Heffner: This is about the water bridge experiment, not Bill Beaty's water thread experiments. His fine threads extended multiple times the length of the water bridge, and were sustained indefinitely, w

Re: [Vo]:Energy Catalyzer Wiki : FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH!

2011-12-03 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I think that wiki article should be frozen for a while. There should be just basic information about the claim with _few_ *relevant* sources and only _public_ tests in January and October should be discussed. I think that three paragraph well written text should be enough. I do not see the urge to

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > I disagree. Terrible idea, terrible article. Estimates are that $200 M has > been spent on cold fusion research in 22 years. If that's not enough to > generate unequivocal evidence of *heat* from nuclear reactions in a > small-scale, table-to

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 01:41, schrieb Horace Heffner: This is about the water bridge experiment, not Bill Beaty's water thread experiments. His fine threads extended multiple times the length of the water bridge, and were sustained indefinitely, with orders of magnitude less current. Read the archiv

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment: http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind. It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to thermographic measurements and heavy wa

[Vo]:Invisible wall - from Bill Beaty's site

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
From: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html David Swenson of 3M Corporation describes an anomaly where workers encountered a strange "invisible wall" in the area under a fast- moving sheet of electrically charged polypropelene film in a factory. This "invisible wall" was strong enough

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 01:16, schrieb Peter Heckert: Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment: http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind. It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to thermographic measurements and heavy water expe

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Another video (62 minutes) about the water thread experiment: http://youtu.be/N1At3Gcd-No Its from SETI and demonstrates the science behind. It coveres everything from flow to conductivity to bubbles to thermographic measurements and heavy water experiments. Very interesting are the Schlieren p

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 00:29, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert: I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment. This needs more current. I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Oops!  I should have read the whole "air" thread! For those who might not know, Bill Beaty is our list owner. He has 56 science videos, 22,000 subscribers and 14 M viewings: http://www.youtube.com/user/wbeaty?feature=watch T

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > >> BTW, you might enjoy checking the archives for posts by Bill Beaty on the >> ability of HV needle tips to generate threads of water molecules from >> humidity in the air. Some thread

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > BTW, you might enjoy checking the archives for posts by Bill Beaty on the > ability of HV needle tips to generate threads of water molecules from > humidity in the air. Some thread names I recall are "Air threads" and > "Filament ion jets" f

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > SRI and the ENEA have done robust, long running, credible experiments for 20 > years, albeit at low output. Skeptics, the DoE and most of academia have > paid no attention to them. McKubre (paraphrased): It's illegal to make tritium in the Un

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert: I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment. This needs more current. I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should deliver about 100µA. Its a TV split diode f

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs **VIRUS**

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 5:55 PM, David Roberson wrote: > OH no, I opened them, but did not get any kind of alert. http://www.avgthreatlabs.com/sitereports/domain/singtech.com "30-day site report for: singtech.com Currently Safe No active threats were reported recently by users anywhere on this do

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 22:57, schrieb Horace Heffner: Here are some URLs related to Bill Beaty's air threads: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_prcDanfMw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLG8gKb-lyk http://www

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert: I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment. This needs more current. I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should deliver about 100µA. Its a TV split diode flyback transformer driven by a selfbuild electronics

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:51, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:36 AM, David ledin wrote: Rob Duncan, vice chancellor of research at the University of Missouri going to establish a national research program that would help scientists study cold fusion . http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2011/dec/03/mu-research-chief- wants-cold-fus

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Good idea, good article. I disagree. Terrible idea, terrible article. Estimates are that $200 M has been spent on cold fusion research in 22 years. If that's not enough to generate unequivocal evidence of *heat* from nuclear reactions in a smal

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 23:51, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Yes, this experiment was made by

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs **VIRUS**

2011-12-03 Thread David Roberson
OH no, I opened them, but did not get any kind of alert. I now have my fingers crossed. Dave -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Dec 3, 2011 3:03 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs **VIRUS** The second link gave me a VIRUS alert -- blocked by my s

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Yes, this experiment was made by others too and published in science journal

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
Sorry, it took some time for me to get to it. http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/08/05/reviewing-ny-teknik-video-did-rossi-play-with-power-setting/ That's the whole discussion via Krivit's blog. The actual Youtube video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uviXoafHWr

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > We need more robust, long running, high output, credible experiments. >> > > SRI and the ENEA have done robust, long running, credible experiments for > 20 years, albeit at low output. > You can't call something credible

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 22:57, schrieb Horace Heffner: Here are some URLs related to Bill Beaty's air threads: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_prcDanfMw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLG8gKb-lyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKvLUL8f4LU http://amasci.com/

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment I see they missed the possibility the water is held together by volume related *structural* changes. Incredible! Her

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > >> >> > The total amount supplied during the warm up phase is easily measured. >> It is >> > the total amount of electricity supplied. >> >> Maybe it's easily measured but in fact it wasn't continuously recorded >> in most

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 23:00, schrieb Horace Heffner: Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Yes, this experiment was made by others too and published in science journals. It must be seen that a strong current flows thro

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Say, Bill Beaty's experiments made it as a reference on wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_thread_experiment Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Here are some URLs related to Bill Beaty's air threads: http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_prcDanfMw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLG8gKb-lyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKvLUL8f4LU http://amasci.com/freenrg/iontest.html Best regards, Horace He

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
It seems that the UofB Press Office doesn't know its R's from its Elba. I waded through Krivit again (and avoided the piles of M.Y. poop -- totally off-topic, of course) to find : http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/01/university-of-bologna-clarifies-relationship-with-rossi/#comments Origina

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs **VIRUS**

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Thanks for checking! On Dec 3, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: I don't recall the name sorry. Somewhere in my AVG (free) / Firefox / Noscript chain. I went back and didn't get the message -- AVG might have tagged it to avoid multi-reporting. Hi Dave, http://www.singtech.com/

Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
OK, here's another approach as food for thought: the expanding CO2 can be channelled through a fluidic amplifier, with side jets drivin piezo crystals at high frequencies. Multiple stage amplifiers can be used to reduce electronic power input demand. Multiple power units tuned out of ph

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 22:14, schrieb Harry Veeder: On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: I believe there is a vacuum for these reasons: 1) I placed a charged needle 1-2 cm above a water surface. The air blow makes a sharp, mm deep and mm wide hole into the water surface. If I assume, t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: >> >> Mattia Rizzi wrote: >>> >>> Electrical power was not continuosly recorded in most of rossi's tests. >> >> In the Oct. 6 test, which is the one in question, electrical power was off >

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs **VIRUS**

2011-12-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
I don't recall the name sorry. Somewhere in my AVG (free) / Firefox / Noscript chain. I went back and didn't get the message -- AVG might have tagged it to avoid multi-reporting. > > - Original Message - > > > Hi Dave, > > > http://www.singtech.com / VIRUS > > > http://www.singtech.c

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.12.2011 16:20, schrieb Horace Heffner: I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination of the ions and electrons. Electron recombination

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Mary, Do you have a link to the stable-stable movie. I like to see Rossi's tricks in action. G On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Charles Hope wrote: > How else do we know what the instruments said, but by recording them? > > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 16:06, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Mary Yugo wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Charles Hope
How else do we know what the instruments said, but by recording them? On Dec 3, 2011, at 16:06, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > Ah. Depends on how much you trust that when Rossi says it's off, it's > really off. Remember the "stable! stable!" video. > > I trust the instrume

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs **VIRUS**

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Alan Fletcher wrote: The second link gave me a VIRUS alert -- blocked by my system, but take care Hi Dave, http://www.singtech.com/ VIRUS http://www.singtech.com/pages/success.html VIRUS Thanks for the warning. Could you be more specific about the message a

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Horace Heffner wrote: If these things are true, then the tiny black holes that escape the local magnets, especially when they are powered down, will eventually head for the center of the earth.

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 03.12.2011 16:20, schrieb Horace Heffner: >> >> I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a >> vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination >> of the ions and electrons.  Electron reco

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
Is it in that experiment that the core take 40minutes to cool down? in that case, if really disconnected from electricity, and still hot for 4 hours it is a proof that something else produce heat? correct me. 2011/12/3 Jed Rothwell > In the Oct. 6 test, which is the one in question, electrical

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: Ah. Depends on how much you trust that when Rossi says it's off, it's > really off. Remember the "stable! stable!" video. I trust the instruments, not Rossi. I do not think it is likely he has developed fake instruments. In any case, I know people who have done these tests

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mattia Rizzi wrote: > >> Electrical power was not continuosly recorded in most of rossi's tests. >> > In the Oct. 6 test, which is the one in question, electrical power was off > for 4 hours. You do not need to record it when it is off. > A

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi wrote: > Electrical power was not continuosly recorded in most of rossi's tests. > In the Oct. 6 test, which is the one in question, electrical power was off for 4 hours. You do not need to record it when it is off. While it was on, it was recorded often enough to be sure it did not

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Electrical power was not continuosly recorded in most of rossi's tests. The only test with a power chart inside the report was in january. All other test they used amperometers and didnt provide any chart

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
strange it is not already done, and if it is a scam it is strange nobody official in the world (US,...), in europe, in italy/greece, having access to legal data there, signal the scam if one... I've asked to Areva about their opinion on LENR E-cat and Hyperion, and my message disapeared, yet the q

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 16:20, schrieb Horace Heffner: I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination of the ions and electrons. Electron recombination with ions is likely what produces most of the light.

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, On 3-12-2011 21:19, Peter Heckert wrote: They should buy an e-cat and a hyperion and see if it works. I agree, but I don't think you can buy any Hyperion at all in the next two years, as Defkalion seems to be only a so-called "Technology Transfer Company". This means they either have no

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Electrical power was not continuosly recorded in most of rossi's tests. The only test with a power chart inside the report was in january. All other test they used amperometers and didnt provide any chart Il giorno 03/dic/2011 21.08, "Jed Rothwell" ha scritto:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Electrical power was not continuosly recorded in most of rossi's tests. The only test with a power chart inside the report was in january. All other test they used amperometers and didnt provide any chart Il giorno 03/dic/2011 21.08, "Jed Rothwell" ha scritto:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Electrical power was not recorded in most of rossi's tests. The only test with a power chart inside the report was in january. All other test they used amperometers and didnt provide any chart Il giorno 03/dic/2011 21.08, "Jed Rothwell" ha scritto: > Mary Yugo wrote: > >> >> > The total amount s

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > They should buy an e-cat and a hyperion and see if it works. > Sure. But how and when? I've been following Defkalion's forum and what they claim is completely unsupported by the slightest facts. And Rossi consistently resists any indepen

Re: [Vo]:Searching easily for all Defkalion's posts on their forum

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
ah ah ah, I'm in a bigger organization, and it is typically the symptom of big corp, or subcontrating, to be slow to change even a single link... taking the time it tooks them to correct the spec, i'll say that their development team is not so "big corp", because it took them less than 2 weeks to

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.12.2011 20:57, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Mary Yugo mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com>> wrote: We need more robust, long running, high output, credible experiments. SRI and the ENEA have done robust, long running, credible experiments for 20 years, albeit at low output. Skeptics, the DoE and mo

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini : Thermocouple placement

2011-12-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
I don't remember if I reported here that I have officially given up on my Spice simulation of the heat exchanger manifold. I couldn't calibrate the model with physical parameters. In particular, the result was very sensitive to the coupling between water and copper -- I could get any value I wan

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > > > The total amount supplied during the warm up phase is easily measured. > It is > > the total amount of electricity supplied. > > Maybe it's easily measured but in fact it wasn't continuously recorded > in most if not all of Rossi's tests. It has been recorded and it is st

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs **VIRUS**

2011-12-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
The second link gave me a VIRUS alert -- blocked by my system, but take care - Original Message - > Hi Dave, > http://www.singtech.com / VIRUS > http://www.singtech.com/pages/success.html VIRUS

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: We need more robust, long running, high output, credible experiments. > SRI and the ENEA have done robust, long running, credible experiments for 20 years, albeit at low output. Skeptics, the DoE and most of academia have paid no attention to them. They could do another 20 years

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: If these things are true, then the tiny black holes that escape the local magnets, especially when they are powered down, will eventually head for the center of the earth. Hence, f

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
Hi Dave, This kind of relativistic effect has been investigated by Charles Cagel. He proposed this and we discussed it at length on sci.physics.fusion about 10 to 15 years ago I think. See: http://www.singtech.com/ http://www.singtech.com/pages/success.html On Dec 3, 2011, at 7:44 AM, D

Re: [Vo]:Searching easily for all Defkalion's posts on their forum

2011-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > I have sent them at least 6 emails about this and another 5 - 6 went via > Jed Rothwell who spoke to them by phone about it. By e-mail. They did fix some other problems. They are not on the ball. I suppose they are busy. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
Good idea, good article. But at least at first, such a program should be focused on testing claims for existing phenomena and results and not on blue sky theorizing about how or why such reactions might take place. That would serve the country best, IMO. We have lots of theory. We need more rob

Re: [Vo]:Searching easily for all Defkalion's posts on their forum

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
Incidentally, Defkalion is supposedly a large company preparing, according to them, to make 300,000 Hyperion machines (for Greece alone) in the coming calendar year, which I don't have to remind you, is just around the corner. Yet they seem unable to make a simple repair to two lines of code in th

[Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread David ledin
Rob Duncan, vice chancellor of research at the University of Missouri going to establish a national research program that would help scientists study cold fusion . http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2011/dec/03/mu-research-chief-wants-cold-fusion-puzzle-solved/

[Vo]:Searching easily for all Defkalion's posts on their forum

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
Someone was kind enough to send me the link below. I have no idea how he developed it. He didn't say if he wanted attribution so I suppose if he does he will post. Anyway, it's not my work and I take no credit for it but it's very useful if you're following the now disintegrated discussion on De

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
@Jed Rothwell By the way, I am very appreciative of your excellent posts on the Defkalion forum. You are justly holding their feet to the fire and you make very discriminating points. Their answers to you, thus far, are very lame.

RE: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-03 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Horace Heffner wrote: >> If these things are true, then the tiny black holes that escape the local magnets, especially when they are powered down,  will eventually head for the center of the earth. >Hence, falling objects. How would you detect the

Re: [Vo]:Energy Catalyzer Wiki : FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH!

2011-12-03 Thread Berke Durak
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Alain dit le Cycliste wrote: > many talking of zero point energy seems not to really understand what it is > really. by definition, you cannot use energy from it. What did you mean when you wrote "by definition, you can't use zero-point energy"? >From http://www.c

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

2011-12-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
Analysis by a (retired) patent attorney at : http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/review-of-nasa-zawodny-us-patent-application-published-october-20-2011/ ... Accordingly, this patent does not represent that it is establishing a process for producing energy based on an LENR or Cold Fusion

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The total amount supplied during the warm up phase is easily measured. It is > the total amount of electricity supplied. Maybe it's easily measured but in fact it wasn't continuously recorded in most if not all of Rossi's tests. And Rossi was

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: > If these things are true, then the tiny black holes that escape the local > magnets, especially when they are powered down,  will eventually head for > the center of the earth. Hence, falling objects. How would you detect these mini-BH? T

Re: [Vo]:LHC plagued by UFOs

2011-12-03 Thread David Roberson
That is an interesting concept Horace. I suspect that black holes could cause a serious kink in the operation of the LHC. A while back I was considering another phenomenon that might be important in this case. At the time I was thinking about time dilation and its effects upon matter and had

RE: [Vo]:check out these holograms

2011-12-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Frank: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMCR9xep81E&feature=related Thanks Frank. Fun Video. This makes me think of an analogy where we had companies that sold time sharing on big computers using remote terminals. Jed recently brought that up. Then, along came mini and microcomputers, and ti

[Vo]:check out these holograms

2011-12-03 Thread fznidarsic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMCR9xep81E&feature=related

Re: [Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
I suggest that the dark zone at the tip of the needle is not due to a vacuum there. It is more likely due to the average delay for recombination of the ions and electrons. Electron recombination with ions is likely what produces most of the light. This is not to say fusion will not occur a

[Vo]:desktop hot fusion concept

2011-12-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi, my idea is this: place a needle in a pressurized deuterium stream and charge it to some 100 kV. My previous experiments have shown, that a stream of nonconductive gas is able to conduct electricity. For example a ordinary needle placed in dry air will cause an ion wind, if charged to 10

[Vo]:Re: Rossi clarification on Bianchini

2011-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzi
>I have already argued them. Not just me. I have discussed this with real >experts outside this forum. Not one of them disagrees. Also, people who know >something about steam have no doubt that Rossi has 95% dry steam in all tests. >Skeptics here may imagine they have proposed believable hypothe

Re: [Vo]:Energy Catalyzer Wiki : FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH!

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
I'm surprised, but their position seems correct. the real spirit of wikipedia is to let different position express, givent they have references... clearly the article is skeptic, but it is the mainstream position. their information on preliminary patent office position is useful. it seems that t

Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

2011-12-03 Thread Robert Lynn
The small gaps needed to make a hydrodynamic bearing using CO2 make the friction much worse. Turbines attached to high speed generators are good because the high rotor surface velocities mean less surface area is needed, making the generator smaller, lighter and cheaper. Unfortunately it just does

Re: [Vo]:LENR presentation by Dennis Bushnell

2011-12-03 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-12-03 04:25, ecat builder wrote: The original PowerPoint presentation file is available at the same link if you're a registered user of ecatplanet.net. We're starting to add some original content for members. Yes, the text is from the Sept. 22, 2011 GRC LENR conference. I have one more p

Re: [Vo]:Recharging EV batteries with cold fusion

2011-12-03 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
for the future of batteries, you should look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery they are a little less efficient than usual Li accumulators, but much less dangerous, and very robust. also you should know that the average speed, when engine on of a car is about 25km/h (<