Re: [Uta] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-smtp-require-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-07-30 Thread Jim Fenton
On 7/17/19 12:18 PM, Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker wrote: > -- > DISCUSS: > -- > > I'm glad that we were able to come to consensus to rename the header > field t

Re: [Uta] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-smtp-require-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-07-30 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 04:11:36PM -0700, Jim Fenton wrote: > On 7/17/19 12:18 PM, Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker wrote: > > > -- > > DISCUSS: > > -- > > > > I'm

Re: [Uta] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-smtp-require-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-07-30 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 07:02:23PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > This work was inspired by a paper, "Neither Snow Nor Rain Nor MITM ...An > > Empirical Analysis of Email Delivery Security" > > http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/imc/2015/papers/p27.pdf that there was a > > presentation about at an

Re: [Uta] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-smtp-require-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-07-30 Thread Jim Fenton
On 7/30/19 5:02 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 04:11:36PM -0700, Jim Fenton wrote: On 7/17/19 12:18 PM, Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker wrote: The following paragraph (unchanged from my ballot on -07) received only minimal discussion so far: I'm also concerned about the appar