Folks:
I might be a little to this discussion. I have taken upon myself; (don't ask
why I asked for that kind of pain ;o) to review how IIS and tomcat inter
operate and just released in beta a new connector specifically for IIS7 /
tomcat (though this works in IIS6 as well).
You can download bina
Christopher Schultz schrieb am 01.03.2011 um 16:56 (-0500):
> I find *NIX smaller, cleaner, simpler, more scriptable and
> remotely administratable (is that a word? maybe administerable?)
> than Windows.
The word is: administrable
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-abilis
http://en.wiktionary.org/wi
Hi Chuck,
You did not see my earlier response where I came to the same conclusion about
the types after looking at some other sites including a wiki. Yes there was
some
confusion but now I am clear that it is compiler dependant as I said earlier.
Thanks,
-Tony
> From: Tony Anecito [mailto:adanec...@yahoo.com]
> Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
> On page 4 of the following port guide:
> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/jdk/64bitporting/64BitJavaPortingGuide.pdf
> It states:For Windows, on 32-bit systems, inte
and I said so in a previous message.
Regards,
-Tony
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 6:27 PM,
vious message.
Regards,
-Tony
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 6:27 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I
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Chuck,
On 3/1/2011 6:09 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
>> Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
>
>> I don't understand why communicating a 64-b
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 6:27 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I believe the effect of compression is relative. In other words for a big
> program with lots of 64-bit pointers and 64-bit longs it is helps but for
> small
> programs it does not.
A long in Java i
I do not know what the "My bad" limit per day is but I am sure you are fine. :]
-Tony
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On 3/2/2011 12:03 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
>
On 3/2/2011 12:03 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
As stated in my message I was using the -server option for the server jvm.
-Tony
My bad; I missed that.
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As stated in my message I was using the -server option for the server jvm.
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On 3/1/2011 4:07 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> Thanks Chris I w
> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
> Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
> The question I have is how does the bus controller know
> that there are multiple 32-bit values coming down the line,
> and that it can send them simultaneously d
ry to not get emotional about it but I do miss my 8080 and Z80.
-Tony
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> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@chri
From: Christopher Schultz
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 4:19 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I guess you have not read my last email yet. I think of it
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 4:33 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I used Tomcat separately because JBoss was always somew
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Chuck,
On 3/1/2011 5:42 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
>> Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
>
>> Are you saying that a 32-bit JVM runnin
> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
> Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
> I don't understand why communicating a 64-bit value over a
> 64-bit bus would take longer than communicating a 32-bit
> value over a 64-bit bus:
Because
> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
> Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
> Are you saying that a 32-bit JVM running on a 64-bit machine
> somehow utilizes the 64-bit bus? Malarkey.
I wouldn't bet on that. Intel goes to great pains
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 4:19 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I guess you have not read my last email yet. I think of it as putting two
> 32-bit pieces of info on a 64-bit data bus whereas for two 64-bit pieces of
> information it takes two fetches or twice as
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Bruce,
On 3/1/2011 4:42 PM, Bruce Pease wrote:
> I'm just curious if anyone is using a 64 bit version of Linux, and has seen
> performance degradation. We are looking to move off the Windows platform
> eventually anyway.
I'm not using 64-bit, but I
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 4:33 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I used Tomcat separately because JBoss was always somewhat behind the current
> production version of Tomcat. Eventually I will remove JBoss and use JDBC
> from
> Tomcat to my database to reduce memo
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Hi Chris,
I used Tomcat separately because JBoss was always somewhat behind the current
production version of Tomcat. Eventually I will remove JBoss and use JDBC
from
Tomcat to my database to reduce memory footprint and improve performance.
lient program.
Regards,
-Tony
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Tony,
Good thing these are marked as [OT]... we have totally hij
On 3/1/2011 4:07 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
Thanks Chris I will take a look at it.
I am just trying to figure out what is the fastest was to handle my app. I was
shooting for less than 1msec at Tomcat which I not have done. Now I want to get
to 100 microseconds. Years ago from an logical architectu
Hi Chris,
I guess you have not read my last email yet. I think of it as putting two
32-bit pieces of info on a 64-bit data bus whereas for two 64-bit pieces of
information it takes two fetches or twice as long on the same hardware.
Depending upon the number of bytes for each data type for 3
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Tony,
Good thing these are marked as [OT]... we have totally hijacked Bruce's
thread. Maybe we should start another.
On 3/1/2011 4:07 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I am just trying to figure out what is the fastest was to handle my app. I
> was
> shoot
, March 1, 2011 1:42:37 PM
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 2:49 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I understand it is from the core AWS but the important thing for me was to
> eliminate AJP because in a AWS standalone I had u
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 3:24 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> Also, I have not programmed in assembly language or in hexadecimal for some
> time but I would hope that for a 32-bit java process running on a 64-bit
> processor I would fetch a 32-bit pointer and m
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Tony,
On 3/1/2011 2:49 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I understand it is from the core AWS but the important thing for me was to
> eliminate AJP because in a AWS standalone I had used to communicate AJP.
> When I enabled ARP I did not have to do anything
On 02/28/2011 07:15 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
From: Bruce Pease [mailto:bpe...@wth.com]
Subject: IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
In performance tests I have found the configuration runs
dramatically slower than it's corresponding server in 32
bit Windows on 2000 Server and Tom
on how much worse things get is based upon how many pointers and
longs are used for 64-bit java that are used.
Regards,
-Tony
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Hi Chris
?
Thanks,
-Tony
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Tony,
On 2/28/2011 4:21 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I also use Native
the keywords: java 64-bit vs 32-bit performance
You will find alot of discussion about this.
Regards,
-Tony
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Tony,
On 2/28/2011 4:21 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> I also use Native APR with Tomcat 7 which eliminates AJP and
> supposedly is faster than Apache Web Server
It's probably the same as AWS, as the code is the same :)
> http://people.apache.org/~schul
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Tony,
On 2/28/2011 2:57 PM, Tony Anecito wrote:
> Since the memory pointers are larger you may need to increase your heap size
> but
> you can compress the address pointers.
+1
> Also, if you use JNI and it is 32-bit then you will have unexpected
Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 1:08:19 PM
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Thanks for the insight. It looks like we are going to go with server 2003 32
bit. I found some references that suggest ajp 1.3 has a performance issue in
64 bit server 2008.
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From: Tony
> From: Tony Anecito [mailto:adanec...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:01 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
>
> I forgot to mention new versions of Windows are slower than XP. So that
> would
>
> contribute to your issues
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I forgot to mention new versions of Windows are slower than XP. So that would
contribute to your issues. Windows 7 got better but not as fast as 32-bit.
Also, you might want to measure from tomcat perspective so you have a new
baseline
Anecito
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Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 12:57:03 PM
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Since the memory pointers are larger you may need to increase your heap size
but
you can compress the address pointers.
Also, if you use JNI and it is 32-bit then you will have
Subject: Re: IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
JVM settings should not be the same.
Regards,
-Tony
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Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 11:46:35 AM
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Perhaps my point is being missed here. The
JVM settings should not be the same.
Regards,
-Tony
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Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 11:46:35 AM
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Perhaps my point is being missed here. The issue is moving from 32 bit is
slower in 64
ne is
using a similar setup, and has been able to get it to perform well.
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:40 PM
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I agree with Charles. I run a perfor
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> From: Bruce Pease [mailto:bpe...@wth.com]
> Subject: IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance
> In performance tests I have found the configuration runs
> dramatically slower than it's corresponding server in 32
> bit Windows on 2000 Server and Tomcat 6.
Until you quantify &q
Good Afternoon:
I am attempting to run a Windows x64 server with IIS7 and Tomcat 7. I have
64 bit versions of JDK (1.6.26) and Tomcat (7.0.8). The server is set up
with IIS using ajp1.3 to a local cluster of Tomcat servers. In performance
tests I have found the configuration runs dramaticall
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