Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I currently rate getting a stable 5.1 release out at a higher priority than GAE compatibility. I'm really in a bug fixing mode now, and retooling the template parser (again!) is a bit more work than I want to take on. We do have some very fine tests, so if someone else wants to take a crack at it,

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Fernando Padilla
cool. all valid points. :) :) :) Alex Kotchnev wrote: Fernando, you're so right, I will probably have to wait a few weeks or months. I mentioned something, as there have been a couple of discussions on the subject on the list, and on top of that Howard asked what the showstoppers were to rele

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Alex Kotchnev
Fernando, you're so right, I will probably have to wait a few weeks or months. I mentioned something, as there have been a couple of discussions on the subject on the list, and on top of that Howard asked what the showstoppers were to releasing 5.1 . I think that this is a good way to rephrase t

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
Ah, check. I'm going to check on that, as I don't think it's a quota, it's a scaling factor. My apps on my own load balancing infrastructure can't do better - if I put more threads up, I still start to incur more latency because of context-switching costs. I think it's a warning that if

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Fernando Padilla
Cool. I think this conversation is probably over.. as to let's wait one week to see what Howard comes up with.. But let me clarify what I was talking about: I am talking about concurrent requests (which in my mind translates to # of request handler threads in tomcat or jetty). And the number

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
You're not allowed to have any concurrent threads. What do you mean? Concurrent requests? There's 30 seconds max response on those. There's 10 cron jobs available... I'm confused. The docs say: "The total number of requests to the app. The per-minute quotas for application with billing

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Fernando Padilla
Don't forget right now GAE/Java is really really beta. You are only allowed to have 30 cuncurrent threads? Unless your app is only serving a small number of users, I can't vote to use GAE/Java for actual production apps, not yet.. And like someone just said, this just came out a week ago. G

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Jun Tsai
I will use gae to build some small app.It's free. 2009/4/17 Otho > Yes, the missing referential integrity, the (factual) need to duplicate > data > over multiple classes for fast reads and the resulting necessity to > manually > cascade writing operations will be a pita for most applications. > >

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Otho
Yes, the missing referential integrity, the (factual) need to duplicate data over multiple classes for fast reads and the resulting necessity to manually cascade writing operations will be a pita for most applications. 2009/4/17 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Ot

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Otho wrote: > In how far shoult GAE be a showstopper for anything? It is neither the > promised land, nor some gift from the gods. I would rather find it a > showstopper, if shady compromises were made just to cater to a somewhat > castrated platform which is actua

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-17 Thread Otho
In how far shoult GAE be a showstopper for anything? It is neither the promised land, nor some gift from the gods. I would rather find it a showstopper, if shady compromises were made just to cater to a somewhat castrated platform which is actually only beneficial, if you should happen to have the

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-16 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
Well, I did, but I wasn't allowed to say anything. ;p Christian. On 16-Apr-09, at 23:58 , Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: Em Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:42:45 -0300, Alex Kotchnev escreveu: I'm not sure about everyone else, but for me this is a BIG issue and is one of the reasons holding me

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-16 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Em Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:42:45 -0300, Alex Kotchnev escreveu: I'm not sure about everyone else, but for me this is a BIG issue and is one of the reasons holding me back from moving my app to the 5.1 beta. Most likely I'll hold off on upgrading to 5.1 final if it doesn't support GAE. The funny

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-16 Thread Alex Kotchnev
I'm not sure about everyone else, but for me this is a BIG issue and is one of the reasons holding me back from moving my app to the 5.1 beta. Most likely I'll hold off on upgrading to 5.1 final if it doesn't support GAE. Howard was asking earlier about any showstoppers preventing 5.1 from moving

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-16 Thread Christian Köberl
I grepped over the tapestry-core sources for "javax.xml.stream" and only found them imported in TemplateParser and StaxTemplateParser. Would it then be sufficient to just contribute another TemplateParser which isn't using Woodstox (maybe the one from 5.0.1.8)? I just tried to eliminate Woodsto

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-13 Thread Christian Köberl
Can you post your GAE application's folder structure (also how you integrated tapestry jars in it) and if possible the source of the demo app. I tried 5.0.18 version and I am getting NoClassDefFoundError on an inner class corelib.components.Loop$1 I get the same error on the local GAE test serv

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-12 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
I'm getting the same issues. Very frustrating. Something strange is going on with the Instantiator code that isn't being politely treated by the appengine. Christian. On 12-Apr-09, at 07:05 , ஸ்ரீராம் கீர்த்தி wrote: Running a GAE app locally via eclipse and using tapestry 5.0.18, I g

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-12 Thread ஸ்ரீராம் கீர்த்தி
Running a GAE app locally via eclipse and using tapestry 5.0.18, I get the following exception: Actually I am getting the same exception when running locally using 5.1.0.3 and 5.1.0.4. HTTP ERROR: 500 org/apache/tapestry5/corelib/components/Loop$1 RequestURI=/ Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFou

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-12 Thread ஸ்ரீராம் கீர்த்தி
Thanks Christian K, Can you post your GAE application's folder structure (also how you integrated tapestry jars in it) and if possible the source of the demo app. I tried 5.0.18 version and I am getting NoClassDefFoundError on an inner class corelib.components.Loop$1 Thanks, Sriram Keerthy On Su

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-12 Thread Markus Lux
I grepped over the tapestry-core sources for "javax.xml.stream" and only found them imported in TemplateParser and StaxTemplateParser. Would it then be sufficient to just contribute another TemplateParser which isn't using Woodstox (maybe the one from 5.0.1.8)? ben.gidley wrote: > > I have jus

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-12 Thread Ben Gidley
I have just spent a bit of time looking into this - the reason is because google have decided to not allow javax.xml.stream.* to be used on appengine. Woodstox extends classes in javax.xml.stream - therefore it doesn't. The bad bit here is, unless Google change their policy, this would suggest ther

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-12 Thread Christian Köberl
I have Tapestry 5.0.18 working: http://tapestry-mail.appspot.com/ Tapestry 5.1.0.2 does not work on GAE - there seems to be a problem with the Woodstox Stax2 lib. -- Chris http://derkoe.wordpress.com/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Java-support-added-to-Google-AppEngin

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-12 Thread Ben Gidley
I am also trying to get this working and have hit a similar issue (I am using the latest snapshot). It all works fine locally it is only a problem when uploaded to Google App Engine. It seems to be because google app engine has restricted the XMLInputFactory and that seems pretty crucial to tapestr

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-08 Thread Markus Lux
I'm also trying to get the latest Tapestry running on Java App Engine but now I got stuck. Uncaught exception from servlet java.lang.RuntimeException: Exception constructing service 'TemplateParser': Error invoking constructor org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.TemplateParserImpl(Map, boolea

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-08 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
Oh, I'll be blogging. Christian. On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Christian Edward Gruber wrote: I'm already on it. Nice! Please post your impressions here or at a blog. :) -- Thiago ---

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-08 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Christian Edward Gruber wrote: > I'm already on it. Nice! Please post your impressions here or at a blog. :) -- Thiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additi

Re: Java support added to Google AppEngine

2009-04-08 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
I'm already on it. Christian. On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: Hi! Yesterday it was announced that the Google AppEngine now supports Java applications. Some libraries are already supported, others not. JavaMail is supported, Hibernate isn't, JPA is, JSF supppo