@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
What is accessible for you?
The tool that allows to access something that is not accessible on a n
eghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
bhad...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
That is not true. The bug report
: Friday, September 26, 2014 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
That is not true. The bug reporting page is accessible, but takes practice to
use.
On Friday, September 26, 2014 2:30:55 PM UTC-5, Charles R
;
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
> VoiceOver
>
>
> The only way Mobile Platforms are going to
> improve, in my opinion, is if people offer
> "constructive criticism" o
ould I have to, no.
>>>> Will I still buy Apple, most likely yes, as I have invested so heavily in
>>>> a fully Apple ecosystem, iPhone, iMac, and Mac Air, but as someone who has
>>>> never even picked up a Droid, or used Jaws as my vision went in 2009, I'm
&g
! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: "Robin"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
The only way Mobile Platforms are going to
improve, in my opinion, is if people offer
"c
like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Lol! That will be part of the handoff feature in iOS 8. This allows calls to
be made and received from any device running iOS 8 including iPad and iPod
Touch as well as Macs running Yosemite coming soon.
Sent from my Macbook Pro
On 2
ave cell service but began ringing after this update, does announce who's
calling. So go figure! LOL
Ann
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Pelletier"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
Voice
he other side, something I thought I would never do.
>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 1:00 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>
>>>> My 4S is doing better than my 5S. Fortunately I'm not having any crashing
>>>> problems for the most part, but the caller ID on my 5S doesn
my 4S, which doesn't
have cell service but began ringing after this update, does announce who's
calling. So go figure! LOL
Ann
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Pelletier"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: why I don't like iOS 8: w
Friday, September 26, 2014 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
I'm downloading 8.2 as I write this.
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
Move out. Get a
Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
I think that Apple does care about accessibility. Otherwise, Voice-Over
would not exist. I feel that they should have waited until a lot of the
bugs were fixed befor
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
What a lot of people are objecting to is not your complaints about iOS8. I,
for one, don't know any Apple employees or employers. But your blanket
statement that iOS8 being total crap is both offensive and
think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Fischler"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
I am the one who posted this topic, and
er 25, 2014 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
My 4S is doing better than my 5S. Fortunately I'm not having any crashing
problems for the most part, but the caller ID on my 5S doesn't announce
who's calling anymore! Major disap
ished!
- Original Message -
From: "John Panarese"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Frankly, I don't think the problems with iOS 8 would tempt me to consider
Android.
: Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Lol! That will be part of the handoff feature in iOS 8. This allows calls to
be made and received from any device running iOS 8 including iPad and iPod
Touch as well as
o go figure! LOL
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ron Pelletier"
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:47 PM
>> Subject: RE: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
>> VoiceO
hich doesn't
>>
>> have cell service but began ringing after this update, does announce who's
>>
>> calling. So go figure! LOL
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ron Pelletier"
>> To:
>> Sent: We
h doesn't
> have cell service but began ringing after this update, does announce who's
> calling. So go figure! LOL
>
> Ann
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ron Pelletier"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:47 PM
>
It is something that I really like.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
upon request. Thanks for listening!
- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth
To: Viphone
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Lol! That will be part of the handoff feature
y, September 24, 2014 6:16 PM
Subject: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
Personally, I believe the subject should be changed. iOS is not complete
crap. It may not have all of the bugs worked out, but it is not complete
crap. That's just one person&#x
, does announce who's
> calling. So go figure! LOL
>
> Ann
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ron Pelletier"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:47 PM
> Subject: RE: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
>
does announce who's
calling. So go figure! LOL
Ann
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Pelletier"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Sharonda,
Maybe Apple is not comple
I doubletap on show bookmarks at the bottom of the screen, then on the next
screen I doubletap on history, then I flick to find the link for the previous
page.
From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with
was your lucky ...
I'm still with 7.2 and have not updated to 8, because I already know how
Apple works with the blind community ...
cheers.
Em 24/09/2014 07:15, Shirley escreveu:
So glad I didnt update. I couldnt, I did not have enough space on my
phone. But now I'm glad I didnt.
shirley
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headings typically are being reported
in the rotor, and the page is generally just not navigable in any way.
-Original Message-
From: John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
I've not
So glad I didnt update. I couldnt, I did not have enough space on my phone.
But now I'm glad I didnt.
shirley
-Original Message-
From: Brian Fischler
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
I'm sorry but Voi
sage-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8
AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Well, while I don't disagree with you about what happened today, Apple and
IOS 8 aren't complete crap, because despite the bugs, many of us upgraded to
this. And most folks, w
appen.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Well, while I don&
n company. The
Cortana commercial must sure be looking good to some people about now, and
for the price, androids are looking better.
- Original Message -
From: "Dave Mitchel"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
I wo
gs will be fine.
- Original Message -
From: "John Diakogeorgiou"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with
IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very po
Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
VoiceOver
Well, while I don't disagree with you about what happened today, Apple and
IOS 8 aren't complete crap, be
o: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
>
> I don't use a bluetooth keyboard or display, and I have no major problems.
> Yes, VO crashes more, and sometimes Siri won't work quite right. I'm willing
> to put up with those problems, thoug
gt; -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sharonda Greenlaw
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with
> V
hone@googlegroups.com
Subject: why I don't like iOS 8: was Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
Personally, I believe the subject should be changed. iOS is not complete crap.
It may not have all of the bugs worked out, but it is not complete crap. That's
just one person's opin ion.
viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
>
> It seems to me that the people who are having crashing
inal Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems
;>>>>> So out of curiosity, what are people's opinions about running iOS 8 on
>>>>>>>> an iPhone 5? I have the 5 and haven't updated yet, trying to wait
>>>>>>>> until I get the new iPhone 6 hopefully soon.
>>>>>>
f
Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8.
However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s.
I have not found a pattern t
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So out of curiosity, what are people's opinions about running iOS 8 on
>>>>>>> an iPhone 5? I have the 5 and haven't updated yet, trying to wait
>>>>>>> until I get the new iPhone 6 hopefully soon.
>>&g
>>> But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed VO is
>>> on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
>>> I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: vi
Russ, I would sure like to know how you work around the Safari bug with
Voiceover and IOS 8.
Thanks.
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t still the same.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
Doing as David suggests is probably best, but i
factory settings but still the same.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete cr
akogeorgiou wrote:
>>>>>>> It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with
>>>>>>> IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very possible that the 4s can't
>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>> the requirements of
ossible that the 4s can't
>>>>>> handle
>>>>>> the requirements of IOS with other apps and Apple shouldn't have
>>>>>> supported it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/24/14, Øyvind Lode wrote:
>>>>>>&
ouldn't have
>>>>> supported it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/24/14, Øyvind Lode wrote:
>>>>>> First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8.
>>>>>> However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my
gt;>>>> But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed
>>>>> VO
>>>>> is
>>>>> on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
>>>>> I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.
>>>>>
&g
to iOS 8.
>>>>> However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s.
>>>>> I have not found a pattern to all the crashes.
>>>>> The good thing is that VO at least restarts when it decide to die on me.
>>>>> But it crashes at least 10-15 times a
gt;>> I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>&g
restarts when it decide to die on me.
>>>> But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed VO
>>>> is
>>>> on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
>>>> I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.
>>>>
>&
off into
something else.
I wish I had waited for the second coming of this update/upgrade system.
-Original Message-
From: Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
So out of curiosity, what
;> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>>> Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with
t"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
So out of curiosity, what are people's opinions about running iOS 8 on
an iPhone 5? I have the 5 and haven't updated yet, trying to wait
until I get the new iPhone 6 hopefully soon
t; on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
>>> I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Christo
VO
>> is
>> on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
>> I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Christo
september 2014 13:53
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
>
> Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the case
> that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to toggle
> the voice on and off.
>
&
6.
Hopefully I can do it soon but I won't hold my breath.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap
phone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver
Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the case
that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to toggle
the voice on and off.
Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver shor
Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the case
that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to toggle
the voice on and off.
Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver short cut, try a
triple tap of the home button. Recycling VoiceOver help
When VO goes quiet like that, take your fingers away from the iPhone. iOS is
performing memory management. Give a chance for iOS / VO to catch up. Something
similar occurred with iOS 7 when it first came out. Unlike blindness specific
poducts which can take six months to a year to be fixed, Appl
All this for one failure? How dependable has Apple been in the past? Have
they fixed problems? Maybe you can still go back to 7.1.2 using the
instructions found in previous posts to the list, and then upgrade after
some of the bugs have been exterminated. Just a thought.
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