RE: custom namespace

2006-06-16 Thread James Carman
L PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:03 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace Dunno about that. I haven't tried Rails and am not familiar with the implications of COP. I was agreeing with the sentiment against using HiveMind for everyday things. I had a perfectly go

RE: custom namespace

2006-06-16 Thread Gentry, Michael \(Contractor\)
OTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:03 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace Dunno about that. I haven't tried Rails and am not familiar with the implications of COP. I was agreeing with the sentiment against using HiveMind for everyday things. I had a perfectly good se

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Bryan Lewis
I feel the way Geoff expressed. James Carman wrote: >So, you want Tapestry to switch to convention-oriented programming (a la >Rails)? > > >-Original Message- >From: Bryan Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:20 PM >To: Tapestry users >Su

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
nd of conventions do you have in mind for Tapestry to enforce? -Original Message- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:48 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace Geez, I need to socialize more here. We have 14 developers. Geoff On 6/15/06

RE: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread James Carman
So, what kind of conventions do you have in mind for Tapestry to enforce? -Original Message- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:48 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace Geez, I need to socialize more here. We have 14 developers

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
names map to classnames in the default page package). Rails gets a *lot* > done by just using conventions. > > -Original Message- > From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:30 PM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: custom namespa

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
m: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:30 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace COP cool acronym. What is wrong with conventions? (I have never used Rails) Geoff On 6/15/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, you want T

RE: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread James Carman
30 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace COP cool acronym. What is wrong with conventions? (I have never used Rails) Geoff On 6/15/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, you want Tapestry to switch to convention-oriented programming (a la > Rails)? > >

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:20 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace +1 for that rant. Geoff Longman wrote: > Good God No! > > While I love the idea of auto discovery of libraries, every time I see > a quick suggestion to use Hivemind I cringe. > > IMO HM is *

RE: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread James Carman
So, you want Tapestry to switch to convention-oriented programming (a la Rails)? -Original Message- From: Bryan Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:20 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace +1 for that rant. Geoff Longman wrote: > Good God

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Bryan Lewis
#x27;d do it. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Norbert Sándor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:27 PM >> To: Tapestry users >> Subject: Re: custom namespace >> >> I use many such component libraries which means that b

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
iginal Message- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:31 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace You run the risk of me going into the whole sob story about T4 and how to fix it in T5! :-) Why isn't the .library file enough config? Just p

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Norbert Sándor
hors" should be knowledgeable enough with HiveMind to at least do a contribution... Something like that. -Original Message- From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:09 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace Good God No! Whil

RE: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread James Carman
sday, June 15, 2006 2:31 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace You run the risk of me going into the whole sob story about T4 and how to fix it in T5! :-) Why isn't the .library file enough config? Just put it in the META-INF dir of the jar and have Tapestry autodiscover it. ?

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
lt namespace via a symbol override contribution or > > something. That's the way I'd do it. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Norbert Sándor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:27 PM > > To: Tapestry users > >

RE: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread James Carman
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:09 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace Good God No! While I love the idea of auto discovery of libraries, every time I see a quick suggestion to use Hivemind I cringe. IMO HM is *required* to do too many everyday things in T4.

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
l Message- > From: Norbert Sándor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:27 PM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: custom namespace > > I use many such component libraries which means that because of this > issue, many libraries must be specified "by ha

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
ault namespace via a symbol override contribution or something. That's the way I'd do it. -Original Message- From: Norbert Sándor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:27 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace I use many such component librarie

RE: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread James Carman
e- From: Norbert Sándor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:27 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: custom namespace I use many such component libraries which means that because of this issue, many libraries must be specified "by hand". Not a big problem, just

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Norbert Sándor
I use many such component libraries which means that because of this issue, many libraries must be specified "by hand". Not a big problem, just tried to avoid it :) Regards, Norbi Geoff Longman wrote: Yes, that's true. But is that really a problem? Contrib has the same issue. Geoff On 6/15/

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Longman
Yes, that's true. But is that really a problem? Contrib has the same issue. Geoff On 6/15/06, Norbert Sándor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks! This means that I must force the user of my component library to define my library with a fix alias in the .application file. Regards, Norbi Jesse K

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-15 Thread Norbert Sándor
Thanks! This means that I must force the user of my component library to define my library with a fix alias in the .application file. Regards, Norbi Jesse Kuhnert wrote: You mean like contrib or tacos? I think the namespace name can be tied to a .library file via your .application configurat

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-14 Thread Geoff Longman
Short answer is you can't. The namespaces are created by parsing .application or .library files. Except for Framework.library - which is a special case, every library must be declared in a "parent" namespace specification file as that's the mechanism Tapestry has to "discover" nested namespaces.

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-14 Thread Norbert Sándor
What I exactly need is to be able to access a page defined in a library, which library is NOT defined in the .application file, therefore it is not accessible using the common namespaces. What would be the best way for this? Regards, Norbi Jesse Kuhnert wrote: You mean like contrib or tacos? I

Re: custom namespace

2006-06-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
You mean like contrib or tacos? I think the namespace name can be tied to a .library file via your .application configuration. (this I'm less sure of as the best solution) On 6/14/06, Norbert Sándor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, By default there are 2 namespaces: framework and application. Ho