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Mladen,
On 6/17/2011 1:21 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
> On 06/17/2011 12:14 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>> On 6/16/2011 5:03 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
>>>
>>> I was actually wondering about these. I think I have my answer now :/
>>> Solutions in C
On 06/17/2011 12:14 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
On 6/16/2011 5:03 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
I was actually wondering about these. I think I have my answer now :/
Solutions in C or other languages are many to achieve that, Java has
none.
Correct: native code has to be written. tc-native
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Francis,
On 6/16/2011 5:03 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 20:37, Christopher Schultz
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>> First off, the JVM provides no pure-Java way of letting a process go
>> into the background. So, there's really no opportunity to do some
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 20:37, Christopher Schultz
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> Francis,
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> The above requirements actually might not be possible in a reasonably
> simple system.
>
> First off, the JVM provides no pure-Java way of letting a process go
> int
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Francis,
On 6/15/2011 4:00 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> Proposal: implement a command to Bootstrap which:
>
> * does NOT return until ALL webapps configured at start time are
> (attempted to be) deployed;
> * exits with a positive error code represe
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 15:01, Konstantin Kolinko
wrote:
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>
> Implement what you want in a listener. Throw an Error if whatever you
> want fails.
>
OK, but then, why isn't there such a listener as standard? I'm sure
you understand the need, and having this listener as standard in
Tomcat can
2011/6/16 Francis GALIEGUE :
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:48, Konstantin Kolinko
> wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> Some resources are allocated only on the first access.
>>
>> E.g. starting servlets, or obtaining database connections from a pool.
>> Unless you obtain a connection there is no knowing that the
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:48, Konstantin Kolinko
wrote:
[...]
>
> Some resources are allocated only on the first access.
>
> E.g. starting servlets, or obtaining database connections from a pool.
> Unless you obtain a connection there is no knowing that the database
> is accessible.
>
I know tha
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:36, Pid wrote:
[...]
>>>
>>> An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
>>> initialising.
>>>
>>
>> That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
>
> What is the value of indicating success or failure, if the answer is
2011/6/16 Francis GALIEGUE :
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29, Pid wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
>> initialising.
>>
>
> That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
>
> Furthermore, if the application reports a
On 16/06/2011 12:15, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29, Pid wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
>> initialising.
>>
>
> That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
What is the value of indicat
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:51, sebb wrote:
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> The value passed to System.exit(int) is passed to the OS.
>
> In Unix systems, 0 means success and anything else is generally not success.
>
> OpenVMS behaves differently, as already noted.
> If a process returns an error or fatal code to VMS, t
On 16 June 2011 12:32, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:30, sebb wrote:
> [...]
>>>
>>> It's up to main() to call System.exit(), so how is that a problem?
>>
>> If the exit code is not passed to the OS, but is merely a method
>> return code, then of course it's not a problem.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:30, sebb wrote:
[...]
>>
>> It's up to main() to call System.exit(), so how is that a problem?
>
> If the exit code is not passed to the OS, but is merely a method
> return code, then of course it's not a problem.
>
> But I understood the term "exit code" to mean the cod
On 16 June 2011 12:16, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:04, sebb wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> And it may cause problems on some OSes which don't use unix-style exit codes.
>> For example, OpenVMS uses the low order 3 bits of a process exit code
>> as a severity indicator, and odd is s
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:04, sebb wrote:
[...]
>
> And it may cause problems on some OSes which don't use unix-style exit codes.
> For example, OpenVMS uses the low order 3 bits of a process exit code
> as a severity indicator, and odd is success, even is failure.
> [IThe JVM automatically conve
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29, Pid wrote:
[...]
>
> An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
> initialising.
>
That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
Furthermore, if the application reports a successful start even though
it is not comp
On 16 June 2011 11:29, Pid wrote:
> On 15/06/2011 21:00, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
>> Tomcat has many abilities to deploy applications at run time (war,
>> tree, context, you name it). However, when used in production, these
>> abilities are used cautiously, if they are used at all.
>>
>> In many sc
On 15/06/2011 21:00, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> Tomcat has many abilities to deploy applications at run time (war,
> tree, context, you name it). However, when used in production, these
> abilities are used cautiously, if they are used at all.
>
> In many scenarios, Tomcat just starts, spends its l
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 22:11, Caldarale, Charles R
wrote:
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>
> Check the system property org.apache.catalina.startup.EXIT_ON_INIT_FAILURE
> and see if it meets your needs. (It might not be setting an exit code.)
>
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/systemprops.html
>
> - Chu
> From: Francis GALIEGUE [mailto:f...@one2team.com]
> Subject: Feature request: "fullstart" command
> Proposal: implement a fullstart command to Bootstrap which:
> * does NOT return until ALL webapps configured at start time are
> (attempted to be) deployed;
> * exits with a positive error code
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