[vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-22 Thread Thomas Hilber
Hi list, the last few days I made some interesting experiences with VGA cards I now want to share with you. goal develop a budget card based VDR with PAL/RGB output and FF like output quality problem --- as we all know current VGA graphics output quality suffers from certain limitatio

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-22 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 07:12:35PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: > In the inevitable shift towards HDTV and progressive scanning, I was > becoming increasingly concerned that the countless hours of interlaced > content would be forgotten in the scramble for new and shiny. not to forget interlaced for

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-22 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:30:46PM +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote: > currently I'm still using a pentium 4, 2.4GHz machine with nvidia AGP 440MX > card, at least the VGA-to-SCART cable (not yet the patch itself) does run here on nVidia hardware without problems. Box is a PUNDIT P1-AH2 with nVidia

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:12:46AM +0200, Martin Emrich wrote: > I have connected my VDR box to my TV via a DVI-to-HDMI cable, set the > resolution to 1920x1080 and let the graphics card do the upscaling > instead of the TV, because the quality looks IMHO better this way. But ok. But if doing so y

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:41:54AM +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote: > deinterlacers. I use the machine as a home PC on DISPLAY=:0.0. I understand > that your solution helps when using a LCD/Plasma with dvi/d-sub/scart > connectors. right. It also helps for deinterlaced output using a LCD/Plasma wit

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:51:13PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > A bit off topic.. Does any of the video players for Linux switch to a > resolution/modeline with a different refresh rate when watching a movie to > get perfect synchronization and no tearing? some time ago I accidentally stumbled

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
Hi, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 06:04:29PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > Your approach is very interesting, I myself have seen the problems > that clock drift has on judder when using softdevice with vdr. yes, that's also my experience with certain xineliboutput - xine-lib version combinations. I a

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:20:08AM +0100, Laz wrote: > that the only cards that could be convinced to sync at such low rates, > i.e. 50 Hz for PAL, were the Matrox G400, G450, etc. Whenever I tried > setting modelines with any other cards, I never got any output or an > error when starting X. a

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:05:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > I assume RGB NTSC should work as well.. ? basically yes. The devil is in the details:) Just give it a try. > > When xine-lib calls PutImage() it checks whether to increase/decrease > > Xservers frame rate. This way after a short a

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:02:50PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > > Hmm.. I still don't understand why you need to do this in the first > > place? > > > It is to avoid the output framerate drifting away from the DVB-T/S/C > input framerate. right. Normally Xserver modelines can only produce '

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 01:49:18PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Does this mean XV extension (or X itself) does not provide a way to > "wait for retrace" out-of-the-box.. and your patch adds that functionality? most implementations provide "wait for retrace" out-of-the-box. The point is that

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 03:53:01PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Is it possible to output WSS signal from a VGA card to switch between 4:3 > and 16:9 modes? > > http://www.intersil.com/data/an/an9716.pdf it should be possible to emulate WSS by white dots/lines in a specific scanline. But I did

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-29 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:17:26PM +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: > Unfortunately with Radeons we currently have 2 problems unsolved: > > 1. there appears to be a tiny bug in XV overlay scaling code which > sometimes mixes even and odd fields at certain resolutions. A workaround > to

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-29 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:40:49PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > Maybe then I find some time to port the patch to other platforms > > (like intel based graphics cards). > > That would rock. maybe this way we could fix current issues with S100. Picture quality dramaticly improves if deinterlac

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-08 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:23:34PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: > Finally I have had a chance to try these patches - I managed to get an > old Radeon 7000 PCI (RV100)... nice! > I am using a fresh bare install of Ubuntu hardy which ships xine-lib > 1.1.11, but the patches don't compile :( The Makef

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-09 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 11:26:21PM +0400, Goga777 wrote: > does your idea actually for new generation cards - ATI HD series, Intel > G35/45 chipsets with hdmi output ? currently it does for everything pre-avivo (e.g. before r500 with the exception of rs690 which is a r300-style 3d core but 2d is

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-10 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:05:20PM +0400, Goga777 wrote: > but for 3d games this problem also actually ? or this issue exists only for > video playback ? 3d and playback from disk sync to the rate provided by the graphics card. What is of course not possible for live-TV. Cheers Thomas _

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-12 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 07:40:15PM +0300, Jouni Karvo wrote: > with NVIDIA driver 169 and 173 at least, this does not yet work: the patch is not yet ported to nVidia that's true. Independent from that you can configure the nVidia-Xserver to output a PAL/RGB compatible signal. And connect a CRT

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-12 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:29:53AM +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote: > Does somebody have a URL on how to make one? for d-sub to scart or the new > DVI (modern graphic cards) to scart? my favorite cable works with all graphics cards supporting RGB. I don't think it's too complex:) you find it in t

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:44:37PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: > I have a system not dissimilar to yours.. it's a P3-1GHz with PCI Radeon > 7000. OS is Ubuntu hardy with the patches from your 0.0.2 release. ok > Now that I've got the patches in place, I get a stable desktop display > on the TV.

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:03:23AM +0400, Goga777 wrote: > does your project actually fro dvb 720p channels too ? 720p is 1280x720. At least the part that does the frame rate sync VGA<->DVB can be recycled for this. > and I have may be stupid question - why frame rate from satellites is not > s

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:21:25PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: > overall comp floats -1 to 2, but sync point floats -44 to +45, and > drift speed floats -40 to +40. ta absolute + clipped are 5 -> 7. I find that's pretty good. Same values here. > it odd that my 'vbls' value is 15500 when yours is

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 07:40:15PM +0300, Jouni Karvo wrote: > with NVIDIA driver 169 and 173 at least, this does not yet work: I cannot confirm that. I just downloaded and installed most recent NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12.pkg1.run It's running perfectly VGA->SCART with *exactly* the xorg.conf I

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 04:44:59PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > that made me wonder if it would be possible to make these patches friendly > enough to get them accepted upstream :) sorry - but I really can't care about this at the current state of development _

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:50:43AM +0300, Jouni Karvo wrote: > your trick is the VGA->SCART cable. I was using the TVout from the > card. I have ordered the components for the cable, and I hope I'll be > able to solder them together during the weekend. I hope I can then > reproduce your succe

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 09:09:45PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: > OK, found a suitable recording, and after a couple of 'play 1 begin' to > SVDRP it starts OK. The picture is pretty good, but it still shifts > around the screen a bit: that's because PLL encounters very large increments of 'sync poin

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:15:58PM +0300, Petri Hintukainen wrote: > to, 2008-08-14 kello 11:25 +0200, Thomas Hilber kirjoitti: > > Does the Xserver poll for some resources not available or something? > > Maybe the driver is waiting for free overlay buffer ? Some drivers wait >

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:22:53PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > Since you're using the vsync irq in any case, the best solution would > be to notify user space at irq time that it should 'PutImage' a new > frame. I know what you want to say. But according to my understanding xine has it's ow

Re: [vdr] [PATCH] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 02:22:46PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: > [1] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core > The following packages have unmet dependencies. > xserver-xorg: Depends: x11-xkb-utils but it is not going to be > installed > PreDepends: x1

[vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vga-sync-fields 0.0.3

2008-08-15 Thread Thomas Hilber
Hi list, the basic function of this patch has already been disussed in thread 'RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate'. A new version of the patch is now available at http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields 2008-08-14: Version 0.0.3 - added a patch that enhances standard radeonfb kernel driver to u

[vdr] [ANNOUNCE] vga-sync-fields 0.0.4

2008-08-17 Thread Thomas Hilber
Hi list, A new version of the patch is now available at http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields 2008-08-17: Version 0.0.4 - now widened time window for double buffer updates from 20ms to 40ms. This is done via drm-ioctl() though the chip doesn't provide a native interface for this. - this greatly

Re: [vdr] PCI fun (RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate)

2008-08-17 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 04:31:58PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: > CPU usage rather than userspace. Due to the critical timing nature of > the patches, they need to have nearly the whole machine to themselves, the patches are time critical as far as xine itself must time the frames very accurately.

Re: [vdr] PCI fun (RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate)

2008-08-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 03:08:14PM +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote: > I found this to be useful for me, however I'm using [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not > NTSC > colour encoding. > > http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/video_card_configuration.html > > Nice background information. Righ

[vdr] [PATCH] vga-sync-fields 0.0.8

2008-09-08 Thread Thomas Hilber
A new version of the patch 'vga-sync-fields-0.0.8.tgz' now is available at: http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields History since last version announced here: 2008-09-08: Version 0.0.8 - enhanced a standalone tool for testing the Soft-PLL without xine-lib and Xserver - a fix in xineliboutput config

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-09-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
a successor of my vga-sync-fields patch (http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/) now has been released by 'durchflieger' on 'vdr-portal.de' with far more functionality especially for HDTV related things. please see: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=80567 - sparkie

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-09-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 02:55:31PM +, Bruno wrote: > Not at all. Because it?s a good motivation to learn one more language :) the primary intention of the patch was not a German language lesson I think:) the patch itself is written in C and the README is in English. Cheers Thomas

Re: [vdr] Options for deinterlacing (or not)

2009-01-20 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 05:21:53PM +, Tony Houghton wrote: > Varying the output frame rate to keep in sync with the input stream is > very clever, but I don't understand how it solves the problem of > distinguishing between top and bottom fields to sync to. surely you can distinguish top and b

Re: [vdr] Options for deinterlacing (or not)

2009-01-20 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 03:22:15PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > Does it work with 915 hardware as well? Yup, a few days ago I successfully testet the patch on my Asus EEE 701. Even replaying interlaced SD content the 900MHz CPU idles at about 60%. Please see table at http://www.vdr-portal.de/bo

Re: [vdr] Options for deinterlacing (or not)

2009-01-20 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 04:23:59PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > Ok, I have this hardware; > http://www.silentpcreview.com/article311-page1.html an asus mainboard > i915ga-hfs, with 915G graphics and onboard YPbPr and DVI outputs. I figure > with some tweaking, it should be possible to run pu

Re: [vdr] Options for deinterlacing (or not)

2009-01-21 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:55:19PM +0100, Nicolas Huillard wrote: > Is the below rough summary correct ? > > What it currently is : > * a patch set to DRM kernel modules, xine-lib and xineliboutput ...not to forget the Xserver-DDX (hardware specific module) itself. For pre-avivo Radeons you need

Re: [vdr] Options for deinterlacing (or not)

2009-01-21 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 05:07:40PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > I think someone should step ahead and help with the english docs.. > unfortunately I can't do that atm, too busy with other things.. after travelling over 5 weeks in Australia this now is my major problem too:-) _

Re: [vdr] Options for deinterlacing (or not)

2009-01-21 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 04:03:37PM +, Tony Houghton wrote: > It is excellent, but I can't help thinking it's come a bit too late. not if it comes to HDTV. Basically it should be feasible to recycle some of the ideas there. BTW I wanted to prove that simple graphics hardware together with low

Re: [vdr] Options for deinterlacing (or not)

2009-01-22 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:07:57PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > It looks like the patch references a version of the driver that > supports OPTION_RENDERACCEL, but v 2.3.2 doesn't support that. Which > version of the driver is the patch for? as described in http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thre

Re: [vdr] vdpau output to pal tv,

2009-02-16 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:48:50PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > > On 16 Feb 2009, at 23:29, Tony Houghton wrote: > > > And if the video has to be scaled it would have to scale each field > > separately then reinterlace them line-by-line at the output resolution @Tony Houghton: is it really poss

Re: [vdr] vdpau output to pal tv,

2009-02-16 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 09:05:04PM +, Tony Houghton wrote: > > not sure about this. Intel series i9xx graphics is able to scale by > > hardware even in interlaced mode. I use this feature for my intel based > > frame rate control patches (SCART/RGB/PAL vga-sync-fields patch). > > VDPAU is curr

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set (was: Re: Options for deinterlacing (or not))

2009-02-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 01:35:01PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > Is there a homepage for the VGA2SCART patch set with information about > it? A repository? due to lack of time and interest I do not yet run a full blown homepage. But at least I started to collect the plain patches here [3]. > There

Re: [vdr] [OT] Questions to VGA2SCART cable

2009-02-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 02:51:05PM +, Tony Houghton wrote: > I'm not sure whether C Scheeder is right, but it seems highly likely. Christoph is right. The buyable cables operate the wrong direction for our purposes. > Different cards need diffeernt types of cable. For example ATI and > Matrox

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-02-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:12:36AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > > due to lack of time and interest I do not yet run a full blown homepage. > > But at least I started to collect the plain patches here [3]. > > That is what I thought. So maybe other people who are not good or > intersted in coding co

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-02-28 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 08:04:17PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > > Why don't you just use the easy-vdr install script I mentioned above > > which already has been proven successful? > > I just checked it out. But the main problem in distribution is, that > everyone has to register to be able to dow

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-02-28 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 01:13:32AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > > In general I would have no objections against this. What kind of patches > > is this all about? I haven't followed this VGA2SCART thing, but a quick > > lookup showed, that this involves patching XOrg stuff and xineliboutput. > > Tha

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-03-01 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 04:09:23PM +0100, Jan Willies wrote: > It's a binary driver, so I don't think you can patch anything there. exactly. But many nVidia chips are VGA2SCART capable (without FRC of course) directly with the binary driver. Just a proper xorg.conf is needed. - Thomas

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-03-01 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 12:33:48AM +0300, Goga777 wrote: > please - could you point out please on proper xorg.conf you'll find one attached. I use it on my Asus Pundit P1_AH2. System is quite old (but stable): debian etch based xserver-xorg 7.1.0-19 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19 more recent systems

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:03:12AM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Hmm.. so you get 50 Hz interlaced output with this xorg.conf. > > Are you able to sync to each field separately? of course not on nVidia graphics. They haven't offered their specs for us to implement that. But nevertheless this

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 06:43:00PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > Reading your README I assume you are familiar with Git. Therefore I > choose it as a backend. Thank you for your effort so far. I have no special preferences here. GIT or CVS is ok for me. Concerning the wiki: I would prefer a neutra

Re: [vdr] [OT] development infrastructur for VGA2SCART patch set

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 01:19:53PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > > Concerning the wiki: I would prefer a neutral domain > > Sure. I had no other domain handy. Your domain name could also be used, > if you set up DNS this way (vga2scart.lowbyte.de) or we register some > free domain name vga2scart.de.

Re: [vdr] DVD autoplay

2009-03-06 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 10:43:08PM +0100, Petric Frank wrote: > i'm looking for a plugin or method to automatically display a > play/stop/eject/... menu on the on the screen when a DVD is entered into the > drive. Also a possible autoplay DVD via vdr ould be a good idea. first you have to detect

Re: [vdr] [VGA sync field] question to fb-radeon-intel.patch

2009-03-12 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 06:15:04PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > 1. In your patchset the patch fb-radeon-intel.patch [1] does include > changes to drivers/video/intelfb/intelfbhw.c although in the install > instructions [2] it is stated that intel drivers do not need to be > modified. sorry, install

Re: [vdr] [VGA sync field] question to fb-radeon-intel.patch

2009-03-12 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 06:31:47PM +0100, Thomas Hilber wrote: > > a) Why is MIN_CLOCK set to 25000 in intelfbhw.h [3]? What would be the > > downside of setting it to 1? > > MIN_CLOCK is set to 12000 by the patch. What allows for SCART suitable > dotclocks. I don&#x

Re: [vdr] [VGA sync field] question to fb-radeon-intel.patch

2009-03-12 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 07:36:01PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > I hope, you have seen my message to linux-fbdev-devel [1]. I will try to > do what Krzysztof suggested, but will have to read more about that. > Maybe we get it into Linux kernel 2.6.30. yeah, I've seen that. > Should we continue dis

Re: [vdr] [VGA sync field] question to fb-radeon-intel.patch

2009-03-12 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 07:36:53PM +0100, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > Did you look into making your approach work with DirectFB yet? I don't think it's a big deal to port the Intel version of the FRC patch to DirectFB. But sorry, I don't use DirectFB. I can't see much advantage over a plain Xserver u

Re: [vdr] [FRC] Why are patches for framebuffer not needed anymore in release 0.1.0?

2009-03-29 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:21:18AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > you released version 0.1.0 [1]. Could you please explain to me, why the > framebuffer patches (intelfb, radeonfb) are not needed anymore? since version 0.1.0 you will not need DRM from GIT anymore. You just can use DRM as provided by t

Re: [vdr] [FRC] Why are patches for framebuffer not needed anymore in release 0.1.0?

2009-03-29 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:32:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Does Lenny have some extra patches in the kernel, or does it work with all > vanilla 2.6.26+ kernels? for sure has Lenny some extra patches in the kernel. But probably they don't interfere with the vga-sync-fields (FRC) patch. I m

Re: [vdr] FRC plugin (was - xineliboutput GIT mirror)

2009-04-19 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:54:15PM +0200, Tobi wrote: > the graphcis card drivers and so on. It just started, so don't expect much > content yet. the GIT repos for FRC/VGA2SCART still must be cloned this way: git clone git://vga2scart.gw90.de/git/vga2scart FRC/VGA2SCART WIKI can be found here [1

Re: [vdr] Any really working HD video output systems for VDR?

2009-06-05 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:17:54AM +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote: > It would mean that no judder and studder on HD-quality. With VDPAU > the problem still might be "50Hz vs 50.02Hz" -thing so you cannot get > frame accurate display. With every 5 seconds you might have duplicated > di

Re: [vdr] Any really working HD video output systems for VDR?

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:34:09AM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: > Could you test your boards with HD-material, for example some movie > trailers? Could you please share your results, what resolutions are no way to play HD-material with this board > So is the following summary correct? The hardware i

Re: [vdr] HD clients for vdr

2009-08-22 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:31:43AM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: > In my experience, you just have to do deinterlacing in vdpau with > interlaced content, even when displaying on an interlaced display. If > you try to output interlaced material directly, you get ghosting since > the weaved frames are

Re: [vdr] HD clients for vdr

2009-08-22 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 01:12:43PM +0400, Goga777 wrote: > is it possible to solve radically this problem with vdpau ? did you discuss > with nvidia developpers about this > issue ? I don't know if nvidia hardware is capable of such things at all. This issue (among others) once has been discuss

Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-08-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 03:40:25PM +0100, dave cunningham wrote: > If I'm reading the patches correctly it seems that the ATI chips can > currently do 720x576 only, where the Intel chips can be configured for > 1440x576 and 1600x1200 only. for VGA2SCART (without FRC) Intel chips can be setup for 7

Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-08-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:14:22AM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Hmm.. why without? FRC doesn't work on Intel @ 720x576i ? 720x576i and 1440x576i are both SCART/PAL resolutions with a line frequency of 15.625kHz. VGA2SCART+FRC on Intel requires 1440x576i. VGA2SCART+FRC on ATI also runs directly

Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-08-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:44:59AM +0100, dave cunningham wrote: > Do standard CRTs handle this increased resolution/clock? I've never tried > driving this signal into my TV. I haven't experienced any problems even with very old TVs caused by the higher video signal bandwidth. > In fact I use the

Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-09-07 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 12:16:30AM +0100, dave cunningham wrote: > I've finally tried to get this up and running with the patched Intel > xserver on a D945GCLF2 atom board (I see from your readme that you've > tried this configuration so assume it should work). right, works very well > The de

Re: [vdr] FRC - RGB/Scart with the Intel 830 driver

2009-09-09 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:08:39PM +0100, dave cunningham wrote: > Same behaviour with your xorg.conf unfortunately. I've heard there are some buggy intel-DDXes floating around. I don't know which one you use. A possible workaround is do add SubSection "Display" Virtual

Re: [vdr] vdpau experience

2009-10-24 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 01:22:42PM +0200, Helmut Auer wrote: > xineliboutput is a bit more difficult, because the cvs is changing nearly > daily, so there is > currently no patch available, but it should work without patches. where is the problem? Just do an cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonym...@xinelib

Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:36:34PM +0200, Matthias Fechner wrote: > hm, here you are right. > Does anyone knows if the POV mainboard > (http://www.pointofview-online.com/showroom.php?shop_mode=product_detail&product_id=97) > > works with the VGA2SCART adapter? AFAIK all more recent (aka VDPAU

Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins (was: VDR with 50Hz clock output)

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:59:52AM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: > I found an updated diagram at [1]. I hope it is what you wanted. > > [1] http://crashme.cx/vdr-portal-picts/VGA_SCART_RGB_NEWER.png this is just a full blown schematic with charge pump circuit to provide up to 11V at SCART pin 8. If y

Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:46:54PM +0200, Matthias Fechner wrote: > thanks, that are great news (but in the README only the ATI and Intel > cards are mentioned :) ). right. The circuit was just a byproduct for the vga-sync-fields project. > ok, so you can use +5V from an USB port which I need for

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:13:56AM +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote: > Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz > outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output > as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not synchronized to output framerate.

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:16:37PM +0300, Prelude wrote: > I have suffered this annoying judder in both live and recording viewing. > My config_xineliboutput: http://pastebin.com/kxe7RvX0 > xorg.xonf: http://pastebin.com/6fCvWvxU sorry, from that configuration alone I can't tell you what's going

Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:06:51PM +0100, Tony Houghton wrote: > Are you aware of the interaction between DynamicTwinView and XRandR? The no. But if Xorg.0.log tells me (in the bad case): (II) NVIDIA(0): Validating Mode "1920x1080": (II) NVIDIA(0): 1920 x 1080 @ 50 Hz (II) NVIDIA(0): Fo

Re: [vdr] Xorg displaying 50 Hz but uses 60 Hz with Nvidia driver (was: Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.)

2010-08-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 04:31:28PM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: > Do you know if it has been reported to Nvidia? I think the X.org people > would not look at it, since you use the proprietary driver. I dont't know if especially this problem has been reported to nVidia. There are heaps of error repor

Re: [vdr] Xorg displaying 50 Hz but uses 60 Hz with Nvidia driver

2010-08-26 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:23:22PM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: > Thomas, having just > > VertRefresh 50.0 > > in your `xorg.conf`, did you measure the 60 Hz directly at the output or > were you just saying the tools reported 60 Hz? without specifying the modeline directly in xorg.conf (t

Re: [vdr] Deinterlace video (was: Replacing aging VDR for DVB-S2)

2011-01-21 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:42:40PM +, Stuart Morris wrote: > conversion and then draw the first field to the frame buffer. At the next > vertical sync the shader would convert the second field and draw that to > the frame buffer. With VDPAU is there a new OpenGL interop function that that's no