Resetting VNC server after Unable to connect to host: Connection refused ( 10061) message

2006-06-07 Thread David Kaufman \(kaufmand\)
I have Linux workstations. I use VNC to access it. I only use terminal windows and a simple text editors in linux.I never access linux from the pc console. I only use VNC sessions. After a few weeks of operation I eventually get in to a state where I cannot access it. I get: Unable to connect t

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
[__ __] napisal(a): [Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Dave Dyer wrote: > > Why do you think it will never happen? I think it's inevitable. > > I pay for virus protection; there's real money to be made providing > > a better service. > > I don't think you can, by any

Re: Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread glendaharris
As a newbie to all of this, I just want to say that I really appreciate this discussion and have learned quite a bit (Its been quite entertaining as well). I downloaded the free version of RealVNC but I have decided to upgrade and purchase it so that I can receive the proper support and learn

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread ·· ħþø ··
Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: Why? What is different in running a VNC server exposed to the Internet from running a SSH (or even a telnet!) server exposed to the Internet, for example? And there are many such servers out there... It's like any remote access service - you run it, if you need it. Of course,

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 16:40, Dave Dyer wrote: > >> 2) word should have been passed to norton, mcaffee, etc so they > >> could target vulnerable versions of vnc on behalf of their > >> customers. I don't know if this mechanism exists, but it ought to. > > > >This one is never going to happen for c

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Miller
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Alex Pelts wrote: IMHO, VNC people did all they could to fix the problem and post the update. It is up to the users to make sure they are up to date. If you do not like RealVNC security record you are always free to run any other software. There are really many choices you ca

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread virus
John Aldrich wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:11 PM: Probably the way to protect people from doing stupid things is to electrocute them any time they are clicking on attachment to develop a reflex. (BOFH Mode=ON) Hmm... I *like* that idea. (BOFH Mode=OFF) see http:

RE: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread John Aldrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:11 PM: > > It is simply impossible to protect a person from himself. >[snip] > > Probably the way to protect people from doing stupid > things is to electrocute them any time they are clicking > on attachment to develop a reflex. > (BOFH Mode=O

RE: Newbie question - new install vs upgrade

2006-06-07 Thread James Weatherall
Hi Paul, You can upgrade over an active 4.1.1 installation. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Bickley > Sent: 07 June 2006 02:18 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Newbie question - new install v

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread ·· ħþø ··
Alex Pelts wrote: It is simply impossible to protect a person from himself. At this time pretty much anyone should know that clicking on attachments is bad yet everyone still does it. With amount of scams going on you wold thing that people would be suspicions of emails asking them to type in the

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Alex Pelts
Well, Let say if you pay money to Symantec why don't you ask them to protect your pc? What is RealVNC has to do with it? I pay money to RealVNC people for EE and I got my email notifying me about security update. So I have no beef with RealVNC as they provide the service I pay for. I think 2) wil

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Alex Pelts
> I don't think you can, by any means, compare your proposition to an > antivirus solution. The complexities of protecting a person from > protecting their own ignorance, not in a demeaning sense, are so > multifaceted. It would literally be impossible to stay on top of every > single threat, and t

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread ·· ħþø ··
Dave Dyer wrote: Why do you think it will never happen? I think it's inevitable. I pay for virus protection; there's real money to be made providing a better service. I don't think you can, by any means, compare your proposition to an antivirus solution. The complexities of protecting a pers

Newbie question - new install vs upgrade

2006-06-07 Thread Paul Bickley
To resolve the security vulnerability with 4.1.1 should I unistall it and reinstall with 4.1.2 or will an upgrade over 4.1.1 fix it? _ Be quick, these Dell end of financial year deals cant last! http://clk.atdmt.com/OMA/go/dau0100

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Dave Dyer
>> 2) word should have been passed to norton, mcaffee, etc so they >> could target vulnerable versions of vnc on behalf of their customers. >> I don't know if this mechanism exists, but it ought to. > >This one is never going to happen for countless reasons. No company will >make your box secure if

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread ·· ħþø ··
Dave Dyer wrote: It's really not realistic or reasonable to expect every PC user to be their own ever-vigilant security expert. I try to keep up on these things, and I had barely noticed. I doubt that 10% of VNC users read either slashdot or vnc-list, much less never miss anything important t

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Alex Pelts napisal(a): [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > IMHO running VNC server exposed to the Internet is a bad idea in the > first place. Why? What is different in running a VNC server exposed to the Internet from running a SSH (or even a telnet!) server exposed to th

via option

2006-06-07 Thread Scott Hyde
Can someone describe the "via" option? I find out about the via option from a "vncviewer --help" (As shown below.) Is it similar to the via option of tightvnc? -Scott - Copyright (C) 2002-2005 RealVNC Ltd. See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC.

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Alex Pelts
Dave Dyer wrote: > 1) vnc should maintain it's own list, reserved for security flash > alerts only, and strongly encourage anyone who installs vnc > to sign up. That is not such a bad idea but this security problem only happened once since I started using VNC(as far as I recall), and I started usi

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 13:15, Dave Dyer wrote: > It's really not realistic or reasonable to expect every PC user to be > their own ever-vigilant security expert. Yes and no. It depends on how important security is to you. As pointed out, the flaw was posted on this list. I find that just re

Re: vnc security flaw?

2006-06-07 Thread cpz
Hi guys, I just had that experience. However, I have Zone Alarm installed so when the intruder tried to download the trojan file, my Zone Alarm blocked it. Still, the intruder caused certain programs not to function correctly but I could just re install them. I signed up

RealVNC Security Flaw

2006-06-07 Thread Jorge L. Vizcarralagos
Darkman wrote: I let my norton expire for a few days, and noiced in my event viewer anumber of connections to VNC from various other countries. however I didn't notice the icon turning black as it would in a conneciton mode. so I was wondering if I am being connected to, via some trojan. I did

Re: revisiting "blank screen" problem

2006-06-07 Thread Justin Kuo
Thanks for all your responses! I had feedback about three major topics: #1 - color depth connection (I had this issue with a connection recently). Try changing the settings to low colours on the client (so it uses less bandwidth) and connect again. Also, check that the server does not have a p