Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Like I said ... with a filter (at the MTA level, system-wide) that adds something like "x-spam:" to the headers, users could do the filtering in their MUAs. Robert J Adams wrote: > Per user enable/disable would me much nicer than doing it "per host". Some > people have a valid reason to not want

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Robert J Adams
TECTED]> To: "Robert J Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:39 AM Subject: Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering > Why bother? > > cf. rblsmtpd for the entire host > > or cf. rblcheck for .procmailrc's ... >

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Robert J Adams
dul,relays,outputs.orbs.org,relays.orbs.org -j - Original Message - From: "Brian Kolaci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brian Clare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering &g

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
> > I use it -- I know how it works. However, I only block RBL hosts this > > way -- I allow the other messages through because of poor listings on > > the RSS, etc. and would appreciate a tool that just added such a mail > > header as I suggested. > > I don't want to start one of t

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Ben Beuchler wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 01:17:36PM -0500, Michael T. Babcock wrote: > > > I use it -- I know how it works. However, I only block RBL hosts this > > way -- I allow the other messages through because of poor listings on > > the RSS, etc. and would appreciate a tool that just

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Ben Beuchler
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 01:17:36PM -0500, Michael T. Babcock wrote: > I use it -- I know how it works. However, I only block RBL hosts this > way -- I allow the other messages through because of poor listings on > the RSS, etc. and would appreciate a tool that just added such a mail > header as

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
> > It appears you assume that there is mail received > > to attach headers to. > > There is mail, if you use rblcheck instead (which is what I suggested). Ahh, but I would like to stop the spammers before they even get the mail through and chew up resources (memory, disk, etc.). > >

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Brian Kolaci wrote: > It appears you assume that there is mail received > to attach headers to. There is mail, if you use rblcheck instead (which is what I suggested). > rblsmtpd uses the lists which contain IP addresses > of SMTP servers. It rejects them before *anything* > happens. This is

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
It appears you assume that there is mail received to attache headers to. rblsmtpd uses the lists which contain IP addresses of SMTP servers. It rejects them before *anything* happens. This is the intended behaviour of most of this spam prevention, to limit the amount of resources used. I was

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Why not set a header value instead, like: x-spamcheck: rbl,rss ... that the user can filter on ... Brian Kolaci wrote: > I've had the request to allow on a per-user, per-domain > basis to either bounce or allow spam through. This may > be an underlying request he had. > > I've started this, b

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Ben Beuchler
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:43:27AM -0500, Brian Kolaci wrote: > My approach was to update rblsmtbd.c to instead of bounce > the mail, set an environment variable. Then in qmail-smtpd, > you can check the envelope and selectivly bounce it or not, > depending on the contents in a new control file.

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Brian Kolaci
AIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering > That would be a great addition I guess, but once setup in qmail, isn't > it working for all domains? > > Robert J Adams wrote: > > > > Hello all, &

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Chris Scheller
> setting it up with/in qmail (tcpserver) should so do - imo it does do quite well. using RBL/DUL/RSS on our servers. Just follow setup in qmail documentation, no special vpopmail config is required. Chris Scheller Network One Internet, inc. http://www.networkone.net/ System/Network Administrati

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Why bother? cf. rblsmtpd for the entire host or cf. rblcheck for .procmailrc's ... Robert J Adams wrote: > I was thinking about hacking in the ability to bounce spam based on RBL, > ORBs etc into vpopmail.. Is anyone working on this? The idea is to have it > user selectable.. anyone else inter

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Matthias Henze
setting it up with/in qmail (tcpserver) should so do - imo At 10:37 06.11.00 -0600, Brian Clare wrote: >That would be a great addition I guess, but once setup in qmail, isn't >it working for all domains? > >Robert J Adams wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > I was thinking about hacking in the abili

Re: RBL, ORBs etc filtering

2000-11-06 Thread Brian Clare
That would be a great addition I guess, but once setup in qmail, isn't it working for all domains? Robert J Adams wrote: > > Hello all, > > I was thinking about hacking in the ability to bounce spam based on RBL, > ORBs etc into vpopmail.. Is anyone working on this? The idea is to have it > us