Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

The word "scam" implies that somebody got cheated: it requires a perpetrator and at least one victim. Money or some other good must be exchanged fraudulently. If Chan is knowingly making something look like something else, as with various feats of bravery videos on youtube, it would be called an "

Re: [Vo]:Rossi & Defkalion & 4 possibilities

The Energy market being insatiable, the lack of a patent can be compensted in part and temporary by speed, a commercial Blitzkrieg can help - for a while. Defkalion seems to be well prepared for that and acting more professionally. Later the number of competitors will increase. This is the best and

Re: [Vo]:A Pyrolysis E-Cat fake

Dear Horace, I would be honored if you will read the papers labelled NEW ENERGY on the blog. The first history writing is at: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-cold-fusion-history-i.html I still have to write about my travel with Yuri Potapov in the US, my visit and friendship with Gen

[Vo]:Rossi & Defkalion & 4 possibilities

I used all my abilities of clairvoyance to look into the future: There are 4 possibilities. 1) Rossi=false, Defkalion=false 2) Rossi=false, Defkalion=true 3) Rossi=true, Defkalion=false 4) Rossi=true, Defkalion=true 1) Rossi cannot know if Defkalions claims are true, but he has nothing to off

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Could the secret "N" company, be National Instruments? They are already designing the electronics and control systems. Could they have been TC? They also have deep military work connections. Pure Speculation! On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Robert Leguillon < robert.leguil...@hotmail.com> wrot

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Berke Durak wrote: > Anyone disputing this is basically claiming that the report is fake > and that Fioravanti doesn't exist or isn't an engineer or became > senile or was on drugs and/or was conspiring with Rossi. > He may also have been careless and/or neglige

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

I think the function of the secret additive is to bring hydrogen in the form adequate for the nuclear reaction, and the frequency generator further enhances this process. I bet that in a year the nature of this compound will be well known and there will be elaborated more alternative solutions. I a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

In reply to Aussie Guy E-Cat's message of Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:58:16 +1030: Hi, [snip] ...well ships probably don't make any sense, because they would use fission reactors. Ditto subs. The army could use about that much hot water for a military base. How many bases are there in the US? >Rossi sai

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > Rossi assumes the output flow rate is equal to the input flow rate > ... Here is how I see it. (1) Fioravanti signed the report. (2) The report has the following equation: Total energy produced : (steam kg x 627.5) + (100 - input water T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

/purely rumor-mongering/ The military customer that starts with an "N" is NATO. The 14 plants will be distributed among half of the NATO membership; the U.S. was just first-in-line. /purely rumor-mongering/ Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: >I hope so too. We have laid down a pathway that progressively

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

I hope so too. We have laid down a pathway that progressively builds trust in the product and it's reliability. Still talking. We do now know the secret location for the first E-Cat plant is in the US and that the customer is military or does military research and intends to use the first E-Cat

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Robert Leguillon wrote: Alumni have gone on to produce such amazing products as: > Pfizer's cancer-eradicating miracle pill marketed under the brand name > "Hey, This Pill is Just Gonna Kill You and Most Certainly Not Cure Your > Cancer" . . . > Right! And if you suppose that's unthinkable, lo

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Rossi said the customer for the 13 x 1 MW plants was the same as the first > customer: > Yikes. That means the next 13 plants will also go to secret locations of the secret customer. I hope he sells one to you. - Jed

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

Rossi assumes the output flow rate is equal to the input flow rate throughout the 5.5 hours of the power calculation. The only way to be sure that the output flow rate is *at least* that value is if the ecats started out full. That also seems most consistent with the temperature profile during preh

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Rossi said the customer for the 13 x 1 MW plants was the same as the first customer: "Italo 1. November 18th, 2011 at 3:24 PM Dear Ing. Rossi, you have written: “WE ARE MANUFACTURING 13 1MW THERMAL PLANTS L

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

More info from the radio interview. 50 staff, small E-Cat in 1 year, not 2 years, with electricity, heat and cold generation, large plant $500 / kW of heat in 1 year. AG On 11/22/2011 1:58 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Interesting information direct from the Rossi interview: First customer is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Interesting points: First reactor is being installed in the U.S. A 1 MW plant has about 1 kg of Ni powder. 3 months to make the next reactor Expected life 20 to 30 years, since there are no moving parts. Where did he say the customer was the military? I thought he did not want to sell to the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

This is the damndest thing yet. Rossi never ceases to amaze me. Oh well . . . the first reliable historical report of airplane flight was published in "Gleanings in Bee Culture" by Amos Root, in 1905. Still published: http://www.beeculture.com/ Root was a smart cookie. I feel a sense a histori

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > *How to succeed in business by faking out the competition with > disinformation designed to make your own business appear to be a massive > scam operation as perceived by your competitors.* This two-semester > course studies the Rossi Phenomenon . . .

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Interesting information direct from the Rossi interview: First customer is located in the US (Rossi has already said the customer is military), they are preparing the site to install the first plant, It will heat a building, Rossi will attend to oversee the installation and do the maintenance.

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

I fear that we can not translate measurements obtained during the October 6 test directly to those of the October 28 one. The water pump systems are vastly different. I consider the high quality pumps installed for the October 28 test to be more consistent in output than the other small unit

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

Here is a search of uspto.gov for "cold fusion": http://goo.gl/groRG I think this hit indicates that the formal stance is that despite it being "incredible" technology, "cold fusion" should be evaluated on the basis of "utility": Examples of such cases include: ... a "cold fusion" process for pr

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos comments on Rossi and Deflakion

It loses a lot in translation, or so I hope for Stremmenos' sake. That sort of flowery nonsense zero-content oratory went out of style in the US around the year 1820. Except maybe in Congress. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > http://www.journal-of-nuclear-**physics.com

[Vo]:helium

Where's that magazine at? They promised to pay me something if I came up with something to do with helium. http://www.flickr.com/photos/harvich/6380599497/ helium bulb ignited by 140 ohm/23 gauge secondary placed over pole of the 666 pancake system. Another pancake three coil secondary set exists

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

I am going to play the piano and write a song for Rossi too. -Original Message- From: Mary Yugo To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 12:02 pm Subject: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug" The interview took place 11/11/11 -- LOL. It's an audio mp3 file: http://tomanddoug.com

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

Yes, but the October 6th test provides some idea of what the Megawatt output may have looked like, had the E-Cats indeed started empty. I was looking for a corollary indication that the E-Cats were full at test commencement. David Roberson wrote: > >I suspect that the input flow rate was lar

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

I suspect that the input flow rate was larger for the October 6 test when the pressure was low. It is fairly straight forward to calculate the amount of water fed into one of the ECATs during the 3.5 hour period of the 28 test. It should be 6.314 liters/hour * 3.5 hours = 22.1 liters. The 3

[Vo]:Stremmenos comments on Rossi and Deflakion

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=14#comment-125963 "Ch Stremmenos November 21st, 2011 at 5:13 AM Caro Andrea DC carry my remarks on a paper "CACIATORI OF COLD FUSION" published yesterday in the n

RE: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Alumni have gone on to produce such amazing products as: Pfizer's cancer-eradicating miracle pill marketed under the brand name "Hey, This Pill is Just Gonna Kill You and Most Certainly Not Cure Your Cancer" and "Splatter-on-the-Ground" brand jet packs, known for revolutionizing personal tr

RE: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Oops! I forgot the course description! Let me try again: "Rossi Business Strategies" - Business #671, Semesters (1 & 2), 4 Credits Each How to succeed in business by faking out the competition with disinformation designed to make your own business appear to be a massive scam operation

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

He is not asking for money. He is even asked for reproduction. You could do it. 2011/11/21 Mattia Rizzi > A scam inside a scam. Marvellous. > > -Messaggio originale- From: David ledin Sent: Monday, November 21, > 2011 10:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A person claim > succes

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > >>> Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. >> >> Who is SI?  Do you mean National Instruments? > > Yes, NI. Sorry. No worries. I just don't want to miss anything in this exciting adventure. We old farts don't h

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Terry Blanton wrote: Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. Who is SI? Do you mean National Instruments? Yes, NI. Sorry. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Mattia Rizzi wrote: In the future, they will teach his methods at the Harvard Business School. They will teach how to look like a scammer? Indeed a good business model for scammers, a little bit tricky for who want serious investors joins in. Success sets the standard. Today, entrepreneurs g

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

I'm no expert here but it is claimed there is no emitted em radiation from either drive. The EmDrive site has a video of the drive in action, a chart of input power versus thrust developed and a development contract with a US aerospace company that required UK gov approval. It appears simpler t

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. Who is SI? Do you mean National Instruments? T

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Jed sez: ... > Still, [Rossi] appears to be selling. He hired SI. He has done a lot of things > right. If he succeeds, people will say this business strategy was the stuff > of genius. In the future, they will teach his methods at the Harvard > Business School. Grad School Course: "Rossi Busine

[Vo]:Re: Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. He has done a lot of things right. If he succeeds, people will say this business strategy was the stuff of genius. In the future, they will teach his methods at the Harvard Business School. They will teach how to look like a scammer? Indeed a good bu

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Rossi wrote: We are no more in the mode of public tests, the times of public tests are over. We are manufacturing plants for our Customers, and our Customers will test the plants they have bought. Rossi heroically defies the world, silhouetted by the setting sun. The proposal of Celani is j

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > We are no more in the mode of public tests, the times of public tests are >> over. We are manufacturing plants for our Customers, and our Customers will >> test the plants they have bought. >> The proposal of Celani is just a provocation, a

Re: [Vo]:Published today in the UK

I can't find the paper at the moment. I think the work was done on tin whiskers, but am not sure. The thermal pulse propagation speed was about 2x10^6 m/s, much higher than dielectrics. I'll look for it some more tonight. On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:33 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Can you

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

On 2011-11-21 18:26, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, [...] Well, given this answer he just gave a reader on JONP, I doubt he will accept Josephson's suggestion: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=14#comment-126526 Andrea Rossi November 21st, 2011 at 4:58 PM Dear Iv

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

Just out of curiosity, is there anything written about "nuclear catalysts" other than related to LENR/cold fusion energy generation? I never heard of a nuclear catalyst before Rossi. I've always thought of a catalyst as a substance which changes the rate of a chemical reaction without being consu

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

Far from discriminating *against* LENR or cold fusion applications, energy can get accelerated handling as per: "VI.ENERGY The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office will, on petition, accord "special" status to all patent applications for inventions which materially contribute to (A) the discovery

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I wrote: > > >> Where does the patent office claim that, pls? >>> >> >> I wouldn't know. Good luck finding it in their rules. Anyway, that's what >> they told Jim Patterson. Maybe they changed the rule subsequently. > > > Ah ha. Here's someth

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

Peter Gluck wrote: > My guess is that the additive pompously called catalyst is not so special > and not so secret. > Of course it is secret. If it were not secret hundreds people would be doing this experiment. Dozens are trying to do it. They have had some success but they are still 1 or 2 or

Re: [Vo]:A Pyrolysis E-Cat fake

On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: I will send you the story privately if you wish. I have met very interesting people. Have you read "My cold fusion history" I and II on my blog.? I intend to continue this. peter I would very much appreciate that. I haven't read those ent

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

I wrote: > Where does the patent office claim that, pls? >> > > I wouldn't know. Good luck finding it in their rules. Anyway, that's what > they told Jim Patterson. Maybe they changed the rule subsequently. Ah ha. Here's something about it: "If the applicant is more than 65 years of age or in

[Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

The interview took place 11/11/11 -- LOL. It's an audio mp3 file: http://tomanddoug.com/podcasts/rossiShow_128.mp3 If Rossi is trying to avoid publicity, it's sort of strange that he was still giving interviews after the October 28 "demo". If this was already posted, sorry for duplication. It's

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:07 PM, David ledin wrote: A person named Chan has posted a descriptive method of replicating a version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim reached self sustained fusion at 200 C for days. http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html Good gri

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

Mary Yugo wrote: Where does the patent office claim that, pls? I wouldn't know. Good luck finding it in their rules. Anyway, that's what they told Jim Patterson. Maybe they changed the rule subsequently. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > Well, the Patent Office and Patterson both claimed they expedite patents > and waive the rules for elderly applicants, but perhaps you are right and > the Patent Office was lying. > Where does the patent office claim th

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

Mary Yugo wrote: The patent office has not denied all patents related to cold fusion. Some have slipped through, mainly a technicality, such as the one they gave Patterson because he was old. That's nonsense. Nobody gets a patent because they're old. Well, the Patent Office and

Re: [Vo]:Published today in the UK

Can you reference this Horace? The only one to follow up that I know of is Dr. Stiffler. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 11:17 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Published today in the UK There is a typo. I meant to say: " Regarding your equation (

[Vo]:Zawodny patent, P.O. memo added

See: Zawodny, J., *Method for Producing Heavy Electrons, Patent US 2011/0255645 Al*. 2011, NASA. For some reason EndNote puts the assignee at the end of the ID string. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZawodnyJmethodforp.pdf Cage, K., *Memorandum: Cold Fusion Applications*. 1989, U.S. Department of

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

Robert Leguillon wrote: The "Ottoman" E-Cats appear to be the same from the September and October > tests. Think about the October 6th test (where we new the Cat started > empty), and how long it took for the output to register anything at all. > I believe that was because the pump was small a

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

A scam inside a scam. Marvellous. -Messaggio originale- From: David ledin Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat A person named Chan has posted a descriptive method of replicating a version of t

Re: [Vo]:Published today in the UK

There is a typo. I meant to say: " Regarding your equation (6), it is noteworthy that the speed of thermal pulses in fine metal wiskers, which are propagated purely by conduction electron interaction, is about 2 Vt = alpha*c." On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: On No

Re: [Vo]:Published today in the UK

On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:30 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: http://www.i-sis.org.uk/The_Z_theory_of_everything.php it a nice article Frank Znidarsic It is indeed a nice article. Congratulations! Regarding your equation (6), it is noteworthy that the speed of thermal pulses in fine metal wi

[Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

A person named Chan has posted a descriptive method of replicating a version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim reached self sustained fusion at 200 C for days. http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html

Re: [Vo]:A Pyrolysis E-Cat fake

I will send you the story privately if you wish. I have met very interesting people. Have you read "My cold fusion history" I and II on my blog.? I intend to continue this. peter On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > > Horace

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > There is a Patent Office memo here: > > http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/PatentOfficeMemo.jpg > > I take this to mean they plan to deep six any application relating to cold > fusion. > It only says and means that they want to identify a part

RE: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

The "Ottoman" E-Cats appear to be the same from the September and October tests. Think about the October 6th test (where we new the Cat started empty), and how long it took for the output to register anything at all. Now add in the fact that the October 6th thermocouple was much closer that t

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

Piantelli has worked with Ni powder, it is written in his 1995 patent and this is the main reason Rossi's patent is not approved. His process and work strategy is even better described in his 2010 patent. The most probable scenario is this: Rossi has found an additive that enhances the Ni-H reacti

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

We have been attempting to understand the initial water capture discrepancy and several issues come up which need an explanation. Mr. Cude and I have been of the opinion that the ECATs must be full of water during an initiation period since it seems logical that the check valves at the out

Re: [Vo]:A Pyrolysis E-Cat fake

On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Horace, Just for your information, I was present at the foundation of the very first Aquafuel Company in Largo (Tampa). Santilli (a mathematician of genius) and Leon Toups a businessman (who after his death was declared a saint- his son was

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

IMHO if Rossi did indeed discover/create a new catalyst then he has new art and it would be patent-able. I think this is part of Rossi's misdirection and why Defkalion has little to fear; either the catalyst is nothing new or Rossi;s ownership is in question. If this is the case I feel for Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

In their online form, Defkalion is still polite to Rossi, giving him credit for the discovery. They should be polite. This is how a professional business organization talks. As I see it, this interview and the tone in their forum are intended to send a message to Rossi: You better settle this arg

[Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

We discussed the Tovima article already. I do not think we have noted this: "And the catalyst?" We asked. "It's not supposed to be secret Rossi?" [Xanthoulis responded] "All the technology used in devices at the Hyperion KW and systems 1 to 5MW are our own design – different from those of Rossi"

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I did recognize, but even so, I am not sure what you mean by energy needed > for capture. For example, in large nuclei, the required energy is 0, since > k-capture doesn't need to be induced or stimulated. > > It's all about the difference in

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

There is a Patent Office memo here: http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/PatentOfficeMemo.jpg I take this to mean they plan to deep six any application relating to cold fusion. That has been the de facto policy ever since this memo was written. However, the memo is vague enough that someone might arg

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

I am glad Josephson did this but unfortunately I expect Rossi will decline the offer. He says he does not want to do tests, and he means it. Defkalion, on the other hand, said that by the end of this month: "A full specs sheet as well as product's basic design and their scheduled third party test

Re: [Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

I've spoken to two patent attorneys about this, one who has been involved in patents in this space. They were both clear that it's policy, but have never seen a written policy, and could not find one on a casual search. This smacks of unwritten rules, and that smacks of , well, lawlessness. One wa

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > > Argh! I meant: "wouldn't have given a fart!" about what the scientific > establishment thought of him. Wouldn't!!! > We get it. Everyone knows Rossi has contempt for scientists. I think he exaggerates his contempt. I have a feeling he uses that as an excu

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

AG, I took a quick look at the EmDrive and QDrive information and must say that it would take a lot more effort to have any idea of how they work. One question which I would like to have answered is as follows: Do either of these devices emit electromagnetic radiation in a direction that is opp

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

I sed: >> IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed >> a few select corporations who believe in his technology >> he would give a fart about trying to appease the >> scientific establishment. Jed sed: > He never did a fart about that. If he has customers, > all the more reason to ignore s

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed a few select corporations > who believe in his technology he would give a fart about trying to appease > the scientific establishment. He never did a fart about that. If he has customers, all the more reason t

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

>From Daniel: > Well, the skepticism towards Rossi will be much worse if he refuses > Josephson's invitation. This guy is completely off mainstream and not taking > his word is really, really bad for his business... IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed a few select corporations who be

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

I did recognize, but even so, I am not sure what you mean by energy needed for capture. For example, in large nuclei, the required energy is 0, since k-capture doesn't need to be induced or stimulated. 2011/11/21 Joshua Cude > In this and previous posts I said a few times that the energy needed

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Well, the skepticism towards Rossi will be much worse if he refuses Josephson's invitation. This guy is completely off mainstream and not taking his word is really, really bad for his business... 2011/11/21 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > From Akira: > > > Have a read at the latest English artic

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

In this and previous posts I said a few times that the energy needed for electron capture by a proton is 780 MeV. That would be something, but it's actually 780 keV, which is still a lot, and is about 10 times bigger than what's needed for d-d fusion (less than 100 keV). I hope anyone who actually

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

>From Akira: > Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This > time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi: > > http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk > >From Josephson: ... > It appears that the UK Department of Energy and > Climate Change (DEC

Re: [Vo]:its been great

Low energy nuclear reactions cause cognitive dissonance among many skeptics. It is similar to the primal fear of the unknown. T

Re: [Vo]:its been great

>From Stephen: ... > Actually I've found Joshua's comments to be occasionally quite insightful. >  Furthermore, in his more recent posts he's generally dropped, suppressed, > or anyway mostly not mentioned his global anti-LENR stance, and stuck pretty > closely to the topic of Rossi, which makes

[Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

Hello group, Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi: http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk (credits to 22passi for the news: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/lettera-aperta-da-brian-jose

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:18 AM, wrote: > >> Joshua, >> >> If this is a real phenomenon, might it not involve complex many-body >> effects that first-order approximations can't capture? >[...] > > If there are some empirical data obtained by NASA on lenr or the WL > theory, > I would be interes

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

I did follow up on what G. Harry Stine observed in a long steel rod: http://www.rexresearch.com/dean/stine.htm Stine was only one of a few that ever saw the Dean Drive in the flesh. I have searched for but never found a video of the Dean Drive demo on the Dave Garroway Today Show. I'm sure ther

[Vo]:USPTO Lawlessness?

There have been many complaints about the US patent office refusing to grant anything that "smacks of cold fusion" ever since the mid 1990s. Patterson was, I believe, the last person to be granted a patent and he is now dead. Does anyone have a cite for an official communication from the USPTO reg

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

Yeah, I don't think anyone has built a successful Dean Drive. However, I believe the propulsion system patent granted to Eric R. Laithwaite posthumously has a chance: http://ip.com/patent/US5860317 T

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

Again we agree. As we seem to be on a roll, care to make it a hat trick? AG On 11/22/2011 2:45 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>> wrote: It should be an interesting next 12 months with at least 2 companies selli

Re: [Vo]:its been great

On 11-11-20 04:52 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > From Jed From Esa you guys had a real nice list going. then mary yugo joined. im out of here. Why don't you just block out Mary Yugo's message? Problem solved. I'll do that in a week or so, and stop responding. Esa, you so

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

For inquiring minds: Dean Drive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_drive http://www.jerrypournelle.com/science/dean.html EmDrive: http://emdrive.com/ QDrive: http://www.cannae.com/ AG On 11/22/2011 2:34 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: LENR does not violate neither energy nor momentum. 2011/11/21 A

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

Must say that for once we agree that the test protocol needs significant improvement. However both the EmDrive and the QDrive seem to work. AG On 11/22/2011 3:22 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>> wrote: Jim Cox vi

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:18 AM, wrote: > Joshua, > > If this is a real phenomenon, might it not involve complex many-body > effects that first-order approximations can't capture? > Sure, but saying it's complex does not make it plausible. WL don't actually predict any reaction rates based on m

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Jim Cox videos of Dean Drive replication: > www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBvzCjpPcE Must admit I did build a unit but it > never worked. > Very unconvincing. If it's not simply sleight of hand, it seems to be fooling mechanical scales becaus

Re: [Vo]:Interesting next 12 months

Jim Cox videos of Dean Drive replication: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBvzCjpPcE Must admit I did build a unit but it never worked. AG On 11/22/2011 2:46 AM, Ron Kita wrote: Re: Dean DriveJim Cox formerly of TRW Space Park has devoted his entire life to the Dean Drive. Seems to work..bu

Re: [Vo]:its been great

> Sorry if anyone is upset. I might have been a bit prolific at > posting but it was mostly in response to responses. What shall > I do? Avoid responding to responses? Keep posting. The hothouse flowers around here who are bruised by what you say can use their killfiles.

Re: [Vo]:its been great

Sorry if anyone is upset. I might have been a bit prolific at posting but it was mostly in response to responses. What shall I do? Avoid responding to responses? Anyway, I will post less -- very little happening currently except Rossi is contradicting himself again. This time it's about his b

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

Joshua, If this is a real phenomenon, might it not involve complex many-body effects that first-order approximations can't capture? Also, since this is a NASA patent, doesn't it have to go through a fairly rigorous review process? and have some empirical data backing it? > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011

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Re: Dean DriveJim Cox formerly of TRW Space Park has devoted his entire life to the Dean Drive. Seems to work..but...mechanically "difficult". Jim now is retired in lives in Sparks NV bootstrap...@yahoo.com The Interial Drive by Professor Alfio DiBella of the University of Bologna works i

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