Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I found a really dumb comment by Joshua Cude in > the trash: > > >> I am sure the COP can be set anywhere you like. It is just a matter of >>> engineering. [...] >>> >> >> >>> It is not an issue. It never has been. Since 1990 I think it has

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: The fact that it was only half of the planned power level is trivial. Indeed it is. What is less trivial is that none of the invited guests got to see how data were taken even though it would have been almost trivial to arrange remote readou

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's amazing claims

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: This has been discussed elsewhere, but a lot is happening and the threads here are tangled up with [Vo]:Re:[Vo] problem, so I thought I would reiterated it. Piantelli has been making some amazing claims lately. See: http://ecatnews.com/?p

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on U of B relationship with Rossi

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Braga looks older than the guy behind the guard. Braga has amustache and the guy behind the guard doesn't. Braga's face in his photo appears to be thinner and longer than the guy behind the guard who has a rounder and shorter face with a wider brow. AG On 12/1/2011 4:56 PM, Horace Heffner wro

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
My point was we need a reliable grid for a very long time and that any wholesale removal of grid load will destroy the companies that maintain the grid and generate the energy that 30,000,000 Australian connection points need virtually 24/7. Unless you limit those going off the grid to no more

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on U of B relationship with Rossi

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Braga: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ VuTdTIJLzoAxfKuEfzNgtdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink Man behind the guard is not Braga: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ Gdy2iSl4V698hgEBZyAqnNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlin

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: Thanks, Horace, good stuff. I'm busy for a while. You are welcome. I should be busy, but I am addicted to this list. I should be getting some new hardware in a week or so, so I'm using that as an excuse to kill some time. 8^) Anythi

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's amazing claims

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: This has been discussed elsewhere, but a lot is happening and the threads here are tangled up with [Vo]:Re:[Vo] problem, so I thought I would reiterated it. Piantelli has been making some amazing claims lately. See: http://ecatnews.com/?p

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on U of B relationship with Rossi

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Braga: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/VuTdTIJLzoAxfKuEfzNgtdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink Man behind the guard is not Braga: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Gdy2iSl4V698hgEBZyAqnNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/b25Ph1fENNhanktJVAo2y

Re: [Vo]:Catalyst could be radioactive

2011-11-30 Thread Peter Gluck
This point is still unclear, Xanthoulis says about a spectrum, but it could be some method of analysis as well. Let's better wait The essence of the issue is, IMHO that Rossi's additive is knowable and other additives with the same function can be found. Remember Rossi has told about a catalyst tha

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

2011-11-30 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Thanks, Horace, good stuff. I'm busy for a while. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: > >> I like his theory, it may well be the process happening. Even if it >> isn't entirely, it provides a good starting point for fur

[Vo]:Krivit article on U of B relationship with Rossi

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
"The Rossi contract must start soon; otherwise, the University of Bologna can withdraw from the contract," Braga said. "The deadline for this is mid-January, and, as far as I know, an extension is unlikely," Braga wrote. Say, Dario Braga, the director of scientific research at the Univer

[Vo]:Re: Krivit article on U of B relationship with Rossi

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
Sorry. I forgot the URL: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/01/university-of-bologna- clarifies-relationship-with-rossi/ "The Rossi contract must start soon; otherwise, the University of Bologna can withdraw from the contract," Braga said. "The deadline for this is mid-January, and, a

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 30, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: Any thoughts how CF technology might affect city sewer services? This is already being tried, but CF technology should make it even more cost effective if excrement is processed close to its source rather than conveyed throu

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I found a really dumb comment by Joshua Cude in the trash: > I am sure the COP can be set anywhere you like. It is just a matter of >> engineering. [...] >> > > >> It is not an issue. It never has been. Since 1990 I think it has been >> clear that cold fusion can have any ratio you like, once yo

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: First point: Without mains electricity there is no sewage or water supply > system. With-in days most high rise building would not be fit to inhabit as > the toilets would no longer flush and there would be no running water. Well of course. We all know that. What is your

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > Jed can tell us for himself but if I recall, his inquiry was for others > who had pretty well lined pockets. > Credibility galore. That's what they said they wanted. I have no idea why they have delayed, or why they are keeping such a low profile. I suppose they have their re

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's amazing claims

2011-11-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:29:25 -0500: Hi, >“where one of the two protons fuses, and the other is ejected carrying > >the energy of the fusion reaction of the first proton.” > > > >Could these two protons derive from a cooper pair of protons coming from a >Bose-Einstei

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's amazing claims

2011-11-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:53:08 -0500: Hi, [snip] >On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, wrote: >> In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:38:04 -0500: > >> Note also that 6-7 MeV is the energy that you get from fusing a proton with >> a Ni >> nucl

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
First point: Without mains electricity there is no sewage or water supply system. With-in days most high rise building would not be fit to inhabit as the toilets would no longer flush and there would be no running water. Once the water / gas storage tanks were empty, there would be no more runn

[Vo]:Thoughts on Hyperion model B

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
From page 18 of the Technical specs Size: 55 x 45 x 42 cm. Output temp measured at outlet of external heat exchanger: 414 deg C. Power measured at outlet of external heat exchanger: 45 kW (may be up to 99 kWs). Power input: < 310 Watts. Primary circuit heat transfer material for 35 - 450 deg

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: Any thoughts how CF technology might affect city sewer services? > This is already being tried, but CF technology should make it even > more cost effective if excrement is processed close to its source rather than conveyed through a vast system of underground pipes to a > cen

[Vo]:Defkalion: 15 g of Ni per chamber

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=604 QUOTE The most serious reason for a 6-12 months recharge of Hydrogen and Ni is not their consumption (or if you like the transmutation of Ni) but pure engineering reasons. Hyperions are quite new, so we will need to run diagnost

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Harry Veeder
Any thoughts how CF technology might affect city sewer services? This is already being tried, but CF technology should make it even more cost effective if excrement is processed close to its source rather than conveyed through a vast system of underground pipes to a central processing facility. The

RE: [Vo]:Catalyst could be radioactive

2011-11-30 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
A little radiation apparently stimulates the immune system and/or anti-oxidant production. I vaguely remember several studies that people some distance ( 12 miles from memory ) from the US atomic bombing sites were healthier than those further out. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona -Original

RE: [Vo]:Catalyst could be radioactive

2011-11-30 Thread Jones Beene
Terry - I have not followed Piantelli closely enough to have an opinion. Do you know a detail that indicates he was using a radioactive catalyst? The more I think about R. Mills, however, the more likely it seems he would have tried 40K and then never announced it. After all, he was an MD and Möss

Re: [Vo]:Catalyst could be radioactive

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > BTW - Radon/radium was once considered healthy. Radium spas and hot springs > were popular - and exposure was said to cure cancer instead of cause it. They still are in Japan. Prof. Ikegami once brought me to one. He said a small exposure is good for you. He also said they

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: The biggest problem this caused was the pension funds for retired workers. > Congress passed a law funding them, in a one-time adjustment. > I meant the pensions being paid out to people already retired in 1932. Not the funds then being put aside by workers still employed. This is the "

Re: [Vo]:Catalyst could be radioactive

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Well, radon is good candidate, except the half life is too short. I'm curious. Do you think Piantelli tried this first? It would explain a lot! T

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Craig Brown wrote: > > Also worthy of note is that Mary and her nice friends at moletrap > published my home address, tel number and pictures of my house on Google > Street view on the internet > I had absolutely nothing to with that and far as I know, it was in

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Craig Brown wrote: > > Well, I didn't really want to get into a debate > Well, you failed at that too. I don't think anyone on the forum wants to watch a debate about Steorn so I will let the history of this company speak for itself -- 21 million Euros squandere

RE: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Craig Brown
Also worthy of note is that Mary and her nice friends at moletrap published my home address, tel number and pictures of my house on Google Street view on the internet; the consequences of which my family and I had to endure.  That sort of thing has happened twice and the second time I had to speak

[Vo]:Catalyst could be radioactive

2011-11-30 Thread Jones Beene
DGT admitted that they discovered the mystery catalyst through spectroscopic data, IIRC - meaning it is definitely radioactive- and given the reason for regular refueling could be the half-life of the catalyst, and given the Celani story from the January demo of a burst on his meter - and given tha

Re: [Vo]:Why we don't need coal

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Yes I have a Tesla S on order. Did not make the test drive. Kicking myself after watching these videos: http://vimeo.com/30168654 Amazing vehicle of the future here today. AG On 12/1/2011 12:02 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/why-we-wont-need-coal Wh

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: As one who works in this field, the transition will not be easy or nice. > Large amounts of pain will occur if the grid fails to deliver reliable > electricity. This is not buggy whips or telephone exchanges. I think a better comparison in the U.S. would be to the railro

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Yes. Totally stand alone. While Rossi will not guarantee the Ac kW output, > which is as it should be, he has basically agreed to the idea of the test > setup. See you were wrong when you questioned my ability to do a test and > not get sc

[Vo]:Why we don't need coal

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/why-we-wont-need-coal While I basically agree with the comments, there is a new kid on the block that will upset a lot of solar PV and solar thermal (CSP) players. MW class LENR electricity grid generators as new plants and retro fits as pure LENR

RE: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Craig Brown
Well, I didn't really want to get into a debate, so this post is my last word on this, but first I have to make a few things clear as Mary is completely misrepresenting the facts and unjustly defaming me.Mary's idea of "supporting a scam" is if you write about anything that defies current theory th

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Please read his post before mine. I did. I read all posts on this forum in order. T

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
As one who works in this field, the transition will not be easy or nice. Large amounts of pain will occur if the grid fails to deliver reliable electricity. This is not buggy whips or telephone exchanges. Cause the grid to fail and we lose the ability to make things, process things, deliver thi

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Yes. Totally stand alone. While Rossi will not guarantee the Ac kW output, which is as it should be, he has basically agreed to the idea of the test setup. See you were wrong when you questioned my ability to do a test and not get scammed. AG On 12/1/2011 10:57 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Wed

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: All the LENR component suppliers need reliable electricity to produce their components as do their supplier and their suppliers, etc as well as the employes and their suppliers need reliable electricity. If the grid becomes unreliable, w

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > You have understood our situation very well. We are working toward a > preliminary demo for our chairman, state gov energy dept rep, client rep > and myself (all engineers). After that we will sign a contract and fund the > escrow account.

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Terry Blanton > wrote: > >> > >> Okay, kids. Take it back to the trap. > > > > Craig's post is mostly invective, as usual. Mine is simply fact

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > You have understood our situation very well. We are working toward a > preliminary demo for our chairman, state gov energy dept rep, client rep and > myself (all engineers). After that we will sign a contract and fund the > escrow account.

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >> >> Okay, kids.  Take it back to the trap. > > Craig's post is mostly invective, as usual.  Mine is simply fact and can be > easily checked. Indeed, how do we check: "Apparently Craig

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
You have understood our situation very well. We are working toward a preliminary demo for our chairman, state gov energy dept rep, client rep and myself (all engineers). After that we will sign a contract and fund the escrow account. Our acceptance test requires the E-Cat to run in closed loop

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Okay, kids. Take it back to the trap. > Craig's post is mostly invective, as usual. Mine is simply fact and can be easily checked.

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > > Mary Yugo wrote: > > > >> > >> You don't know or you can't say? > > > > I do not know. If I could not say, I would not say, or I would say I > cannot > > say. > > No offense to Jed

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Okay, kids. Take it back to the trap. T

Re: [Vo]:Radiation risk?

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Maximum acceptable dose for the public from any man made facility: 1 > mSv/year That's odd considering: "The average dose received by all of us from background radiation is around 2.4 mSv/yr, which can vary depending on the geology and altit

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Craig Brown wrote: > > > > Yeah, if your idea of fun is joining a forum brimming with closed minded > establishment defending pseudosceptics with an obsession for ridiculing > everything and anything that doesn't align with their dogma, then certainly > join Molet

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > We use a private email address. I guess Rossi sees value in our business > model and what we are offering him. He also knows who I am and the company I > represent. So, why would they not wish the world to know who they are? After all,

[Vo]:Radiation risk?

2011-11-30 Thread Jones Beene
Anyone got an answer for this little problem? (apologies if it has already been posted) At the end of the specification document DGT state: Radiation emission: <= 0.18 uSV/h - which equals 1.5mSv/year This exceeds the maximum allowable level by 50%... and we can see the device is lead shi

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
We use a private email address. I guess Rossi sees value in our business model and what we are offering him. He also knows who I am and the company I represent. AG On 12/1/2011 10:19 AM, Charles Hope wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 0:22, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: We exchange emails several tim

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Charles Hope
On Nov 30, 2011, at 0:22, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > We exchange emails several times a day. It doesn't concern you at all that this brilliant engineer is taking hours each day to answer what must be hundreds of such emails? Maybe he should hire an assistant to work the front of the house?

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > >> >> You don't know or you can't say? > > I do not know. If I could not say, I would not say, or I would say I cannot > say. No offense to Jed; but, Defkalion probably has better offers, ie people with money burning their

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
All the LENR component suppliers need reliable electricity to produce their components as do their supplier and their suppliers, etc as well as the employes and their suppliers need reliable electricity. If the grid becomes unreliable, we may lose the ability to make more LENR devices and then

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
You need to think of who uses the power. Generally industry uses 50% and domestic / commercial uses the other 50%. The money is with industry. If 25% installed early phase CF generators, the commercial and domestic users would be left with a grid that is falling apart as there is not enough inc

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I do not think that a first-generation Rossi device would be cost > effective for this purpose [electricity generation]. > If not, it will not be much more useful than a heat pump. > Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > > >> 2) COP 6, feeding 167

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > > A 15% shift off grid would reduce the grid owners income enough to stop > grid maintenance and then the 85% on grid would have no power. I do agree > that with LENR home reactors we may not need the grid but moving from where > we are today to that situation will be ve

Re: [Vo]:Energy overhead for conventional generators versus Hyperion

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
If the input power requirements are small, inbuilt thermal chips can provide the electricity with a battery backup for cold starting. On 12/1/2011 8:12 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: Let us compare this to the

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Jed I agree with you. What I modeled was based on current best available data. There is a massive problem with elimination of the grid as it is not possible to switch everyone off the grid an once. A 15% shift off grid would reduce the grid owners income enough to stop grid maintenance and then

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wonder what a 250 kW steam turbine and generator would cost? These guys have a nice economy calculator: http://www.capstoneturbine.com/apps/EconCalc/EconCalc2.asp?t=RF T

RE: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Craig Brown
Yeah, if your idea of fun is joining a forum brimming with closed minded establishment defending pseudosceptics with an obsession for ridiculing everything and anything that doesn't align with their dogma, then certainly join Moletrap.You could always do something more interesting and fun instead,

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > >> You don't know or you can't say? >> > > I do not know. If I could not say, I would not say, or I would say I > cannot say. > Well, it's very strange. Can you find out? Are you not curious?

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: About $40,000 plus installation for diesel. Complete. Even includes a fuel tank. http://www.affordablegenerator.com/250_kW_60Hz_Generator_with_Cummins_Engine_p/250kw%20cummins.htm Wow! That is cheap. I had no idea they were so cheap. I wonder what a 250 kW steam turbin

Re: [Vo]:Rather amazing LENR site (in French)

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
Sorry for the out of date comments! Gee, I fell for an April Fool's joke in December? 8^))) Interesting that the site is still up. On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Dennis wrote: remember today's date Dennis Cravens From: Stephen A. Lawrence Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:16 AM To: vortex-l@e

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > You don't know or you can't say? > I do not know. If I could not say, I would not say, or I would say I cannot say. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: In the interim, prior to 25 - 30 years, it seems to me that there is a > good chance we might see distributed AC spread across the landscape as > small substations spring up at local "filling" stations - which use to . . > > I'm thinking of something similar

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
I suggested they include a kick starter in the event commercial power isn't available. Hey, motorcycles used to have 'em! T

Re: [Vo]:Rather amazing LENR site (in French)

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 04/01/2011 12:52 PM, francis wrote: Here is the pdf in English http://omael.com/!_HydroPlasmol_Telechargements/Resume/ Projet_Hydro-Plasmol_Anglais.PDF They seem to embrace nuclear fusion, proton capture and splitting of molecul

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > >> Why don't they recycle heat from the output to the input through a >> regulator if they need heat input? >> > > This would appear to be a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. Perhaps > I misunderstand. > No viola

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > >> >> > I do not know what the cost of a 250 kW generator is. >> >> About $40,000 plus installation for diesel. > > Do you mean just the generator portion? Minus the diesel engine? > Of course they do not usually sell j

Re: [Vo]:Rather amazing LENR site (in French)

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 04/01/2011 11:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote: This turned up on Peter’s Ego-Out blog: An experimenter in Québec, Canada is working on a cold fusion boiler to heat a house. He limits the capacity at 1kw of electricity input and recei

Re: [Vo]:Energy overhead for conventional generators versus Hyperion

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: > Heat can also be used directly for air conditioning and refrigeration. > Yup. I discussed that briefly in chapter 15. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > Many things don't. If the Hyperions require mains power and use only a > small battery for backup, what do they do in the event of a long lasting > mains power failure in some remote location where it's very cold? > In remote locations, the units will have a built-in generat

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 30.11.2011 22:51, schrieb Mary Yugo: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Peter Heckert mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de>> wrote: http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register... Hi Peter, If you want to join the

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: ... > I assume that a unit used for space heating only would have something > like a thermoelectric device and a storage battery to keep itself going, > or to wake itself up. So there would be no waste of external AC power. > Perhaps early models will depend upon AC power. Soon there w

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > > > I do not know what the cost of a 250 kW generator is. > > About $40,000 plus installation for diesel. > Do you mean just the generator portion? Minus the diesel engine? Of course they do not usually sell just the generator portion alone, but perhaps you mean a replace

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I do not know what the cost of a 250 kW generator is. About $40,000 plus installation for diesel. T

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > Something doesn't make sense. > Many things don't. If the Hyperions require mains power and use only a small battery for backup, what do they do in the event of a long lasting mains power failure in some remote location where it's very col

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Soon there will be no such thing as AC, and no power company. I meant there will be no external power sources outside the building (no power company or distribution network), and I also meant that all power will be DC, not AC, to reduce the danger of electrocution. When I say "soon"

Re: [Vo]:Energy overhead for conventional generators versus Hyperion

2011-11-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: [snip] Overall, cold fusion will you use less raw heat than today's overall energy production because all cold fusion home generators will also be cogenerators (combined heat and power units). It makes no sense to build anything else. Ther

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > > http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions >> >> Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register... > Hi Peter, If you want to join the moletrap forum, please go to http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/ and ask to join.

Re: [Vo]:Energy overhead for conventional generators versus Hyperion

2011-11-30 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Let us compare this to the Hyperion brochure, p. 18. The ratio varies from > 1:25 at the low end for the small reactor, up to 1:145. In percent terms, > that is 4% to 0.7%. in other words, it is comparable to T&D or plant use > conventional

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Since the subject of electric power generation and power companies has come up, let me get back to this analysis. I quibble with it, for the reasons I just mentioned in chapter 14 of my book. My conclusion is that if you are going to set up a cold fusion reactor to generate power to be resold to a

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I am sure the COP can be set anywhere you like. It is just a matter of > engineering. [...] > > It is not an issue. It never has been. Since 1990 I think it has been > clear that cold fusion can have any ratio you like, once you learn how t

[Vo]:Energy overhead for conventional generators versus Hyperion

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Regarding this issue of overhead or COP, see my book, chapter 14, Diagram 14.1. This is from the annual energy review 2002 edition, EIA. The title is "Electricity flow, 2002." It is probably online somewhere. . . Here is a recent version: http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/diagram5.cfm An

Re: [Vo]:A bit of humor at Rossi's expense

2011-11-30 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 29.11.2011 18:15, schrieb Mary Yugo: If you're easily offended, just skip it. http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register... <>

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: > It would be nice to become free of the electric power company, but I am > afraid that the word soon is relative. If you mean 25 years as soon, maybe > so. > Yes, 25 years is what I had in mind. > What are we to do with all that copper strung across the country? >

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread David Roberson
It would be nice to become free of the electric power company, but I am afraid that the word soon is relative. If you mean 25 years as soon, maybe so. What are we to do with all that copper strung across the country? I wonder if copper can be used as an active ingredient of an LENR system.

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
Isn't that about the same as Piantelli promised to achieve about right now, that, COP 200? With a COP of 100, you can self feed themselves easily, and even with 10% efficiency, it can make a large airplane, say, a 747 -400, fly for 6 months, straight, using propellers moved by electric engines in

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Swartz talked about optimizing output . . . . > I refer to Swartz's papers on Optimal Operating Points (OOP). I do not mean that optimization or a high COP is unimportant. I meant that most researchers considered Swarz's approach premature. They figured that problem will take care of

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: You do not have to worry about wasting heat. It costs nothing. On the other hand it would be annoying to have to leave the cooling fans on. It would be noisy and it would cause wear and tear. At COP=6 I think you DO have to worry. COP=20, no. I am sure the COP can be

Re: [Vo]:Australian Fusion - 10MW out, 40W in. ??

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
We live risky lives. Walking is really controlled falling. T

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > All space heaters and water heaters use the on/off mode. My friend actually heats his home with a few of these: http://goo.gl/4vq2K which take a while to turn on. He did that when he found out that the natural gas minimum charge was aroun

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

2011-11-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:13 AM 11/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: You do not have to worry about wasting heat. It costs nothing. On the other hand it would be annoying to have to leave the cooling fans on. It would be noisy and it would cause wear and tear. At COP=6 I think you DO have to worry. COP=20, no.

Re: [Vo]:Australian Fusion - 10MW out, 40W in. ??

2011-11-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: Also space shuttle main engine combustion chamber releases 9 GW from a rice-cookerish 10 litres of volume, not a bomb, but definitely vigorous. The Shuttle engine was as close to a bomb as you can get without being a bomb. I mean it was the most heat and energy possible in

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Makup of Ni powder in Hyperion

2011-11-30 Thread Axil Axil
“I think we have to assume it is another gas or becomes gaseous with heating.” I have always believed that the proprietary catalyst under discussion here transforms the hydrogen in the reaction envelope to some exotic hydrogen form; specifically Rydberg matter. This catalyst need not be gaseous

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