Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread Mark
I have been having problems with sessions hanging when running VNC over SSH. I will have a session open, and after some time find that the screen has frozen. Refreshing the screen doesn't help, however if I close the session I can open another one just fine (though it seems to take a few seconds lo

Re: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread Andy Bruce - softwareAB
I think you are confusing SSH timeouts (which I get sporadically myself when connecting to my business LAN) with the VNC freeze. In my experience, the VNC freeze only occurs when the underlying network connection itself hangs. Although it may appear that the problem is VNC-related (since you ca

RE: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread James Weatherall
Mark, Is the "Remote machine" connected to the Linux firewall via a wireless link? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark > Sent: 08 June 2005 13:16 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Screen freezing

Re: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread Mark
Thanks Andy. It may be something in the network which is causing VNC to freeze, however if that is the case then VNC appears to be causing the network problem. My rationale is that the freeze mostly happens immediately after I bring the VNC window to the foreground. Also, the if I set a ping going

Re: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread Mark
No - all machines are connected on wired links. On 6/8/05, James Weatherall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > > Is the "Remote machine" connected to the Linux firewall via a wireless link? > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread James Weatherall
Mark, I think Andy is suggesting that the problem is SSH timing out the tunnelled connection - this theory is supported by the fact that the server sees the connection drop. VNC clearly isn't causing any network problems, since you can still interact with the SSH session. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC L

Re: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread Mark
OK. I have set sshd to run at debug level 3 (maximum). I compared logs for a normal VNC connect, use, disconnect session and a connect, use, wait-till-freeze session. The output is almost identical. The only difference is that there were a few more messages like "debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 901

RE: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread Collins, Kevin (MindWorks)
Wez, is it possible this is related to the "hang" (in actuality, looping) that I have been working with you on? Mark - if you look at the Windows task manager, under the "Processes" tab, is the vncviewer process "CPU Time" value incrementing? Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAI

RE: Work simultaneously on both computers

2005-06-08 Thread John Aldrich
Ahh... You want two people to be able to use the same PC at the same time. I don't believe VNC will let you do that. Terminal Server might, but the app would also have to be capable of running two copies at the same time, which might be a problem. As Rob said, with Linux, it would be definitely be

RE: Work simultaneously on both computers

2005-06-08 Thread Pedro Sousa
Thank you for your answers. John, I tried to look for the answer in the sites referred but I couldn't find anything related to it. Like says Rob, I'm not sure also that this is possible. What I really want is to work from my remote PC in a program allocated in the host computer while someone works

Re: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread Mark
Kevin - CPU time in vncviewer remains at zero while active and once frozen. CPU usage is very low all the time, only occasionally flicking up to 1 or 2 %, unless I move the VNC window around in which case it goes up, and then (eventually) CPU time does increment. While looking at this, VNC viewer

RE: Work simultaneously on both computers

2005-06-08 Thread John Aldrich
I got the impression that the OP wanted to, as an example, have two people working on different Excel spreadsheets at the same time on the same PC. Obviously that's not going to work as only one person can input data at a time, even with "shared sessions." -Original Message- From: Andy Bru

Re: Work simultaneously on both computers

2005-06-08 Thread Andy Bruce - softwareAB
Sure VNC does. You just set the preferences to allow multiple clients to connect to the same machine. I do that all the time. Helpful when other developers and myself both need to look at the desktop for a given remote box with a problem. Andy John Aldrich wrote: Ahh... You want two peopl

RE: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread James Weatherall
Mark, I'd recommend running VNC Viewer with full debugging enabled, to see if it reports any useful information. Since you don't see the problem when using VNC without SSH, it does seem likely that something is amiss with your SSH tunnels. I'm not sure I understand your timer comment, but it is

RE: Work simultaneously on both computers

2005-06-08 Thread Arthur Simpatico
Pedro, VNC will definitely not let you run two programs at the same time. Terminal Server, if run on a Win 2000 Server will let you have more than one person logged on to the same computer in two different consoles. AFAIK, this won't work on Win XP. If you want to run one instance of this progr

Re: Work simultaneously on both computers

2005-06-08 Thread Steven D. Clark
Remote Desktop on XP will not allow it. Terminal services on 2003 server will allow it. gotta luv 'NIX - Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Pedro Sousa'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Rob Nicholson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Pe

RE: Screen freezing in VNC4.1.1 over SSH

2005-06-08 Thread John Aldrich
Mark: I have a similar situation... slightly less complex, and I have no issues... Here's my situation: Windows2000 Pro ->Router ->Linux Firewall ->Internet->DSL Router ->Linux Box The only problem I ever have is if something happens and the ssh connection (PuTTY) gets dropped somehow... Then whe

I'm confused

2005-06-08 Thread Daniel Ringhiser
Hello, In the properties dialogue for VNC Enterprise 4.1, it says under the inputs tab "Accept pointer events from cliente" "accept keyboard event from clients" "accept clipboard evernts from clients" "send clipboard events to clients" "allow input events to affect the screen-saver" "disable lo

RE: I'm confused

2005-06-08 Thread John Aldrich
The "clipboard" events mean that you can highlight and copy something on the remote side, then paste it locally. That answer your question? ;_0 -Original Message- From: Daniel Ringhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:16 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: I'm

Re: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Lee
Hi All, Still no connection from my work computer to my host home computer. Am I missing some setting on my host computer that could be blocking this specific ip address. Or would the problem more likely be on the viewer computer? Thanks, Lee On 6/2/05, Scott C. Best <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Scott C. Best
Lee: As an experiment, please try this: install one of the older VNC servers on your host home computer: http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/3.3.7/download.html See if you can establish a connection to that VNC Server. If that works...we'll know better how to peel this onion.

RE: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread James Weatherall
Scott, Really? How will that help? Lee, It sounds like you're got some problem with the Hosts/Access Control setting, so that you've configured VNC Server to block connections from certain/all IP addresses - it doesn't sound like blacklisting at all. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Orig

RE: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Scott C. Best
Wez: Sorry for not being obvious: the 3.3.7 version does not include the blacklisting feature. If he can successfully connect to it, but not to 4.1.x, it narrows down what the problem is. Also, 3.3.7 doesn't use the same registry keys, so if he has the 4.1 version's incorrectly set someho

Re: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Lee
Hi Scott, I will give it a try. Do I have to install the older viewer also? Thanks, Lee On 6/8/05, Scott C. Best <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lee: > > As an experiment, please try this: install one of the older > VNC servers on your host home computer: > > http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/3.

Re: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Scott C. Best
Lee: I'm pretty sure the newer viewers are fully compatible with the older versions, so there should be no troubles there. Good luck! -Scott On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Lee wrote: Hi Scott, I will give it a try. Do I have to install the older viewer also? Thanks, Lee On 6/8/05, Scott

Re: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Lee
Hi Scott, I tried it and still no luck. Lee On 6/8/05, Scott C. Best <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lee: > > I'm pretty sure the newer viewers are fully compatible > with the older versions, so there should be no troubles there. > Good luck! > > -Scott > > On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Lee wrote: > > > Hi S

Re: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Lee
I haven't blocked any IP address on purpose. How would I unblock them if I had? Lee On 6/8/05, Scott C. Best <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wez: > > Sorry for not being obvious: the 3.3.7 version does not > include the blacklisting feature. If he can successfully connect > to it, but not to 4.1.x,

Re: Blacklisted IP address

2005-06-08 Thread Lee
Hi James, I only have the + in the access control area. Lee On 6/2/05, James Weatherall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lee, > > You will see the message "Too many security failures" if a host has been > blacklisted, rather than "Connection closed unexpectedly". Blacklisting > will only last for 24