Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-24 Thread Tim Funk
Or it could be in the world of outsourcing you have a giant pool of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd level support who are offshore which need "access" to perform basic trouble shooting before escalation. And 90% of them have no idea they have access but getting them access when they would need it becomes a g

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread André Warnier
Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 2/23/2011 2:56 PM, André Warnier wrote: Personally, in such a case I would see the solution with an SSH or VPN tunnel as much simpler to put in place, and requiring much less "opening of ports". There's nothin

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 2/23/2011 2:56 PM, André Warnier wrote: > Personally, in such a case I would see the solution with an SSH or VPN > tunnel as much simpler to put in place, and requiring much less "opening > of ports". There's nothing that says that port 800

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread André Warnier
Mladen Turk wrote: On 02/23/2011 07:28 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: encrypting the data transfer between those boxes cause you can just as well make sure the proper persons have the network access. That list includes 78 people. You mean 78 people monitor your network for trouble ... I don'

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread André Warnier
... It is not that I am wedded to any particular implementation, it is just each change requires board approval. A change for reconfiguring the enabled modules in apache. [we can skip this if we stay with mod_proxy_ajp, as it was already approved] A change for opening up a port on the apache bo

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Mladen Turk
On 02/23/2011 07:28 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: encrypting the data transfer between those boxes cause you can just as well make sure the proper persons have the network access. That list includes 78 people. You mean 78 people monitor your network for trouble or you have your production serv

RE: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:38 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Secure AJP over ssl > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mark, &g

RE: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Mladen Turk [mailto:mt...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:01 > To: users@tomcat.apache.org > Subject: Re: Secure AJP over ssl > > On 02/22/2011 11:23 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: > >> -Original Message

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark, On 2/23/2011 10:36 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 23/02/2011 15:32, Christopher Schultz wrote: >> Mladen, >> >> On 2/23/2011 3:00 AM, Mladen Turk wrote: >>> What do you think happens when encrypted data from client comes in and >>> is encrypted aga

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Thomas
On 23/02/2011 15:32, Christopher Schultz wrote: > Mladen, > > On 2/23/2011 3:00 AM, Mladen Turk wrote: >> What do you think happens when encrypted data from client comes in and >> is encrypted again and send to the client? >> It's unencrypted in the memory and anyone with access to the box >> can

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mladen, On 2/23/2011 3:00 AM, Mladen Turk wrote: > What do you think happens when encrypted data from client comes in and > is encrypted again and send to the client? > It's unencrypted in the memory and anyone with access to the box > can just inspec

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-23 Thread Mladen Turk
On 02/22/2011 11:23 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- That is a naive view. [Please forgive the wording.] None taken. Given: 1) The Apache box is secure and login is restricted to the minimum set of persons with a kneed to know. 2) The Tomcat box is secure and login is re

RE: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Mladen Turk [mailto:mt...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:20 > To: users@tomcat.apache.org > Subject: Re: Secure AJP over ssl > > On 02/21/2011 10:31 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: > > Does (or could) tomcat 5.5

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-21 Thread Mladen Turk
On 02/21/2011 10:31 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: Does (or could) tomcat 5.5 support encrypted AJP? The frontend apache will be on a different host than the tomcat server. It is required that the communications are encrypted. I would suggest you reconsider your security requirements. Unless your fro

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Thomas
On 21/02/2011 22:28, Jason Pyeron wrote: > Where are the docs for certificate chaining with mod_proxy? I have not found > any. Unhelpfully, the comments in the relevant class aren't in Javadoc format. Grr. That will be fixed shortly. In the meantime, add the following to your SSL virtual host in

RE: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-21 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 17:26 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Secure AJP over ssl > > On 21/02/2011 22:19, Jason Pyeron wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >&

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Thomas
On 21/02/2011 22:19, Jason Pyeron wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Mark Thomas >> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 17:15 >> To: Tomcat Users List >> Subject: Re: Secure AJP over ssl >> >> On 21/02/2011 21:31, Jason Pyeron wrote: >>&g

RE: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-21 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Thomas > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 17:15 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Secure AJP over ssl > > On 21/02/2011 21:31, Jason Pyeron wrote: > > Does (or could) tomcat 5.5 support encrypted AJP? > > No. > &

Re: Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Thomas
On 21/02/2011 21:31, Jason Pyeron wrote: > Does (or could) tomcat 5.5 support encrypted AJP? No. > Would I be best off using stunnel? Also, no. Use mod_proxy_http and proxy over https. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-u

Secure AJP over ssl

2011-02-21 Thread Jason Pyeron
Does (or could) tomcat 5.5 support encrypted AJP? The frontend apache will be on a different host than the tomcat server. It is required that the communications are encrypted. Would I be best off using stunnel? My googleing has led me astray to http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E13789_01/bh.100/