Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-22 Thread Marcus Müller via USRP-users
Hi Nirmala, On 22.10.2017 18:22, Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > I have no idea why you said that but I certainly did not mean to > directly take the values that Marcus L mentioned and straight away add > it in my report!. Since I am just learning about SDR, I just wan

[USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-22 Thread Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users
Hi Marcus, I have no idea why you said that but I certainly did not mean to directly take the values that Marcus L mentioned and straight away add it in my report!. Since I am just learning about SDR, I just wanted an idea of what could be the minimum power levels that an SDR receiver can fairly c

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-22 Thread Marcus Müller via USRP-users
Niemals, > The "faintest reasonable signal level" that a typical SDR can process!  > (Typically  around -120  to  -130 dBm).!   no! You can process much weaker signals, too, given enough processing gain. Marcus was just giving an example. Whether you can "see" what is in the air depends on the

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-21 Thread Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users
Thanks for a very good explanation on power levels Marcus. Actually I think I got the answer to what I was looking for. The "faintest reasonable signal level" that a typical SDR can process! (Typically around -120 to -130 dBm).! In my application, I have a bunch of channels through which I can

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-21 Thread Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users
On 10/21/2017 11:59 AM, Kevin McGuire via USRP-users wrote: My knowledge is limited, therefore, read this with a grain of salt. However, I wanted to try to help and if something I say does not make sense then double-check it or someone else may come along and correct me. I had this same proble

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-21 Thread Kevin McGuire via USRP-users
My knowledge is limited, therefore, read this with a grain of salt. However, I wanted to try to help and if something I say does not make sense then double-check it or someone else may come along and correct me. I had this same problem when I started with these types of systems. I had trouble unde

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-21 Thread Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users
On 10/21/2017 09:20 AM, Marcus Müller via USRP-users wrote: Hi Nirmala, I'm confused, so what *calibrated measurement device* did you use to get "-80 dbm to -100 dbm"? As Marcus L has pointed out, the values you get from the USRP are *not* relative to a physical unit. Please simply don't th

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-21 Thread Marcus Müller via USRP-users
Hi Nirmala, I'm confused, so what *calibrated measurement device* did you use to get "-80 dbm to -100 dbm"? As Marcus L has pointed out, the values you get from the USRP are *not* relative to a physical unit. Please simply don't think the plots that *any* software gives you have something to do w

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-19 Thread Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users
On 10/18/2017 01:47 PM, Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users wrote: Yeah got it! But don't you think the tool has those capabilities to consider the entire chain and then display the output? Since I don't have actual spectrum analyzer in the lab I am forced to use the software spectrum analyz

[USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-19 Thread Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users
Hi Konstantin and Mike, In fact I started with 0 gains for both transmitter and receiver with different amplitudes of input signal. The received power is always in the range of -80 dbm to -100 dbm. I am not sure how to say that a certain received power (in dbm) 'is acceptable' when given an input

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-18 Thread Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users
Yeah got it! But don't you think the tool has those capabilities to consider the entire chain and then display the output? Since I don't have actual spectrum analyzer in the lab I am forced to use the software spectrum analyzer. The initial phase is to first confirm that the transmit and receive

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-18 Thread Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users
0dBm is the maximum power that is recommended to prevent damage to the hardware. But the actual response of the entire signal processing chain, including variable-gain elements, the ADCs, and such, cannot simply be "modeled" in such a simple manner. In order to map the digital-domain results bac

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-18 Thread Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users
Hi Marcus, I made a simple model using Matlab Simulink and used spectrum analyser block to observe the transmitted and received waveform. Since 0 dbm was the maximum input power, I just calculated (input volatge)^2 / 2. It comes to 0.045V. I specified block parameters and gave different values.

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-18 Thread Neel Pandeya via USRP-users
Also note that at 0 dBm, you're at the maximum safe input power, so your received signal might be saturated. --Neel Pandeya On Oct 17, 2017 22:30, "Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users" < usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:08 AM, Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users wrote: > Hi all,

Re: [USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-17 Thread Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users
On 10/18/2017 12:08 AM, Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users wrote: Hi all, I am trying to transmit and receive a simple 10 kHz tone using a single USRP B205mini-i. The input power is 0 dbm ( The amplitude of 10kHz tone being 45mV). The transmitting and receiver antenna are same omnidirection

[USRP-users] interpretation of received signal

2017-10-17 Thread Nirmala Soundararajan via USRP-users
Hi all, I am trying to transmit and receive a simple 10 kHz tone using a single USRP B205mini-i. The input power is 0 dbm ( The amplitude of 10kHz tone being 45mV). The transmitting and receiver antenna are same omnidirectional type each having 3 dbi gain. I set the transmitter gain as 8 and recei