Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
On Jan 6, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Remy Maucherat wrote: On 1/6/06, Michael Czeiszperger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:22 PM, Remy Maucherat wrote: Sorry, for the potentially redundant question, but to clarify, is the APR version of Tomcat officially released? The last time I check

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-06 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 1/6/06, Michael Czeiszperger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:22 PM, Remy Maucherat wrote: > Sorry, for the potentially redundant question, but to clarify, is the > APR version of Tomcat officially released? The last time I checked it > was not. I don't care either way, but w

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
On Jan 5, 2006, at 3:41 PM, Duan, Nick wrote: Thanks Michael for the info. J2EE performance testing depends on many different factors. Some questions/suggestions for your consideration: 1. It wasn't clear from your report what the HW/SW spec of your test clients (load workstation). Base

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:22 PM, Remy Maucherat wrote: On 1/5/06, Michael Czeiszperger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Jess Holle wrote: Also a Tomcat 5.5.12 (or better 5.5.15) with and without APR test against recent IBM, Sun, and BEA offerings would be really nice :-)

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 1/5/06, ALEX HYDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stupid question Remy but are you refering to the > proces per java thread issue that had effected Linux? > I am well behind the times so is this all resolved? I > am soon to set-up a Tomcat server, preferably on Linux > FC3 with a 2.6 kernal. Would

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 1/5/06, Michael Czeiszperger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Jess Holle wrote: > > > Also a Tomcat 5.5.12 (or better 5.5.15) with and without APR test > > against recent IBM, Sun, and BEA offerings would be really nice :-) > > > > We did a previous test with tomcat aga

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread ALEX HYDE
Stupid question Remy but are you refering to the proces per java thread issue that had effected Linux? I am well behind the times so is this all resolved? I am soon to set-up a Tomcat server, preferably on Linux FC3 with a 2.6 kernal. Would you know whether this is suitable for running Tomcat under

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Jess Holle
Michael Czeiszperger wrote: At the enterprise level businesses pay for support, and at the highest levels of support the license the source for a product is under makes little difference to the end customer, which is why its a good business model for the likes of IBM. (Note that our own p

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
On Jan 5, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Jess Holle wrote: Also a Tomcat 5.5.12 (or better 5.5.15) with and without APR test against recent IBM, Sun, and BEA offerings would be really nice :-) We did a previous test with tomcat against those servers, and are waiting for APR to be officially released

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
On Jan 5, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Remy Maucherat wrote: With the usage of APR in Tomcat 5.5.x, I would say the difference will be even bigger, as APR on Linux will use more efficient IO calls than on Windows. So use Linux :) (note: please, don't use any Redhat Linux 2.4s kernels, though) Yes, we

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
On Jan 5, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Jess Holle wrote: Thinking about this a bit more, though, I guess this conviction comes from experience with really large and complex web applications. When most of the code being run is not servlet engine code, then it stands to reason that the bulk of the r

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Jess Holle
Remy Maucherat wrote: On 1/5/06, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also a Tomcat 5.5.12 (or better 5.5.15) with and without APR test against recent IBM, Sun, and BEA offerings would be really nice :-) There seems to be a silly notion out there that because you pay for commercial offerin

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 1/5/06, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Czeiszperger wrote: > > > On Jan 5, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Tim Funk wrote: > > > >> Interesting. In enterprise environments, I also hear it common to > >> see antivirus software also run on windows servers too. (Yes, you > >> read that correctly

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Remy Maucherat
On 1/5/06, Michael Czeiszperger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that Tomcat users would be interested to know that we just > published an in-depth comparison of Tomcat performance on Windows and > Linux. > > The articles are available here: > > http://webperformance.com/library/reports > > I

RE: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Duan, Nick
m: Michael Czeiszperger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:43 PM To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux I thought that Tomcat users would be interested to know that we just published an in-depth comparison of Tomcat performance

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Jess Holle
Michael Czeiszperger wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Tim Funk wrote: Interesting. In enterprise environments, I also hear it common to see antivirus software also run on windows servers too. (Yes, you read that correctly) I'd be curious to see how much or a performance decrease there

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread David Kerber
Ours is more of a small-to-medium environment than it is enterprise, but we put antivirus on our servers... Tim Funk wrote: Interesting. In enterprise environments, I also hear it common to see antivirus software also run on windows servers too. (Yes, you read that correctly) I'd be curious t

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
On Jan 5, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Tim Funk wrote: Interesting. In enterprise environments, I also hear it common to see antivirus software also run on windows servers too. (Yes, you read that correctly) I'd be curious to see how much or a performance decrease there is when one is turned on.

Re: Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Tim Funk
Interesting. In enterprise environments, I also hear it common to see antivirus software also run on windows servers too. (Yes, you read that correctly) I'd be curious to see how much or a performance decrease there is when one is turned on. -Tim Michael Czeiszperger wrote: I thought that T

Comparing Tomcat Performance on Windows vs. Linux

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Czeiszperger
I thought that Tomcat users would be interested to know that we just published an in-depth comparison of Tomcat performance on Windows and Linux. The articles are available here: http://webperformance.com/library/reports It describes the very different behavior of the two platforms under