Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-11-09 Thread Rainer Jung
I suspect some conspiracy is going on: just bought a book during ApacheCon US and on the flyleaf with citations it contains: "To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail" (Mark Twain) ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-11-02 Thread André Warnier
Elli Albek wrote: How did this make it into the tomcat users list? :) CPAN: Driven by users. Java (JCP) Driven by vendors. Tomcat logging: driven by Java Hammer (tm) manufacturers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-11-02 Thread Elli Albek
How did this make it into the tomcat users list? :) CPAN: Driven by users. Java (JCP) Driven by vendors.

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-11-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 10/31/2009 9:53 AM, André Warnier wrote: > Fortunately, this is not about to happen to java programmers. Zing! - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozd

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-31 Thread André Warnier
Leon Rosenberg wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:59 AM, André Warnier wrote: Leon Rosenberg wrote: They are saying: In the time java developers picks the gun, the php developer runs away with the prey. And the c developer seems to be thinking about best fitting boots. The perl developer in t

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-31 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:59 AM, André Warnier wrote: > Leon Rosenberg wrote: >> >> They are saying: In the time java developers picks the gun, the php >> developer runs away with the prey. And the c developer seems to be >> thinking about best fitting boots. >> > The perl developer in the meanti

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-31 Thread André Warnier
Leon Rosenberg wrote: They are saying: In the time java developers picks the gun, the php developer runs away with the prey. And the c developer seems to be thinking about best fitting boots. The perl developer in the meantime created a module which will allow him to catch the rest of the spec

RE: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-30 Thread George Sexton
> -Original Message- > From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:rosenberg.l...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:53 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log- > rotation on "catalina.out") > &g

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-30 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: >> Java is for big boys only, isn't it? > > I've heard that recent (even several years old, now) versions of Java > VMs can "match" the speed of compiled C++ for many non-trivial uses. > But, can the Java compiler use its generics feature

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-30 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pierre, On 10/30/2009 9:21 AM, Pierre Goupil wrote: > I'm a true Java developper (tm). If a problem can't be solved with Java, > that's not a real problem. Here's one Java can't do (without significant help): Write a command-line (no GUI) app that p

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-30 Thread Pierre Goupil
I'm a true Java developper (tm). If a problem can't be solved with Java, that's not a real problem. Java is for big boys only, isn't it? On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:12 PM, André Warnier wrote: > Peter Crowther wrote: > >> >> At the other end of the language-complexity scale, I can't remember >> t

Re: [OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-30 Thread André Warnier
Peter Crowther wrote: At the other end of the language-complexity scale, I can't remember the source of the quote but I do appreciate "When C++ is your hammer, everything looks like a screw." I don't know what you people are all talking about. We Perl programmers don't have such issues. It do

[OT] Hammers and nails (was Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out")

2009-10-30 Thread Peter Crowther
2009/10/30 Caldarale, Charles R : > Smalltalk is a classic example of the philosophy: "I have a hammer, therefore > everything is a nail." I used to teach Smalltalk*. Of a 3-day course, 1/4 day was on the language, 1/2 day was on the environment and the rest was on the class library. It's an in

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 10/29/2009 6:47 PM, André Warnier wrote: > 4) If it works, this has got to go on the WiKi I apologize for possibly sounding like a jerk, but my suggestion seemed somewhat self-evident given the various configuration options. > Christopher

RE: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Rainer Jung [mailto:rainer.j...@kippdata.de] > Subject: Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out" > > Two times in one day: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd- > docs/200910.mbox/raw/%3c20091029112545.gz5...@cr%3e/ > > con

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Rainer Jung
On 30.10.2009 01:35, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: >> From: peter.crowth...@googlemail.com >> [mailto:peter.crowth...@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Crowther >> Subject: Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out" >> >> ... you've not played w

RE: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: peter.crowth...@googlemail.com > [mailto:peter.crowth...@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Crowther > Subject: Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out" > > ... you've not played with Smalltalk, have you? :-) Arithmetic isn't > built int

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Peter Crowther
2009/10/29 André Warnier : > (*) Actually, it's not the Java language itself, which is quite simple and > elegant.  But it's that in order to do anything at all in that language, you > first need to become familiar with dozens of class hierarchies. ... you've not played with Smalltalk, have you? :

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread André Warnier
Christopher, 1) :-) 2) I'll definitely try it. It looks like it's worth the effort (and as a reward for yours). 3) I have a question in the text below 4) If it works, this has got to go on the WiKi Christopher Schultz wrote: I think you can get this effect by: 1. Setting Q : are the abov

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 10/29/2009 2:38 PM, André Warnier wrote: > Christopher Schultz wrote: >> >> [Cue Andre's rant about logging configuration in Tomcat 5+] >> > Yes, I want a new >logpath="mychoice" prefix="mychoicetoo" suffix="mychoicealso" > rotate="mycho

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread André Warnier
Christopher Schultz wrote: [Cue Andre's rant about logging configuration in Tomcat 5+] Yes, I want a new logpath="mychoice" prefix="mychoicetoo" suffix="mychoicealso" rotate="mychoiceagain" /> that will suck in all the logs that these undisciplined application developers dream up and direc

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, (Looks like my first attempt got botched. Here it is, again.) On 10/29/2009 5:17 AM, thomas2004 wrote: > > I've installed Tomcat 5.5.27 on Linux. Though the "catalina.out" will be > > rotated e

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread thomas2004
What do you mean "send stdout and stderr to logger(1) instead"? How to do it? Harald Dunkel-3 wrote: > > thomas2004 wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have now a problem/question: >> >> I've installed Tomcat 5.5.27 on Linux. Though the "catalina.out" will be >> rotated everyday, i.g. "catalina.

Re: A question about log-rotation on "catalina.out"

2009-10-29 Thread Harald Dunkel
thomas2004 wrote: > Hi all, > > I have now a problem/question: > > I've installed Tomcat 5.5.27 on Linux. Though the "catalina.out" will be > rotated everyday, i.g. "catalina.-mm-dd.log. But the "catalina.out"-self > doesn't begin from the new day but still contains the old log messages. I've

Re: A question about log rotation

2006-02-11 Thread Rhino
I had a similar issue on a Mandrake system running tomcat 4.1.24 a couple of years back. I resolved it eventually and wrote a bit of documentation for myself and the Linux sysadmin for our system. It was not intended for use by anyone but us so it may not explain things sufficiently clearly but