Re: [Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

Thanks, Michele! I am reading daily Daniele Passerini's Blog and I am informed about Italian TV and radio releases. I am speaking now about |fatti" not "parole" and I very confused re. Focardi.I don't like that he has tacitly accepted the role of Father of Cold Fusion despite the fact that Piantell

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

There is a halfway state between non-nuclear and nuclear reactions. Let me term this state as shielded nuclear reactions. When heat is produced, nuclear radiation is converted to lattice heating. Otherwise it is released to the outside environment. One of Rossi’s big design challenges is to m

[Vo]:in Rossi reactor demos, electric input power boils away some of the cooling water: Rich Murray 2011.05.26

in Rossi reactor demos, electric input power boils away some of the cooling water: Rich Murray 2011.05.26 http://amasci.com/weird/wvort.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/maillist.html Joshua Cude says: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg47201.html from

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:31 PM,   wrote: > >> Jones is wrong again.  It is a nuclear affect. > > Jones never said it wasn't nuclear . . . just not fusion.  I am > beginning to be convinced that this is true.  Low Energy Nuclear > Reactions

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:31 PM, wrote: > Jones is wrong again.  It is a nuclear affect. Jones never said it wasn't nuclear . . . just not fusion. I am beginning to be convinced that this is true. Low Energy Nuclear Reactions are not necessarily fusion and THAT is the new physics we need to

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

From: Jed Rothwell * It is hard to imagine any issue less important than whether it is nuclear or some sort of Mills effect, or something completely unknown. As long as it works, what difference does it make what it is? Jones is wrong again. It is a nuclear affect. The nuclear affe

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > >> It could be more important than you realize. Fear of the unknown is always a >> risk factor and let's not forget a heated political climate. And there is >> always going to be the ch

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > It could be more important than you realize. Fear of the unknown is always a > risk factor and let's not forget a heated political climate. And there is > always going to be the chance of some kind of "Hindenburg" silliness anytime > hydrogen

FW: RE: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

From: francis [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:04 PM To: 'a...@lomaxdesign.com' Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat Abd, You just did the same thing as Jones in reverse by stating Pd-D is definitely nuclear based on resulting helium. If these reactions are

RE: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

From: Jed Rothwell * It is hard to imagine any issue less important than whether it is nuclear or some sort of Mills effect, or something completely unknown. As long as it works, what difference does it make what it is? It could be more important than you realize. Fear of the unknown is al

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > You are not going to like my answer:  "Because it is their nature." > Now Brian Greene would have me say "Because it is their nature in this > universe." Do you know Brian and why he would have me say that? If so, you would understand my

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

Not being a mills expert, how do we know the Mills effect is not nuclear? No radiation and/or transmustation? On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jones Beene wrote: > > It may be tough for LENR proponents to swallow, but they better start >> getting used to the likelihood th

RE: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

At 04:52 PM 5/27/2011, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: The only guarantees will be for 4,800 hours run-time - which is a little over six months of continuous use, and a COP of at least six to one (over electrical input). The cost to refuel is unknown but the reactor is sealed, so it will likely be a

Re: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

Jones Beene wrote: It may be tough for LENR proponents to swallow, but they better start > getting used to the likelihood that this Ni-H effect is NOT nuclear. As a long time proponent, let me say that I do not give a fart whether the Ni-H effect is nuclear or green cheese, as long as it produc

Re: [Vo]:Theories lost

Your post explains my lines of thinking very well and improves on them in many respects. I had not considered what happens to the residual hydrogen fragments after the first reaction takes place over and above the creation of copper from the penetration of the nickel nucleus by a fast proton.

Re: [Vo]:The Swedish Physical Society article by Ekstrom -- translatioin

At 07:01 PM 5/27/2011, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Fri, 27 May 2011 15:55:33 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The detection >of iron in the used sample is >even stranger: there is no reaction >with positive Q-value, i.e. positive >developed energy, which leads from t

RE: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

At 05:38 PM 5/27/2011, Jones Beene wrote: Terry - The situation with E-Cat does seem a bit more hopeful than MAHG on the demonstration end, since Naudin made those silly measurement errors (still not fully corrected on his website) but the problem is looming for Rossi since there are legitimate d

Re: [Vo]:The Swedish Physical Society article by Ekstrom -- translatioin

In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Fri, 27 May 2011 15:55:33 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The detection >of iron in the used sample is >even stranger: there is no reaction >with positive Q-value, i.e. positive >developed energy, which leads from the nickel >to iron. Actually there is:- Ni62 + H

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

I suppose we are all somewhere on the conservative/crank spectrum. I think physics is a difficult place for novel thought because the current models are so excellent. Yet mysteries do remain. However I didn't know that Cooper pairs was one of them. But I see the difficulty in our communicatio

Re: [Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

At 11:14 AM 5/27/2011, Peter Gluck wrote: My former post at the Ego Out blog about how to NOT buy an E-cat in the sack has revealed the existence of many problems for the startup and development of this device. I'll agree. There are lots of questions, and we simply have way too little data

Re: [Vo]:Theories lost

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 27 May 2011 15:48:49 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Through countless revelations generously supplied, Rossi has put to rest >untold numbers of my pet speculations on the working principles behind his >Cat-E reactor. > >As the latest example, Rossi says that a Bunsen bu

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

Not to be troublesome, but if you're looking for a mathematical answer, but you don't want the one based on our best understanding (relativity and electrostatics) then I'm even more confused about what your question meant. At least if you were asking for a philosophical metaphysical answer, you

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

At 04:21 AM 5/27/2011, Josef Karthauser wrote: I also suspect that not all the necessary maths needed to describe all possible physical phenomena has not been invented yet. It's worse than that. In my lifetime, chaos theory developed, it was realized that there are situations where there may

RE: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

Terry - The situation with E-Cat does seem a bit more hopeful than MAHG on the demonstration end, since Naudin made those silly measurement errors (still not fully corrected on his website) but the problem is looming for Rossi since there are legitimate doubts our there. I seldom refer to MAHG as b

[Vo]:Filamental, My Dear Watson

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110527/sc_afp/australiaastrophysicsscience Aussie student finds universe's 'missing mass' SYDNEY (AFP) – A 22-year-old Australian university student has solved a problem which has puzzled astrophysicists for decades, discovering part of the so-calle

Re: [Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

http://www.rainews24.rai.it/it/canale-tv.php?id=23181 If you view this interview to Focardi (at 14m 30s it is the important part) you can hear how he experimented the heat generation with the first prototypes. Of course you have to grasp Italian... He used the radiating heat generated by the devi

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: > Terry, >        Nice parallel - I felt a pang when I read: "This is the latest installment of that vision-quest - knowing full well that it could all be a tempest-in-a-teapot... but also being able to sense the thin chance of success ju

Re: [Vo]:The Swedish Physical Society article by Ekstrom -- translatioin

At 01:54 PM 5/27/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Tip to : Peter Ekström: "Kall fusion åter i hetluften" Points to http://www.fysikersamfundet.se/Fysikaktuellt/2011_2.pdf (in Swedish). (Too large to translate, says

[Vo]:Theories lost

Through countless revelations generously supplied, Rossi has put to rest untold numbers of my pet speculations on the working principles behind his Cat-E reactor. As the latest example, Rossi says that a Bunsen burner could be used to generate the heat for the reaction. No cathode or volts require

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Summer of ECat

Terry, Nice parallel - I've been keeping Nicholas abreast of the recent coincidences such as Rossi's use of sputtering and the possible enrichment of nickel powder due to Soret effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermophoresis. Jones paper below introduces another purely chemical mechan

Re: [Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

I think the skeptics have to be involved- the first question will be:what experiment could convince you? I know well they are not rational and not reasonable and have a kill-the-Ecat (cold fusion)agenda but perhaps they will come with some technical ideas. Step 1 for us- exclude the wet steam trap.

Re: [Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

Thanks, it is for the Perfect water cooling experiment. in the Febr 15 x 18 experiment the flow pf water was not well measured- 1000 or 833 liters/hour if I remember well- a constnt flow pump and the flow of water measurement were missing.Not a carefully prepared experiment. Peter On Fri, May 27,

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

At 10:58 AM 5/27/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Joshua Cude wrote: To the extent they believe cold fusion is real based on existing measurements, then in the opinion of mainstream science, they are mistaken. Every last one of them. That is incorrect. Mainstream scientists have not published paper

[Vo]:The Summer of ECat

The original title of this article was "The Summer of MAHG" and is available at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/aH-gen/message/133 Since Jones is on a posting hiatus, I thought he wouldn't mind if I resurrected one of his better speculative posts from the summer of 2005. With the normal "

Re: [Vo]:The Swedish Physical Society article by Ekstrom

At 10:54 AM 5/27/2011, you wrote: Tip to : Peter Ekström: "Kall fusion åter i hetluften" Points to http://www.fysikersamfundet.se/Fysikaktuellt/2011_2.pdf (in Swedish). (Too large to translate, says google) C

[Vo]:The Swedish Physical Society article by Ekstrom

Tip to : Peter Ekström: "Kall fusion åter i hetluften" Points to http://www.fysikersamfundet.se/Fysikaktuellt/2011_2.pdf (in Swedish). (Too large to translate, says google)

RE: [Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

>From Peter: > My former post at the Ego Out blog about how to NOT buy > an E-cat in the sack has revealed the existence of many > problems for the startup and development of this device. > > I think E-cat skeptics and E-cat believers could jointly > work out a PERFECT EXPERIMENT this could ter

Re: [Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

The MAHG setup would work fine here. http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/tests/pultests.htm I would use a little different instrumentation, eg digital scope to measure power input. T On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Dear Friends. > My former post at the Ego Out blog about how t

[Vo]:Call for a perfect experiment

Dear Friends. My former post at the Ego Out blog about how to NOT buy an E-cat in the sack has revealed the existence of many problems for the startup and development of this device. I think E-cat skeptics and E-cat believers could jointly work out a PERFECT EXPERIMENT this could terminate a lot

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

At 10:53 AM 5/26/2011, Charles Hope wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 4:09, Joshua Cude <joshua.c...@gmail.com> wrote: The language of physics is math. This is a deep statement, worth unpacking. It means that if an idea can't be written mathematically, it is not phy

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

Joshua Cude wrote: To the extent they believe cold fusion is real based on existing measurements, then in the opinion of mainstream science, they are mistaken. Every last one of them. That is incorrect. Mainstream scientists have not published papers showing errors in these experiments. Op

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

At 06:03 AM 5/26/2011, Joshua Cude wrote: You find it so hard to believe that a few hundred cold fusion researchers can all be wrong, but if cold fusion is real, then far far more researchers would have to be wrong. This is the core of Cude's religious position: he believes that researchers h

Re: [Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes?

On 05/26/2011 06:33 PM, John Berry wrote: Seems to give some support to the claims that HAARP is being used to create earthquakes. Certainly it is interesting that these atmospheric anomalies have only been reported with the recent earthquake spate. Of course maybe this is valid as an indication

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

On 26 May 2011, at 15:53, Charles Hope wrote: > On May 26, 2011, at 4:09, Joshua Cude wrote: > >> The language of physics is math. >> > > This is a deep statement, worth unpacking. It means that if an idea can't be > written mathematically, it is not physics. I suspect that the sort of ans

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

Don't you get any enjoyment from creative, out-of-the-box thinking? Do you simply accept hook line and sinker what establishment teaches you? If that's the case, then what are you doing on vortex? :-) Most here are quite familiar with 'textbook' physics, and that it is quite a useful set of rule