Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tsirkin, On 8/16/2009 3:19 AM, Tsirkin Evgeny wrote: > echo -n > catalina.out This is not a truncation: this is a file replacement. In bash, the command '>' truncates a file, it doesn't redirect "nothing" to it. It's a special case of the IO redirec

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 George, On 8/14/2009 3:21 PM, George Sexton wrote: > Here's what I originally wrote and Chris responded to: > >> In Unix, if you erase a file that's still open, that file will be >> removed from the directory but it will exist and consume space >> un

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 George, On 8/14/2009 2:42 PM, George Sexton wrote: >> Sure it will. Check the "copytruncate" option. > > That's an interesting option. It seems fraught with danger, but I > tested it and it does work. Yes, it is fraught with danger. But, if you want

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-16 Thread André Warnier
Tsirkin Evgeny wrote: .. I'm no expert in these matters either, so I am a bit bemused about what is going on also, but to abound maybe on what Evgeny is writing : I happened to be following this thread and taking notes. I also happened to have a similar issue, with Apache httpd, not Tomcat : U

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-16 Thread Tsirkin Evgeny
, and that works too. > > George Sexton > MH Software, Inc. > http://www.mhsoftware.com/ > Voice: 303 438 9585 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] > > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:46 PM >

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: George Sexton [mailto:geor...@mhsoftware.com] > Subject: RE: Clearing the catalina.out file > > You'll note that what I wrote about erasing files is exactly > in line with what you just wrote. I think the confusion lies with the use of the ambiguous term "erase&q

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread George Sexton
MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 > -Original Message- > From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:03 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Clearing the catalina.out file > > > From: Georg

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: George Sexton [mailto:geor...@mhsoftware.com] > Subject: RE: Clearing the catalina.out file > > rm catalina.out Which is an unlink, not an erase; all the suggestions so far have been for truncation. An inode and its associated data blocks are never discarded until the busy

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread George Sexton
Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 > -Original Message- > From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:46 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Clearing the catalina.out file > > > From: George Sex

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: George Sexton [mailto:geor...@mhsoftware.com] > Subject: RE: Clearing the catalina.out file > > On one of my production servers, I erased catalina.out. Exactly how? What's been under discussion here is a truncation operation, not an unlink. - Chuck THIS COMMUNIC

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread George Sexton
Chris, > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:59 AM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Clearing the catalina.out file > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 &

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 George, On 8/14/2009 12:48 PM, George Sexton wrote: > Logrotate isn't going to work because the file is never re-set. > Typically, when you use LogRotate with something like apache you send > a command to re-start it. Sure it will. Check the "copytru

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan, On 8/14/2009 11:37 AM, Susan Richards wrote: > If I had time to learn how logrotate works I wouldn't need to post > to the list and waste your time, but if you're going to reply to a > question, why answer only part of it? Logrotate's operati

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread George Sexton
ds [mailto:richa...@matc.edu] > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:38 AM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Clearing the catalina.out file > > If I had time to learn how logrotate works I wouldn't need to post to > the list and waste your time, but if you're going to reply

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Len Popp
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:23, Christopher Schultz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Susan, > > On 8/14/2009 11:06 AM, Susan Richards wrote: >> No, but I will do it with a test server first since no one knows the answer. > > It's not that nobody knows the answer: it's tha

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Serge Fonville
Susan, > If I had time to learn how logrotate works I wouldn't need to post to the > list and waste your time, but if you're going to reply to a question, why > answer only part of it? If you know the answer, why spend the time telling > me to try it out? I will have learned either way and won'

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Susan Richards
If I had time to learn how logrotate works I wouldn't need to post to the list and waste your time, but if you're going to reply to a question, why answer only part of it? If you know the answer, why spend the time telling me to try it out? I will have learned either way and won't have to ask

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan, On 8/14/2009 11:06 AM, Susan Richards wrote: > No, but I will do it with a test server first since no one knows the answer. It's not that nobody knows the answer: it's that actually /trying/ to do it takes less time than posting to the mailing

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Serge Fonville
Susan, Tomcat does not lock the file, since it is write only, clearing it has no impact on the service. I recall having a catalina.out that reached 4GB withon the hour due to a read only filesystem. Clearing it while it is running had no impact. Googling also tends to be helpful... HTH Regards,

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Susan Richards
No, but I will do it with a test server first since no one knows the answer. >>> Christopher Schultz 8/14/2009 9:47 AM >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan, On 8/14/2009 10:19 AM, Susan Richards wrote: > What about stopping the web server? Required? Thanks for the answers.

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Susan, On 8/14/2009 10:19 AM, Susan Richards wrote: > What about stopping the web server? Required? Thanks for the answers. This seems like an easy thing to just try. Have you? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32)

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Susan Richards
What about stopping the web server? Required? Thanks for the answers. >>> Serge Fonville 8/14/2009 9:13 AM >>> > catalina.out Why type more ;-) HTH Serge On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Dan Denton wrote: > "echo "" > catalina.out" (without the outside quotes) works for us. > > Dan > > ---

Re: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Serge Fonville
> catalina.out Why type more ;-) HTH Serge On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Dan Denton wrote: > "echo "" > catalina.out" (without the outside quotes) works for us. > > Dan > > -Original Message- > From: Susan Richards [mailto:richa...@matc.edu] > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:53 AM >

RE: Clearing the catalina.out file

2009-08-14 Thread Dan Denton
"echo "" > catalina.out" (without the outside quotes) works for us. Dan -Original Message- From: Susan Richards [mailto:richa...@matc.edu] Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:53 AM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Clearing the catalina.out file Do I need to stop the web server in order