Re: [EXTERNAL] Tomcat stderr/stdout to console

2024-10-23 Thread Chuck Caldarale
should be able to use something like tail to echo the access log file to a terminal window. - Chuck > > From: Chuck Caldarale > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:34 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Tomcat stderr/stdout to console > > > > O

Re: Tomcat stderr/stdout to console

2024-10-22 Thread Chuck Caldarale
> On Oct 22, 2024, at 19:19, Amit Pande wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am looking for way to print certain logs from Tomcat to actual console > (stdout) instead of getting those redirected to Catalina.out (default). > > e.g. messages like below (and errors failed to deploy any application) if ca

Tomcat stderr/stdout to console

2024-10-22 Thread Amit Pande
Hello all, I am looking for way to print certain logs from Tomcat to actual console (stdout) instead of getting those redirected to Catalina.out (default). e.g. messages like below (and errors failed to deploy any application) if can be redirected to console, it would avoid looking up into Cata

http2 warnings "unknown setting" are filling up the stderr

2022-02-26 Thread Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)
Hello, my stderr of tomcat is filling up with the following warning: org.apache.coyote.http2.ConnectionSettingsBase.set Connection [40], An unknown setting with identifier [2147483647] and value [725733055] was ignored It is related to http2 and is caused by Chrome (version 98 currently in use

catalina.out on AWS Linux 2 (resolved) (was: stdout / stderr on AWS Linux)

2020-03-09 Thread Jerry Malcolm
area to figure this out. Jerry On 3/9/2020 4:58 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jerry, On 3/9/20 16:35, Jerry Malcolm wrote: On 3/3/2020 2:45 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: Jerry, On 3/3/20 11:46, Jerry Malcolm wrote: Where are the stdout and std

Re: stdout / stderr on AWS Linux

2020-03-09 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jerry, On 3/9/20 16:35, Jerry Malcolm wrote: > On 3/3/2020 2:45 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: Jerry, > > On 3/3/20 11:46, Jerry Malcolm wrote: >>>> Where are the stdout and stderr log files written for tomcat >>>>

Re: stdout / stderr on AWS Linux

2020-03-09 Thread Jerry Malcolm
On 3/3/2020 2:45 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jerry, On 3/3/20 11:46, Jerry Malcolm wrote: Where are the stdout and stderr log files written for tomcat in AWS Linux? Are you talking about a Tomcat installed from the package-manager (yum), or

Re: stdout / stderr on AWS Linux

2020-03-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jerry, On 3/3/20 11:46, Jerry Malcolm wrote: > Where are the stdout and stderr log files written for tomcat in > AWS Linux? Are you talking about a Tomcat installed from the package-manager (yum), or one you installed yourself from

Re: stdout / stderr on AWS Linux

2020-03-03 Thread calder
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 11:59 AM calder wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 10:46 Jerry Malcolm wrote: >> >> Where are the stdout and stderr log files written for tomcat in AWS >> Linux? On windows, they are just part of the logs folder. But in AWS >> Linux /var/log/Tom

Re: stdout / stderr on AWS Linux

2020-03-03 Thread calder
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 10:46 Jerry Malcolm wrote: > Where are the stdout and stderr log files written for tomcat in AWS > Linux? On windows, they are just part of the logs folder. But in AWS > Linux /var/log/Tomcat I get all of the other log files. But no > stdout/stderr. Most of

stdout / stderr on AWS Linux

2020-03-03 Thread Jerry Malcolm
Where are the stdout and stderr log files written for tomcat in AWS Linux?  On windows, they are just part of the logs folder. But in AWS Linux /var/log/Tomcat I get all of the other log files.  But no stdout/stderr.  Most of the info is also in Catalina.out.  But just curious where stdout and

Re: Stderr and Stdout Log Rotation on Tomcat 6.0 on Windows

2014-08-20 Thread Christopher Schultz
FAQ, user forum and article but no one seems to > have any clue on this. > > I use 64-bit Tomcat 6.0.39 as a Windows service on Windows 2008 R2 > x64Standard. > > Tomcat keeps writing to the same stdout and stderr log files > without any log rotation until the service is res

Re: Stderr and Stdout Log Rotation on Tomcat 6.0 on Windows

2014-08-20 Thread Björn Raupach
Hi Kristof, tell your developer to use a logging framework instead of System.out You can't get rid of stoud and stderr log files, but they should be empty - most of the time. cheers, Björn On 20 Aug 2014, at 13:51 , Kristof Can Bilen wrote: > Hello all, > > I’m running a Tom

Stderr and Stdout Log Rotation on Tomcat 6.0 on Windows

2014-08-20 Thread Kristof Can Bilen
2008 R2 x64Standard. Tomcat keeps writing to the same stdout and stderr log files without any log rotation until the service is restarted. Because of this, the stdout and stderr log files become quite large in time and it becomes difficult to open/read logs. My aim is to never restart the T

Re: Tomcat 7.0.52/stdout & stderr not created

2014-02-20 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2014-02-21 0:56 GMT+04:00 Petr Nemecek : > Hello, > > I've been using Tomcat 7.0.47 on Windows Server 2012 R2. > > Today I tried to update to 7.0.52, but had a problem, that even if the > configurations seem to be the same, *stdout*.log and *stderr*.log are not >

Tomcat 7.0.52/stdout & stderr not created

2014-02-20 Thread Petr Nemecek
Hello, I've been using Tomcat 7.0.47 on Windows Server 2012 R2. Today I tried to update to 7.0.52, but had a problem, that even if the configurations seem to be the same, *stdout*.log and *stderr*.log are not created on logs folder for 7.0.52. In 7.0.47 (and previous versions) this w

Re: stderr

2011-12-12 Thread Christopher Schultz
to using > logging.properties file. Everything works like I expected except > for one thing. It appears that all output from all loggers still > gets copied to stderr log file. That may be the default behavior for java.util.logging when there is no logging.properties file. (I really don&#

stderr

2011-12-12 Thread Jerry Malcolm
output from all loggers still gets copied to stderr log file. I went in to the conf/logging.properties file and changed everything to "ERROR". No change. (BTW... I'm on Tomcat 7). This is not a big deal. But the stderr file gets huge really fast. And it doesn't roll over at mi

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-11 Thread Thomas Kloeber
d the discussion correctly, Tomcat redirects stderr into stdout_XXX.log, right? Strange though, that I couldn't find my stack trace when I ran exception.printStackTrace(). Either this goes to yet another place, which I can't believe or I must have completely missed in, which I can't quite

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-10 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
cussion correctly, Tomcat redirects stderr into > stdout_XXX.log, right? > > Strange though, that I couldn't find my stack trace when I ran > exception.printStackTrace(). > Either this goes to yet another place, which I can't believe or I must have > completely mis

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-10 Thread Thomas Kloeber
Konstantin, Konstantin Kolinko wrote on 11.01.2011 01:03: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18462 thanks for sending this link. I'm surprised that this is such an old issue! So, if I understand the discussion correctly, Tomcat redirects stderr into stdout_XXX.log,

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-10 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18462 2011/1/7 Jeffrey Janner : > I've noticed that stderr is almost always empty on Windows, unless you get an > OOM error.  That will show up there. > Could it possibly be getting routed to another log file? Or eaten by the JV

RE: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-07 Thread Jeffrey Janner
I've noticed that stderr is almost always empty on Windows, unless you get an OOM error. That will show up there. Could it possibly be getting routed to another log file? Or eaten by the JVM? Is this one of those swalloutOutput instances? Someone else might be able to answer. From: T

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-07 Thread Thomas Kloeber
Jeffrey Janner wrote on 07.01.2011 16:00: You assumption in the original post is wrong. <mailto:users@tomcat.apache.org>okay, I thought I'd seen something like what I assumed... So it brings me back to my original question of this thread: where does my stderr go, if it does no

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, On 1/7/2011 6:58 AM, Thomas Kloeber wrote: > This must have fallen into the "Christmas/New Year Hole"... ;) I think so :) > Some additional info, which I just saw and which looks strange to me: > the stdout_XXX.log doesn't change it's date.

RE: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-07 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Thomas – You assumption in the original post is wrong. Jeff From: Thomas Kloeber [mailto:kloe...@ics.de] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 5:59 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Where does my stderr go? This must have fallen into the "Christmas/New Year Hole"... ;) Anybody out there c

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2011-01-07 Thread Thomas Kloeber
This must have fallen into the "Christmas/New Year Hole"... ;) Anybody out there can help me with my stderr etc issue? Thomas PS: happy new year to all... Original Message Subject:Re: Where does my stderr go? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:35:14 +0100 From

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-22 Thread Thomas Kloeber
-22. I was under the impression that Tomcat automatically closes the file at midnight and creates a new one with the appr. date... That is service runner (Apache Commons Daemon) that manages those stdout, stderr files. http://commons.apache.org/daemon/ Tomcat itself has nothing to do with them. BT

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-22 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
impression that Tomcat > automatically closes the file at midnight and creates a new one with the > appr. date... That is service runner (Apache Commons Daemon) that manages those stdout, stderr files. http://commons.apache.org/daemon/ Tomcat itself has nothing to do with them. BTW, why are not yo

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-22 Thread Thomas Kloeber
Some additional info, which I just saw and which looks strange to me: the stdout_XXX.log doesn't change it's date. That is to say that I have stdout_20101221.log which also contains log entries from today, 12-22. I was under the impression that Tomcat automatically closes the file at midnight an

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-21 Thread Thomas Kloeber
André Warnier wrote on 21.12.2010 21:50: And if, in the tomcat6w.exe gui, you navigate to the "Java" tab, what are the options mentioned there for the JVM ? (There might be a "-D" there which redirects the JVM stderr) (which is really the stderr you are looking for here

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-21 Thread André Warnier
ch redirects the JVM stderr) (which is really the stderr you are looking for here). Is there a system property that redirects stderr? I thought there was, but I may be wrong. There is one which allows to set the directory for temporary files, I'm quite sure. And in the IBM java, I saw &

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 12/21/2010 3:50 PM, André Warnier wrote: > And if, in the tomcat6w.exe gui, you navigate to the "Java" tab, what > are the options mentioned there for the JVM ? > (There might be a "-D" there which redire

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-21 Thread André Warnier
uding full path, for the "Redirect Stdout" and "Redirect Stderr" settings, and make sure that the effective user running the Tomcat service (TOMCAT? LOCAL_SERVICE?) has rights to write to that file/directory. this is exactly what I did on a previous suggestion. I replaced the &quo

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher Schultz
ding full path, for the "Redirect Stdout" and "Redirect >> Stderr" settings, and make sure that the effective user running the >> Tomcat service (TOMCAT? LOCAL_SERVICE?) has rights to write to that >> file/directory. > > this is exactly what I did on a previ

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-20 Thread Thomas Kloeber
vel: Info * Log path:\logs * Log prefix: jakarta_service_ * Redirect Stdout: auto * Redirect Stderr: auto Someone more familiar with win32 will have to comment on what those settings are expected to produce. Note that the "Log*" parameters have nothing to do with st

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-20 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, On 12/20/2010 3:40 AM, Thomas Kloeber wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Christopher Schultz wrote on 17.12.2010 18:55: >> I can see an stderr file in there. Were you expecting anything to be in >> it immediately after startup? Si

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-20 Thread Thomas Kloeber
Hi Chris, Christopher Schultz wrote on 17.12.2010 18:55: I can see an stderr file in there. Were you expecting anything to be in it immediately after startup? Silly question: how are you writing to stderr? yes, I put some output in one of my servlets, just to test this. I'm using System.s

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-17 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, On 12/17/2010 2:38 AM, Thomas Kloeber wrote: > I changed the "auto"-settings for Stdout and Stderr in tomcat6w to > "C:\tmp". Tomcat duly created the files there, but stderr still remains > empty. > > I no

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-17 Thread Michael Ludwig
Thomas Kloeber schrieb am 17.12.2010 um 08:45 (+0100): > hmmm, I'm not sure if the attachment of my last post got through. It did get through. > How can I post files on the list? You could use http://pastebin.com/ or a similar service and post the URL. Might even be the preferred way for large f

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-16 Thread Thomas Kloeber
hmmm, I'm not sure if the attachment of my last post got through. How can I post files on the list? I just got the following message: nad...@zycus.com wrote on 17.12.2010 08:36: . The scanned document was QUARANTINED. Violation Information: The filename extension of attachment logs.zip vio

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-16 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, On 12/16/2010 2:52 AM, Thomas Kloeber wrote: > thanx for your helpful answer. Believe me, before I post on a mailing > list or forum I spent a long time trying to fix my problems. > In this case I ran out of ideas, so I was hoping I would find

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-15 Thread Thomas Kloeber
Andre, André Warnier wrote on 14.12.2010 11:10: Yes. What about these ? >* Redirect Stdout: auto >* Redirect Stderr: auto Do you know what that does ? Why don't you try to set the "Redirect Stderr" to some file path on your server, and see what arrives in it ?

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-14 Thread André Warnier
Yes. What about these ? >* Redirect Stdout: auto >* Redirect Stderr: auto Do you know what that does ? Why don't you try to set the "Redirect Stderr" to some file path on your server, and see what arrives in it ? You could also try to look in the Windows Event L

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-14 Thread Thomas Kloeber
André, thanks for your suggestion. Yes, I run Tomcat as a service. I tried your suggestion and it looks all normal/ok. * Level: Info * Log path: my tomcat installation directory/logs * Log prefix: jakarta_service_ * Redirect Stdout: auto * Redirect Stderr: auto I tried changing

Re: Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-13 Thread André Warnier
eated like stdout_.log, localhost_access_log, catalina.*.log, stder_.log, etc. However, stderr.*.log remains empty even if my servlets print stuff to System.err or dump stack traces. Only if I print to System.out the info appears in stdout_.*.log. I'm using Apache Tomcat 6.

Where does my stderr go?

2010-12-13 Thread Thomas Kloeber
like stdout_.log, localhost_access_log, catalina.*.log, stder_.log, etc. However, stderr.*.log remains empty even if my servlets print stuff to System.err or dump stack traces. Only if I print to System.out the info appears in stdout_.*.log. I'm using Apache Tomcat 6.0.26, Java 1.6.0_22-b04

RE: tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection

2010-06-21 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] > Subject: Re: tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection > > Tomcat.exe does not run Tomcat. Well actually, tomcat6.exe does - it's just another JVM launcher. You can use that in lieu of the scri

Re: tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection

2010-06-21 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bulkan, On 6/21/2010 12:46 AM, Bulkan wrote: > I am not running tomcat as a service. I directly start tomcat.exe Tomcat.exe does not run Tomcat. So, how are you really starting Tomcat? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (M

Re: tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection

2010-06-20 Thread Bulkan
lkan wrote: > > > From: Bulkan > > Subject: tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection > > To: users@tomcat.apache.org > > Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 6:06 PM > > Hi All, > > > > Before we upgraded from Tomcat 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 I was able

Re: tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection

2010-06-20 Thread Mark Eggers
's a tab called Logging that allows you to set a bunch of parameters. /mde/ --- On Sun, 6/20/10, Bulkan wrote: > From: Bulkan > Subject: tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection > To: users@tomcat.apache.org > Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 6:06 PM > Hi All, > &

tomcat.exe 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 stdout/stderr redirection

2010-06-20 Thread Bulkan
Hi All, Before we upgraded from Tomcat 6.0.18 to 6.0.26 I was able to redirect stdout/stderr of tomcat.exe using the following Python code; >>> from subprocess import Popen >>> logfile = open('tomcat.log', 'w') >>> p = Popen(r'"C:\Progra

log rotation of locahost,manager,jakarta,stdout, and stderr files on windows

2010-03-16 Thread fins60254
Running tomcat-6.0.26 on Windows XP out of the box. Is there a way to rotate the stdout, stderr, localhost, manager, jarkata log files that get created under the logs directory when tomcat gets started up via the windows service ? Currently one is forced to stop the service, and restart it to

RE: Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-10-02 Thread Peng Tuck Kwok
outputs php to stderr Thank you so far, I will definitely look into Quercus. Still, I would like to understand why output is sent to stderr and if it can be solved (I recall running PHP and tomcat in the past) without problems On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Johnny Kewl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-09-30 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
int(data); } catch (IOException e) { e.printStackTrace(System.err); } If you are seeing the output text (as you mentioned), and not exceptions and their stack traces, then maybe php just does not call this method and writes all output to the stderr handle? If so, then may be there were some changes in the b

Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-09-30 Thread Johnny Kewl
- Original Message - From: "Johnny Kewl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr - Original Message - From: "Serge Fonville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-09-30 Thread Johnny Kewl
- Original Message - From: "Serge Fonville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr Thank you so far, I will definitely look into Quercus. Still, I would like to und

Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-09-30 Thread Serge Fonville
Thank you so far, I will definitely look into Quercus. Still, I would like to understand why output is sent to stderr and if it can be solved (I recall running PHP and tomcat in the past) without problems On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Johnny Kewl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-09-29 Thread Johnny Kewl
- Original Message - From: "Serge Fonville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: Tomcat outputs php to stderr Hi, I am developing a ticket system which should use servlets to connect to the various resources. Currently I am a p

Re: Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-09-29 Thread Gabe Wong
to learn JSP/TLD/Servlets I installed Tomcat 6.0.18 with PHP 5.2.6 on Windows Vista Business (the production server will be running either Gentoo or CentOS). Installation went fine, no errors. just one thing I couldn't resolve. All output generated by php goes directly to the stderr log

Tomcat outputs php to stderr

2008-09-29 Thread Serge Fonville
). Installation went fine, no errors. just one thing I couldn't resolve. All output generated by php goes directly to the stderr log file instead of the browser (JSP and servlets work fine) I used http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/running-php-5x-on-windows-using-tomcat-4x-or-5x/ and

Re: redirecting stdout & stderr to .exe on windows

2008-08-12 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard, De Vries, Richard wrote: | Basically the logger.exe is watching for pre-configured patterns and | shooting off SNMP traps, which then triggers a recovery action of sorts. Is it possible to configure your logger program to watch a log file i

RE: redirecting stdout & stderr to .exe on windows

2008-08-12 Thread De Vries, Richard
triggers a recovery action of sorts. Anyway, I appreciate the feedback. And yeah, it's quite sad win32 is not Unix :( R. -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:14 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: redirecting std

Re: redirecting stdout & stderr to .exe on windows

2008-08-12 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard, De Vries, Richard wrote: | For instance, I changed stdout from "auto" to "| | c:\progra~1\logger\logger.exe", but this yields a no-go :-(. Checking | the task manager I also don't see "logger.exe" running. Sadly, win32 is not UNIX, where th

redirecting stdout & stderr to .exe on windows

2008-08-11 Thread De Vries, Richard
Hello everyone, long time reader, first time writer here I have the need to redirect stdout and stderr from a Tomcat 5.5 instance on a windows server to an executable. When I go into the "Apache Tomcat Properties" management console -> logging -> I can change stdout and s

Re: Same entries in stderr and catalina logs

2007-04-23 Thread Rashmi Rubdi
r the log folder correctly. My question is that i see same entries in catalina and stderr files. following is the entry of both the files. Any idea why this is happenning? Thanks in advance. Naveen Apr 22, 2007 7:23:47 PM org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol init INFO: Initializing Coyote HT

Same entries in stderr and catalina logs

2007-04-23 Thread naveen nagaraja
HI all I thought there was some problem with my earlier post. So i am reposting. i am running tomcat 5.5.9 as a service in windows xp. i see log files are created under the log folder correctly. My question is that i see same entries in catalina and stderr files. following is the entry of both

same entries in stderr and catalina logs

2007-04-22 Thread naveen nagaraja
HI all i am running tomcat 5.5.9 as a service in windows xp. i see log files are created under the log folder correctly. My question is that i see same entries in catalina and stderr files. following is the entry of both the files. Any idea why this is happenning? Thanks in advance. Naveen Apr