[vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-12 Thread Paul L. Allen
Hi Anders Anders Brander writes: > Extra security? I've always hated the vpopmail model, "all users are one > user" It has advantages and disavantages. It means that vpopmail runs under a dedicated user and group without (at the moment) any need for set-id. IMAP and POP servers do need setuid

Re: [vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-12 Thread Anders Brander
Hi Paul and others, On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 14:32, Paul L. Allen wrote: > > IMHO it's the correct (tm) way to do things. It's not just a fiddle, > > it's the best solution. I would say that the setuid-thing is a fiddle. > I think which way you regard as a fiddle depends very much upon what you > do

[vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-12 Thread Paul L. Allen
Hi Anders Anders Brander writes: > IMHO it's the correct (tm) way to do things. It's not just a fiddle, > it's the best solution. I would say that the setuid-thing is a fiddle. I think which way you regard as a fiddle depends very much upon what you do on your system. > I think we confused ea

Re: [vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-12 Thread Anders Brander
Hi, Phew, this mail is getting longer and longer... On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 04:23, Paul L. Allen wrote: > > > It could get rather unwieldy if you use MySQL for other things. > > Why? > Just a gut feeling that if you have many MySQL users for one purpose > and many more MySQL users who are there pur

[vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-11 Thread Paul L. Allen
Anders Brander writes: > > It could get rather unwieldy if you use MySQL for other things. > > Why? Just a gut feeling that if you have many MySQL users for one purpose and many more MySQL users who are there purely as a fiddle to allow vpopmail to work then it could make life difficult to dist

Re: [vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-11 Thread Anders Brander
Hi, On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 03:16, Paul L. Allen wrote: > > If you add a special group to every user you are back where you started. > I didn't say it was a good solution. I said it was a solution. Compared > to that, a lot of the alternatives look good. Agree, alternatives are better. > > I can

[vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-11 Thread Paul L. Allen
Anders Brander writes: > If you add a special group to every user you are back where you started. I didn't say it was a good solution. I said it was a solution. Compared to that, a lot of the alternatives look good. > I can't see what's wrong with a mysql user per system user. That would > be

Re: [vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-11 Thread Anders Brander
Hi, On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 01:17, Paul L. Allen wrote: > > This is an interesting point and I'd love to find a clean solution to > > this issue. > I don't think you'll find a clean solution which doesn't involve set-id. > All the others are messy to administer, like a MySQL username per system > u

[vchkpw] Re: courier-imap / sql files

2003-09-11 Thread Paul L. Allen
Tom Collins writes: > This is an interesting point and I'd love to find a clean solution to > this issue. I don't think you'll find a clean solution which doesn't involve set-id. All the others are messy to administer, like a MySQL username per system user or adding a special group to every use