Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

MY says there is no client. Let me explore the logical consequences of this revelation. Because it's a fact. MY said it, and it fits Occam's razor, which says (I am sure I don't need to remind you) that "whatever MY points to as the simplest theory, is indeed true". Therefore, October 28 was all a

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

- Original Nachricht Von: Charles Hope An: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" Datum: 25.11.2011 05:29 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture > On Nov 23, 2011, at 23:08, Aussie Guy E-Cat > wrote: > > > Sign a contract for delivery, put your money into Escr

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

Good long term business is based on good long term relationships, respect and trust. I have no intention in ripping off anybody, especially Rossi. Power utilities are very cautious and conservative guys. They understand quality, reliability and dealing with the company that did the hard yakka t

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

Why would you try to make billions selling knockoff ecats? I don't know, but the thought might occur to some. He can prevent you from doing this by selling it to you at a cheap price? And offering tech support? On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Rossi seems confident t

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

whew! got that one out of the gate... Here's another example, closer to what I'm really doing in life... Murray's Law: Eternal Exponential Expansion of Science: CSICON, Rich Murray 1997.04.05 2001.06.22 2008.06.04 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/message/76 Rich Murray April 5 1997 CSICO

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

Hello Steven Vincent Johnson, this is my third try at starting a reply to your compassionate suggestions, having shut down and restarted my Windows Vista MSi laptop after the first try vanished after 20 minutes, while the second try lasted only a minute -- sometimes too many web pages and things a

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

It is an earth wire. You can see it coiled up and not attached in some of the shots and videos. I suspect the brown and black wires are actually multi core shielded cables. Once could contain the RFG signals and the other sensor data. Rossi has claimed he has a way to deactivate individual reac

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

Rossi seems confident that will not happen or it will take some time. Why would I do that if he sells to me at a good price and provides excellent support? Selling price is not everything in deciding who I buy goods from. Going for the cheapest price is a well proven way to get ripped off. He i

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

Lime / green wire is the safety earth connection. Heater power wires seems to be grey and white, Note they bundle the earth wire with the heater wires (that is logical) and then bundle the RFG wires together but in a different bundle (also logical as there may be switching power spikes on the h

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > And what is that lime wire near the > heater feeds? Maybe that is a sensor wire. One thing he has lacked in the earlier demonstration is some sort of feedback for the controller. He controlled them all manually. T

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Heater power feeds are different coloured wires. The RFG wires (shielded > multicore cables as I suspect), are dark brown and black. Check any of the > front face photos of the E-Cat modules. > https://picasaweb.google.com/100758632386227

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

Heater power feeds are different coloured wires. The RFG wires (shielded multicore cables as I suspect), are dark brown and black. Check any of the front face photos of the E-Cat modules. https://picasaweb.google.com/100758632386227249211/November25201102?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLHb8NSby9qtRA&

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > E-Cat RFGs: > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uuHG75m08zlbjA_NCNd3PyE-S4c6vKrNkv1_DikVqN4?feat=directlink Interesting. We should have had you around when we were analyzing Santilli's Alien Autopsy film. Seriously, are you sure th

Re: [Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture

On Nov 23, 2011, at 23:08, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Sign a contract for delivery, put your money into Escrow and do what ever > Black Box test you wish. What is so hard to understand? > > AG What's hard to understand is how Rossi will prevent you from chopping open your new ecat, analyzing

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

E-Cat RFGs: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uuHG75m08zlbjA_NCNd3PyE-S4c6vKrNkv1_DikVqN4?feat=directlink AG On 11/25/2011 1:41 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Gnorts, Vorts! McKubre says that he modulates the flow of D in and out of the Pd xtal lattice in order to achieve sustained excess heat

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

I hate it when I hijack my own thread. T

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

Since most of you are newcomers, I'll explain my salutation "Gnorts, Vorts" which has been a tradition here for many years. It comes from the fact that Neil Armstrong's name spelled backwards is "Gnorts Mr. Alien". Another amusing anecdote regarding the first man to walk on the moon involves his

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Man on Bridges wrote: > However if they could be present in the recordings, why not let a cat try to > detect the high frequency sounds? Hmmm, well, Mia, my 4 year old Maine Coon Cat is so high on phenobarbital to treat the grand mal seizures that she would not

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

Hi, Yep, if I'm not mistaken these were around 19 kHz. Kind regards, MoB

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

Of course, if the signal is purely electrical, it would not make any sound unless it causes something to vibrate within the reactor. I'm thinking of the flyback tranformer in old CRT televisions, which I could hear when I was young. I lost that ability long ago. And today's TVs have no such thin

Re: [Vo]:It's Alive!

Hi, On 25-11-2011 4:11, Terry Blanton wrote: Piantelli mentions in his patent that one way of stimulating the NiH reaction is an electrical impulse with a frequency between 20 and 40 kHz. If indeed Rossi's secret includes modulation frequencies in this range (I suspect they might be lower in fr

[Vo]:It's Alive!

Gnorts, Vorts! McKubre says that he modulates the flow of D in and out of the Pd xtal lattice in order to achieve sustained excess heat. He equated that to the Pd "breathing" the gas by modulating the cathode current so that the molecular ratio varied between 0.88 and unity. He does not discuss

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

The Q & A session at the end is interesting. AG On 11/25/2011 1:07 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Quite nice lecture. Here are each video segments with direct links and titles: If you start with the first it will automatically play all 8 us

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Quite nice lecture. Here are each video segments with direct links and titles: If you start with the first it will automatically play all 8 using autoplay. T

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > WTF? I take it you did not read what our setup is to be and that you do > not understand what closed loop means? > No, I do. And I read what you wrote. And yes, a test of the E-cat in which it ran without outside power for a long time a

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Charles Hope wrote: > On Nov 24, 2011, at 19:49, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > He claims to have a self-destruct mechanism built in. > OK. So you hire some munitions experts who defuse such things for a living. If you buy a megawatt plant, you get 100 tries to disa

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Charles Hope wrote: > He claims to have a self-destruct mechanism built in. > Well, perhaps he does, but as I said, dealing a large, highly reputable institution is a better guarantee. > As far as I know, it is impossible in the U.S. > > But Rossi says it's not cold fusion. > It does not mat

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Nov 24, 2011, at 19:49, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > I'm curious. How do you think Rossi protects his IP when he sells 100 of the > E-cats in a batch to an unnamed client. > > I answered that question already. Please reread my message. > He claims to have a self-destruct

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

This is a good lecture. It brings things up to date. I think I will add it to the News at LENR-CANR.org. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Rossi has offered to install 1 MW of E-Cats into one half of our supplier 40 ft container, which will have the heat to Ac kW conversion system in the other half. Delivery of the 1 MW diathermic oil E-Cat system is 3 months as per his usual quote. We are now searching for suitable diathermic oil

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

WTF? I take it you did not read what our setup is to be and that you do not understand what closed loop means? AG On 11/25/2011 11:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>> wrote: There is no way our proposed closed lo

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

What we need is for the entire system (E-Cat and Heat Engine) to fit into a single container. When we agree on the design, we propose to ship our container (with the diathermic oil friendly heat engine installed) to the E-Cat factory and have the E-Cat half of the container populated. Then we w

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

2011/11/25 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint : > Thanks Mary! > > That is a welcome contribution!! > Quite nice lecture. Here are each video segments with direct links and titles: What Happened to Cold Fusion? (eight parts, total: 102 min) === SRI Mike McKubre's Presentation at Cafe Sci

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > There is no way our proposed closed loop test can be fraud. > OK, I'll bite. Why not? And again, when is this test expected to take place?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > Hank Mills > November 21st, 2011 at 11:24 PM > > > Cremating Thermal Inertia With A Custom E-Cat Test > As I've been saying ad nauseam et exhaustiam, it's a great con

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

There is no way our proposed closed loop test can be fraud. AG On 11/25/2011 11:21 AM, Alan Fletcher wrote: You mean he's changed his mind on selling you a 100KW? Instead, he'll work with and sell you a custom version of a multi-cat? (Alternative universe : you hinted that you have a yacht,

[Vo]:Rossi blog -- Hank Mills proposes a side-by-side blank test

Hank Mills November 21st, 2011 at 11:24 PM Cremating Thermal Inertia With A Custom E-Cat Test ... — text box — 1) Put two E-Cat modules of the same design side by side. Any design of module could be used, as

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I understand why Rossi does not want tests. He is trying to keep his results > ambiguous. However, until he decides to allow tests, he should not visit > elected officials and waste their time. He should not waste Hagelstein's > time. He dam

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

You mean he's changed his mind on selling you a 100KW? Instead, he'll work with and sell you a custom version of a multi-cat? (Alternative universe : you hinted that you have a yacht, so he knows you're an easy mark) - Original Message - > We are working with Rossi to put together a di

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Mary Yugo wrote: I'm curious. How do you think Rossi protects his IP when he sells 100 of > the E-cats in a batch to an unnamed client. > I answered that question already. Please reread my message. > There is no smoking gun for fraud. But Rossi behaves exactly and > consistently like free e

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > We are working with Rossi to put together a diathermic oil E-Cat system, > feeding a heat engine system that will deliver Ac kWs from the heated > diathermic oil. We will then feed enough of the generated Ac kWs back into > the E-Cat to ma

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

We are working with Rossi to put together a diathermic oil E-Cat system, feeding a heat engine system that will deliver Ac kWs from the heated diathermic oil. We will then feed enough of the generated Ac kWs back into the E-Cat to maintain it in power mode while using the excess Ac kWs generati

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > Complete nonsense. That issue is easily solved by black box testing using >> a reliable and trusted friend of cold fusion or a university laboratory >> with secret clearance. >> > > You misunderstand. The technical issu

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: We don't know that was what went down. Nothing much went down. I would have heard from Hagelstein and others if anything interesting had happened. I do not think there are any secret arrangements underway. Elected officials do not make secret business arrangements. Ross

RE: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

Thanks Mary! That is a welcome contribution!! Happy Thanksgiving, -mark From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre Link below is to the first vide

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Mary stated: "I'd love to see those "supporting references and calculations" you advocated. If you don't know of exceptions, you should regard such claims as highly suspicious and rather than accepting them at face value when someone makes the claims, you should insist that they be particularly c

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Mary Yugo wrote: Complete nonsense. That issue is easily solved by black box testing using > a reliable and trusted friend of cold fusion or a university laboratory > with secret clearance. > You misunderstand. The technical issues would be resolved, but this would probably not help resolve his

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

One word to describe your paper. EXCELLENT. AG On 11/25/2011 10:32 AM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: Hi group, As a physicist I feel obliged to spread the word on cold fusion and explain what it is to the general public. In that attempt I wrote the linked paper, please have a look and give me your

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

In this segment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3N3dWlIPUQ He discusses some of Piantelli's nuclear evidence around minute 3. Then he goes on to discuss Rossi. At 5:40 he calls Rossi a "dodgy character" but later he says he is brilliant. He lists of the experiments that has not been made publi

[Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

Hi group, As a physicist I feel obliged to spread the word on cold fusion and explain what it is to the general public. In that attempt I wrote the linked paper, please have a look and give me your blunt feedback. Also please use the paper however you see fit. http://bit.ly/cold-fusion Thanks, B

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011/11/25 Craig Brown : > Rossi's behaviour with regards to blocking independent testing is explained > by the fact that he's sitting on potentially the world's most valuable IP > and doesn't have a US or European patent yet. > This is unfortunate but true point. The economical benefit for Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

I have not found any strange behavior in my commercial dealings with Rossi. I totally understand and accept what he asks of his customers and he accepts my requirements on him. I know he works 16 hours a day as I do (if needed) as there are about 8 hours a day when there is no almost immediate

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

some peopl here imagin that rossi can be a scammer... It does not seems credible, according tou his strange behavior itself. if you try to profile him from his behavior, you find more a weak-paranoid style "persister" in process com. He does not behave like the usual weak-sociopath style "promoter

Re: [Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

2011/11/24 Alan Fletcher : > You send us an ITALIAN paper of data from an ITALIAN satellite? I think it's > FAKE! This one is a FAKED FAKE so it's REAL! :-) > (Happy thanksgiving , by the way . ) Of course! Thanks you! And happy thanks giving to all! > > mic

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > You think Levi, Kullander, Essen, Leonardi, Focardi and Bianchini are > lying about the results or these people are idiots? They don't have to be idiots to be fooled. Scientists are more easily fooled than most people because they look

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > > This is the segment where he speaks about Rossi: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=N3N3dWlIPUQ > Thanks Akira. You're on top of things as usual.

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Craig Brown wrote: > Rossi's behaviour with regards to blocking independent testing is > explained by the fact that he's sitting on potentially the world's most > valuable IP and doesn't have a US or European patent yet. There is no need > for the pseudosceptics

Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

On 2011-11-24 23:47, Mary Yugo wrote: don't know. If someone has time, I'd like to know where the Rossi coverage is. I watched the first video and he promises to give some time to that issue: I've seen these videos a few days ago. They're quite interesting as a whole. I've also found out tha

Re: [Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

You send us an ITALIAN paper of data from an ITALIAN satellite? I think it's FAKE! I won't believe it until they give me the satellite so I can do some independent tests in my own orbit. (Happy thanksgiving , by the way . )

[Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre

Link below is to the first video. These are from Nov 15 and I have not seem them mentioned here before -- sorry if this turns out to be redundant. No time to view it all or to list all the videos. I think there are 8, each from around 6 to 10 or so minutes long. Why not all at once? I don't kn

Re: [Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

Seems Google lost the html version of the document... you can find it going to the agile site: http://agile.rm.iasf.cnr.it/ mic 2011/11/24 Michele Comitini : > A break from the e-cat vortex... this is a very important discovery. > > Downloadable pdf of press release: > http://goo.gl/HgFdf > > ht

[Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Rossi's behaviour with regards to blocking independent testing is explained by the fact that he's sitting on potentially the world's most valuable IP and doesn't have a US or European patent yet.  There is no need for the pseudosceptics to look for conspiracy theories.

[Vo]:Metallic Hydrogen

Hi, two researchers from the Max Planck institute say, they have made metallic hydrogen at a pressure of 220GPa. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-pair-hydrogen-metal.html This was tried before, but never had success. Metallic hydrogen is believed to be superconducting at room temperature. T

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

So far, nobody seems to be able to predict Rossi's actions as well as Mary can. The rest of us are stumped, but her hypothesis explains the behavior. On Nov 24, 2011, at 17:07, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > We don't know that was what went down. > > AG > > > On 11/25/2011 8:03 AM, Jed Rothwel

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Exactly. AG On 11/25/2011 7:42 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities here: 1) Mary is aware of

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

You think Levi, Kullander, Essen, Leonardi, Focardi and Bianchini are lying about the results or these people are idiots? What hidden wires? The mains cord went to the Blue Box and then to the reactor. Everything was visible. Look at the photos. What not checking for hidden wires? You can see e

[Vo]:AGILE RESOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE ORIGIN OF COSMIC RAYS

A break from the e-cat vortex... this is a very important discovery. Downloadable pdf of press release: http://goo.gl/HgFdf html version: http://goo.gl/RRUwW mic

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Slide 45 is the one I adapted from New Energy Times it's in my steam quality document! - Original Message - > See: > http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3352744.ece/BINARY/Kullander_lecture_23nov.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

We don't know that was what went down. AG On 11/25/2011 8:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: A friend wrote to me: "Only Andrea could meet with a senator to ask for financial incentives to build a factory and refuse to allow them to test, huh?" - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Marcello Vitale wrote: > Uh, Jed, MIT is private. Or maybe you meant UMass? You are right. It is a 19th century "land grant" college, like Cornell. Technically private but a lot of it is tied in with the state. (Cornell has schools entirely funded by New York, and annual funding, and it offers

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Heh! When I was a Technical Manager at ITT our lab reported directly to Park Ave headquarters. Our new (we had 5 in as many years) technical director went to a critical meeting in Brussels, and came back gloating about how he had thrashed them. A week later we were reporting to Brussels. ---

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

I have read almost all the papers, looked very carefully at all the videos and photographs, observed how the mains power was applied and saw the Blue Box and E-Cat sat on tables that would eliminate any hidden external power source. There was a single mains connection to the Blue Box and the po

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Am 24.11.2011 22:08, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: No one is suggesting we ignore it! And who's to say that one of those magnet motors or water cars doesn't do what is claimed? I must admit, I have never seen a magnet motor or water car. Because I dont see these devices that where announc

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

A friend wrote to me: "Only Andrea could meet with a senator to ask for financial incentives to build a factory and refuse to allow them to test, huh?" - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > You are way beyond being an open minded doubter. > Why? You have never seen an actual E-cat in person have you? You have never touched one much less tested one? What makes you so sure you will ever get one to test? Nobody else has don

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > Agreed AG! > > In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of > the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes > attached. > > SO, there are only two possibili

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: > > It is SELDOM a black or white situation… just because past claims of > magnet motors and water cars have been shown to be mistaken or fraudulent, > doesn’t mean that ALL such claims can be concluded to be t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

Nothing like a really good Barossa Shiraz. AG On 11/25/2011 7:37 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become partial to absinthe. Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. T

RE: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

Good one Terry! -m -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 1:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > If Rossi's klud

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

You are way beyond being an open minded doubter. AG On 11/25/2011 7:40 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>> wrote: BTW Rossi has no problems with me doing Black Box testing of a E-Cat and he knows I'm on Vortex.

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Agreed AG! In fact, on several of the earlier tests, the reactor was lifted up off of the table so one could see that there were no hidden wires or pipes attached. SO, there are only two possibilities here: 1) Mary is aware of this and purposely is spreading mis-information, 2) Mary isn't aware o

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > > BTW Rossi has no problems with me doing Black Box testing of a E-Cat and > he knows I'm on Vortex. It's real, so you doubters get over it. You are > wrong. > We "doubters" will only be wrong if you actually get an E-cat to test-- black

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Too dangerous, have seen chromatograms of it myriads of toxic compounds. I recommend a more healthy hallucinogenic, Jagermeister! T

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

No one is suggesting we ignore it! And who's to say that one of those magnet motors or water cars doesn't do what is claimed? This forum is primarily interested in discussing the facts and evidence, preferably with supporting references and calculations, in order to establish the level of c

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become > partial to absinthe. Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. T

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

Jed we don't know what happened at those meetings. All you have revealed it what one person said. There is a LOT more going on here that has been revealed. Rossi is old school Southern European and keeps his cards VERY close to his chest. Yanks blast everything all over the web. Very different

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

I did say I was not going to reply to you but your last statement is just 100% BS. The reactor and the Blue Box sat on a table. There was ONE power cord that was plugged into the wall. It went to the Blue Box (then the RFG was inside the Blue Box) and then to the reactor. There were no other po

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

I see it is an Austrian product, will ask my blog partner georgina who writes much better than me and in Bankdirektorin in Vienna. Subject closed and I apologize for wasting your time, colleagues. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 24.11.2011 21:20, schrieb Peter Gluck:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

Too dangerous, have seen chromatograms of it myriads of toxic compounds. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become > partial to absinthe. > > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.co

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Am 24.11.2011 21:34, schrieb Mary Yugo: Another possible problem with the paper at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf is that they don't say where and how they measured input power with their ammeter. Maybe they say it [snip] My suspicion is that K&E did it correctly with the l

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > ** Then, why does he invite scientists? Kullander and Essen are rather > high level scientists. For what does he need Levi? > Exactly. Not to mention his invitation a while back to Josephson. > Fire all scientists and market this like

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

That a huge surprise never heard of it!! Thanks, I still have to learn. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 24.11.2011 21:20, schrieb Peter Gluck: > > Thanks, I am very ignorant in matter of tequila, but will ask the help of > the Web. BTW one of the most idiotic laws of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

If Rossi's kludge turns out to be really cold fusion, I'm going to become partial to absinthe.

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Am 24.11.2011 21:30, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: Peter wrote: "Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something that Rossi seemingly not understands." I can't believe these kinds of statements are still made! What Peter doesn't understand,

[Vo]:EV World: Rossi's e-Cat goes commercial (12 sold - worth 24 million)

http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=2035 Excerpt: > Andrea Rossi may have his doubters, detractors and skeptics, > but the client for whom he demonstrated his 1MW e-Cat energy > system apparently isn't one of them. Not only did the mysterious > client take delivery of Rossi's first 1MW heat en

Re: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Another possible problem with the paper at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EssenHexperiment.pdf is that they don't say where and how they measured input power with their ammeter. Maybe they say it elsewhere. Rossi has two heaters in the device -- a startup heater in the middle and a "safety" (?!?!)

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

Am 24.11.2011 21:20, schrieb Peter Gluck: Thanks, I am very ignorant in matter of tequila, but will ask the help of the Web. BTW one of the most idiotic laws of the EU says no alcoholic beverage with more than 40% alcohol. False. There is so-called "Stroh RUM" (straw rum) with 50% and with 80%

RE: [Vo]:Kullander Nov. 23 lecture slides (mostly in Swedish)

Peter wrote: "Scientific experiments must be documented for eternity, not for a single day. This is something that Rossi seemingly not understands." I can't believe these kinds of statements are still made! What Peter doesn't understand, and has been mentioned by numerous people, numerous tim

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

Thanks, I am very ignorant in matter of tequila, but will ask the help of the Web. BTW one of the most idiotic laws of the EU says no alcoholic beverage with more than 40% alcohol. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Peter, > > To ensure equivalent value, you should specify

Re: [Vo]:Rossi denies Defkalion has any technology-- again

Peter, To ensure equivalent value, you should specify the brand. I would suggest Sauza Tres Generaciones Plata. T

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