Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-14 Thread Carl
re it had a problem. Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: "Pid" To: Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) On 14/01/2010 14:36, Carl wrote: David, I am such a dufuss... didn't even notice it cycled afte

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-14 Thread Pid
u search the OS logs for evidence of an OOM kill? cat /var/log/messages | grep --ignore-case "killed process" p - Original Message - From: "David kerber" To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies sudde

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-14 Thread Carl
2010 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) Memtest86, which I believe is the same one Peter suggested (or at least a variation of it). It just loops continuously until stopped. Carl wrote: David, What do you use for your mem testing? I am using the memTest sugges

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-14 Thread Peter Crowther
2010/1/14 David kerber : > Memtest86, which I believe is the same one Peter suggested (or at least a > variation of it).  It just loops continuously until stopped. I suggested memtest86+ (http://www.memtest.org/). Memtest86 (http://www.memtest86.com/) is also available; I moved to the + version w

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-14 Thread David kerber
. Probably call Dell this morning. TIA, Carl - Original Message - From: "David Kerber" To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) Peter Crowther wrote: 2010/1/13 David kerber : Make sur

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-14 Thread Carl
ednesday, January 13, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) Peter Crowther wrote: 2010/1/13 David kerber : Make sure you let it run for quite a while. I've had memory failures show up as late as 11 passes into a test run. That's dedication - I usua

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread David Kerber
Peter Crowther wrote: 2010/1/13 David kerber : Make sure you let it run for quite a while. I've had memory failures show up as late as 11 passes into a test run. That's dedication - I usually end up stopping it after a couple of runs. Thanks David, I've learned something! - Peter -

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Peter Crowther
2010/1/13 David kerber : > Make sure you let it run for quite a while.  I've had memory failures show > up as late as 11 passes into a test run. That's dedication - I usually end up stopping it after a couple of runs. Thanks David, I've learned something! - Peter ---

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Carl
David, Will do... thanks for the heads up. Carl - Original Message - From: "David kerber" To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) Carl wrote: Peter, The memTest is still runn

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread David kerber
Carl wrote: Peter, The memTest is still running but clean so far. Make sure you let it run for quite a while. I've had memory failures show up as late as 11 passes into a test run. D - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubs

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Carl
Peter, The memTest is still running but clean so far. Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: "Peter Crowther" To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) 2010/1/13 Christopher Schul

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Carl
opher Schultz" To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Peter, > > On 1/13/2010 8:49 AM, Peter Crowther wrote: >> Very di

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Peter Crowther
2010/1/13 Christopher Schultz : > On 1/13/2010 8:49 AM, Peter Crowther wrote: >> Very difficult to know what the problem is.  One thing you can now do >> (as you've switched to another production server) is to run a memory >> test across the "bad" server. > > Usually, I would agree that physical me

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter, On 1/13/2010 8:49 AM, Peter Crowther wrote: > Very difficult to know what the problem is. One thing you can now do > (as you've switched to another production server) is to run a memory > test across the "bad" server. Usually, I would agree t

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Carl
Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) In order to monitor java memory at chrash time you can add to JAVA_OPTS these directives -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError -XX:HeapDumpPath=/your/tomcat/folder/memorydump.hprof In this way, if tomcat goes in out of memory, you hav

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Carl
In process... thanks for the suggestion. Carl - Original Message - From: "Peter Crowther" To: "Tomcat Users List" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away) Very difficult to know what the problem is. One

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Paolo Santarsiero
In order to monitor java memory at chrash time you can add to JAVA_OPTS these directives -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError -XX:HeapDumpPath=/your/tomcat/folder/memorydump.hprof In this way, if tomcat goes in out of memory, you have an image of memory (memorydump.hprof) that you can analyze by an ex

Re: Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Peter Crowther
Very difficult to know what the problem is. One thing you can now do (as you've switched to another production server) is to run a memory test across the "bad" server. A T110 doesn't use error-correcting memory, as I recall, so a dodgy bit could cause problems. Give it a couple of hours with mem

Tomcat dies suddenly (was JVM goes away)

2010-01-13 Thread Carl
>From the original posting: This is a new server, a Dell T110 with a Xeon 3440 processor and 4GB memory. I have turned off both the turbo mode and hyperthreading. The environment: 64 bit Slackware Linux java version "1.6.0_17" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_17-b04) Java HotSpot(

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-12 Thread Carl
constrained perm gen, etc.) Thanks, Carl - Original Message - From: "Pid" To: "Carl" Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:41 AM Subject: Re: JVM goes away On 12/01/2010 01:30, Carl wrote: Aha, for some reason, I thought perm gen was included in the general hea

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-12 Thread Carl
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:41 AM Subject: Re: JVM goes away On 12/01/2010 01:30, Carl wrote: Aha, for some reason, I thought perm gen was included in the general heap so the maximum for the two combined was constrained by the 2400m I had defined for the heap. Somewhere around 2:00AM (I

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Carl
to the edge that I don't see it. Odd though, I have forced OOM issues in the past and they always showed up in catalina.out. Thanks for your thoughts and help. Carl - Original Message - From: "Pid" To: Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: JVM goes a

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Pid
the JVM will just go away, disappear. Sometimes, the system will run for a week, sometimes for only several hours. Initially, I thought the problem was the turbo or hyperthreading but, no, the problem persists. When the JVM goes away, the memory that it held is still being held (as seen from top) b

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Carl
;Tomcat Users List" Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: Re: JVM goes away 2010/1/12 Carl : Peter and Andy, Thanks for your quick responses. Memory: Physical - $GB Used - 2.4GB to 3.0 GB (according to top... have never seen it above 3GB) Swap - 19GB, none ever used (or, at le

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2010/1/12 Carl : > Peter and Andy, > > Thanks for your quick responses. > > Memory:  Physical - $GB >               Used - 2.4GB to 3.0 GB (according to top... have never seen it > above 3GB) >               Swap - 19GB, none ever used (or, at least I have never seen > any used.) > > The above are

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Carl
M is or is not running as a daemon? TIA, Carl - Original Message - From: "Andy Wang" To: Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:42 PM Subject: Re: JVM goes away I assume $GB means 4GB :) With that kind of memory use it doesn't sound entirely like the OOM killer. Have you

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Andy Wang
g but saw nothing that looked out of the ordinary. > > I will cut back on the heap and permgen tonight (gonna be a long one.) > > Any ideas are welcome. > > Thanks, > > Carl > > > - Original Message ----- From: "Peter Crowther" > > To: "Tom

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Carl
2010 6:06 PM Subject: Re: JVM goes away 2010/1/11 Carl : This is a new server, a Dell T110 with a Xeon 3440 processor and 4GB memory. I have turned off both the turbo mode and hyperthreading. The environment: 64 bit Slackware Linux java version "1.6.0_17" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environ

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Peter Crowther
in any log (Tomcat or > system) or to the console, the JVM will just go away, disappear.  Sometimes, > the system will run for a week, sometimes for only several hours.  Initially, > I thought the problem was the turbo or hyperthreading but, no, the problem > persists. > > When the J

Re: JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Andy Wang
#x27;s, etc. at a > reasonable speed. Without warning and with no tracks in any log (Tomcat or > system) or to the console, the JVM will just go away, disappear. Sometimes, > the system will run for a week, sometimes for only several hours. Initially, > I thought the problem

JVM goes away

2010-01-11 Thread Carl
for a week, sometimes for only several hours. Initially, I thought the problem was the turbo or hyperthreading but, no, the problem persists. When the JVM goes away, the memory that it held is still being held (as seen from top) but it is nowhere near the machine physical memory. The applicati