Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-15 Thread Dair Grant
Adrian Umpleby wrote: >> The next version of VNCThing (2.3) will be linked with zlib 1.1.4: should be >> available fairly soon. > > Thanks for the info! > > (Does that mean v2.2 is potentially vulnerable?) I doubt it - the bug involves pretty specific circumstances (and depends on the exact be

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Michael Ossmann
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > > A rogue server could ask for a password, send a challenge, and then > ignore the response and just let you in, and then set up the exploit > on the viewer. That is an excellent point. Another way a client would be particularly vulnerable is

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Jonathan Morton
>Sure it's possible to authenticate against a nasty server if they have >discovered your password. A rogue server could ask for a password, send a challenge, and then ignore the response and just let you in, and then set up the exploit on the viewer. It wouldn't even need to send you through t

Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Alex K. Angelopoulos
Thanks, Andrew - I will do a warning post on the Tier 6 info during the next few days, since the package I have up includes that. - Original Message - From: "Andrew van der Stock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 2002-03-14 07:57 Subject:

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Andrew van der Stock
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RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Andrew van der Stock
Alex, Alex K. Angelopoulos [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Is there a way I can tell externally whether a VNC implementation > allows ZLib compression? If you have Visual Studio, use dumpbin.exe to find out (works on DLLs and OCXs just fine): C:\home\ajv\My Projects\vnc_winsrc\winvnc\Debug>dumpbin

Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Alex K. Angelopoulos
I thought it better to ask this question and appear stupid than to not ask it and actually *remain* stupid. Is there a way I can tell externally whether a VNC implementation allows ZLib compression? the reason I ask is the VNC ActiveX tool I use does not indicate what compression method it uses,

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Andrew van der Stock
ld get off my huge arse and finish that. :-) SECSH also solves it, but it's still being ratified. Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Morton Sent: Friday, 15 March 2002 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VNC

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Jonathan Morton
>The prerequisites required to allow this exploit are: ...or a rogue server that is imitating a known server. Man in the middle attack is therefore possible. -- -- from: Jonathan "Chromatix" Morton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (n

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Andrew van der Stock
e- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Morton Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2002 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1 If it's only inflate that's faulty, doesn't that exclude all current VNC servers from the vulne

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Jonathan Morton
>Depends on your malloc() implementation. The thing that causes the bug >to appear is an input stream constructed *just* *so*, and that *is* >platform independent as the inflate input stream is the same regardless >of platform. Bad things happen when malloc()/free() from libc is also >faulty or fa

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Andrew van der Stock
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adrian Umpleby Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2002 8:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1 >The next version of VNCThing (2.3) will be linked with zlib 1.1.4: should be >available fairly soon. Thanks for the info! (Does

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Jonathan Morton
>Apple does not seem to have made any comment about Classic Mac OS. >(Do apps have to include their own zlib if used in Classic, just as >VNCThing has?) As far as I can tell, all Classic applications that use Zlib are statically linked with it, except for a few which include a dynamic library w

Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Adrian Umpleby
Me again... >The next version of VNCThing (2.3) will be linked with zlib 1.1.4: should >be available fairly soon. Just curious to know if you've also figured out the problem with dragging when connected to an Xvnc server? (That's the only thing that's keeping me using VNCDimension at the moment

Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Adrian Umpleby
>The next version of VNCThing (2.3) will be linked with zlib 1.1.4: should be >available fairly soon. Thanks for the info! (Does that mean v2.2 is potentially vulnerable?) Adrian - To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with th

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Adrian Umpleby
>>Product:ChromiVNC >> >>ChromiVNC does not yet implement the Zlib encoding >>Please remove it from the list > >Done. VNCThing supports zlib encoding, and it looks like the latest (v2.2) includes v1.1.3 of zlib. I don't know if this particular version of zlib as compiled on the Ma

Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-14 Thread Dair Grant
Andrew van der Stock wrote: > If you maintain a version of VNC that includes zlib in the viewer or > server, please get back to me if you are affected, and what plans you > have to go to zlib version 1.1.4 or the fixed version of zlib from > Redhat. ... > VNCThing for MacOS X (and MacOS platforms

RE: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-13 Thread Andrew van der Stock
Done. Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Morton Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2002 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1 >Product:ChromiVNC ChromiVNC does not yet implement

Re: VNC zlib Advisory draft 1

2002-03-13 Thread Jonathan Morton
>If you maintain a version of VNC that includes zlib in the viewer or >server, please get back to me if you are affected, and what plans you >have to go to zlib version 1.1.4 or the fixed version of zlib from >Redhat. >Product:ChromiVNC ChromiVNC does not yet implement the Zlib