Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-13 Thread Joel Halbert
ditto. -1 forum -Original Message- From: Christian Edward Gruber Reply-To: Tapestry users To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:29:10 -0400 -1 on forum for the same reasons. On 13-May-09, at 07:36 , Alfie Kirkpatrick wrote

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-13 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
will simply act to fragment discussions which are an invaluable information source. Best regards, Alfie. -Original Message- From: liigo [mailto:com.li...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 May 2009 03:02 To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma +1 for Official docs and User

RE: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-13 Thread Alfie Kirkpatrick
regards, Alfie. -Original Message- From: liigo [mailto:com.li...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 May 2009 03:02 To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma +1 for Official docs and User docs, and +1 for tapestry forum

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-12 Thread liigo
+1 for Official docs and User docs, and +1 for tapestry forum 2009/5/1 Otho > I would suggest splitting the documentation. > > There should be the reference documentation by the creators/commiters of > the > project, whis is organized like a book covering all the different aspects > of > tapestr

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-12 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I'll look into all that. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Ben Gidley wrote: > I think the wiki is a great idea > I was just thinking of adding some notes to it but I can't figure out where > to add them at http://tapestry.formos.com/wiki/dashboard.action. > > It could do with a home page helping

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-12 Thread Ben Gidley
I think the wiki is a great idea I was just thinking of adding some notes to it but I can't figure out where to add them at http://tapestry.formos.com/wiki/dashboard.action. It could do with a home page helping people find which space to use etc. Would it also be possible to update the Apache wik

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-08 Thread Sergey Didenko
-1 for forums +1 for wiki Wiki is much better to create "persistent" knowledge, imho. We can try it open for guests thus it would be easier to start for occasional users. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apa

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-03 Thread Piero Sartini
> Is someone still using own mail to receive these :) Yes... that means normally there should be a lists@ alias for sending mails to the lists - need to check whats wrong with my smtp setup. > I've used nabble for a while, and it really rocks. Try it out > > http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-f302.h

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-03 Thread Ville Virtanen
gt; - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Solving-the-T

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-03 Thread Piero Sartini
On Freitag, 1. Mai 2009 19:04:53 Otho wrote: > The perfect solution and topping cream would be a forum/community system > written in Tapestry of course, as a showcase and demonstration of its > capabilities as well as a solid starting point for Tapestry apps. But I am > aware of the effort and time

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-02 Thread Piero Sartini
On Freitag, 1. Mai 2009 20:09:07 Ulrich Stärk wrote: > As I understand, CLAs only have to be signed by documentation contributors > if the exported wiki documentation is bundled with the release. If its > purely online, I don't think that this is necessary. Thanks for pointing this out. My assumpt

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Ulrich Stärk
As I understand, CLAs only have to be signed by documentation contributors if the exported wiki documentation is bundled with the release. If its purely online, I don't think that this is necessary. On the other hand, CLAs also give the users an assurance that the generated content will be freel

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread manuel aldana
yes, I know nabble, and I think it is great. I also think usenet is generally great, but at some point of support it does not scale. At mailinglists you don't have topic categories + sticky notes which I think are quite important for navigation. Further more it lacks and a notification system

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Otho
2009/5/1 Alex Kotchnev > -1 on the forum. nabble, markmail and others do an excellent job at > providing a forum interface to a mailing list. I would really contend the "excellent". It is crude and not really useably imo. The main point for a forum would be exactly your second point: > The co

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Alex Kotchnev
Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma From: Andy Pahne Date: 05/01/2009 11:45 except when they are down, just like the hibernate forums recently. I always preferred mailing lists... just my 2 cents manuel aldana schrieb: > Otho schrieb: >> And lastly I would suggest sett

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Joel Halbert
f tying it into Maven. I for one don't use Maven, and the perceived additional complexity may put others off experimenting & using Tap. -Original Message- From: Otho Reply-To: Tapestry users To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma Date: Fri, 1 Ma

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > It might be possible for a wiki to operate in the same way ... we > could have a Tapestry 5.1 space and, at the start of 5.2, we could > copy it to form the Tapestry 5.2 space. In this way, > the documentation for prior releases would be

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Ben Gidley
I must also say I prefer mailing lists - it is easier to follow it. If you want a forum why not use the nabble or markmail interfaces to the mailing lists? e.g. http://tapestry.markmail.org/ or http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry---User-f340.html Ben Gidley www.gidley.co.uk b...@gidley.co.uk On Fri,

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Andy Pahne
except when they are down, just like the hibernate forums recently. I always preferred mailing lists... just my 2 cents manuel aldana schrieb: Otho schrieb: And lastly I would suggest setting up a forum. Information is more easily organized there and searching is more convenient than wíth

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread manuel aldana
Otho schrieb: And lastly I would suggest setting up a forum. Information is more easily organized there and searching is more convenient than wíth a mailing list alone. I would think that the barrier of contributing to a forum is lower than that of contributing to / asking on a mailinglist. Well,

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-30 Thread Otho
I would suggest splitting the documentation. There should be the reference documentation by the creators/commiters of the project, whis is organized like a book covering all the different aspects of tapestry 5 in a reference manner eg like spring or hibernate docs. These are tied to the release ve

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-30 Thread Piero Sartini
> I don't think Tapestry's wiki, http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry, is up > to the task. Confluence is available with apache as well. There is already a space available at http://cwiki.apache.org/TAPESTRY/ ... maybe its just a matter of adding content to it? Anyway.. on Tapestry360 someone would

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-29 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Christian Edward Gruber wrote: ... project which could be versioned (or at least released) on a different cycle. This could keep (for any branch such as 5.0, 5.1) the docs as fresh as you wanted to r

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-29 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
LOL. You got me, Howard. Sorry. I have even visited them, but in my caffeine starved brain I forgot entirely. Christian. On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: A second, orthogonal pattern is to generate site-documentation on a nightly build and put it up at a standard l

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-29 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
gt; On 29-Apr-09, at 19:02 , Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > >> One of the issues with T5 documentation is that it is written in Maven >> APT format. This is better than HTML or even various XML docbook-lite >> kind of things, but it ties documentation down to the Tapestry release &g

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-29 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: One of the issues with T5 documentation is that it is written in Maven APT format. This is better than HTML or even various XML docbook-lite kind of things, but it ties documentation down to the Tapestry release cycle. Perhaps it would be better if all documentation was mo

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-29 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
reports. Christian. On 29-Apr-09, at 19:02 , Howard Lewis Ship wrote: One of the issues with T5 documentation is that it is written in Maven APT format. This is better than HTML or even various XML docbook-lite kind of things, but it ties documentation down to the Tapestry release cycle. Perhaps

Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-04-29 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
One of the issues with T5 documentation is that it is written in Maven APT format. This is better than HTML or even various XML docbook-lite kind of things, but it ties documentation down to the Tapestry release cycle. Perhaps it would be better if all documentation was moved onto a live wiki

Re: [T5] documentation and reference for templates

2007-08-06 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:39:42 -0300, Daniel Jue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are some exceptions, such as the parameter component that you can use along with the If component: You are currently logged in You are not logged in. Please log in first. I really prefe

Re: [T5] documentation and reference for templates

2007-08-06 Thread Daniel Jue
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/index.html http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowTos Almost every tag is where componentName is part of the T5 core library, or a component you've made. This may be as close as you can get to what you requested: http://tapestry.apache.or

Re: [T5] documentation and reference for templates

2007-08-06 Thread Chris Lewis
Check out the docs on component templates (pages are components): http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/templates.html Michal Žeravík wrote: Hi. I'm trying (and would like) to learn more about Tapestry5, going through tutorials and articles on apache.org website, but missing

[T5] documentation and reference for templates

2007-08-06 Thread Michal Žeravík
Hi. I'm trying (and would like) to learn more about Tapestry5, going through tutorials and articles on apache.org website, but missing comprehensive list of tags used in templates and what should I do to make them alive. Noticed that http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd is empty. I

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sorry! English is the most popular language in the world, not Chinese, currently at lease, I known. No more non-technical mess. :) 在 Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:54:13 +0800,Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: please stop these kind of talk , if you have more to say , please in private mail , thanks

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-27 Thread Vincent
please stop these kind of talk , if you have more to say , please in private mail , thanks. On 27/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 在 Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:55:39 +0800,小司 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: > 说的对。主要是英语实在是不好。惭愧呀。能读懂就不错。在加上技术上一些术 > 语。学起来很慢。看来只有提高我自己的英语水平了。谢谢你的提醒。 是啊,全球都统一说汉语

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
在 Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:55:39 +0800,小司 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: 说的对。主要是英语实在是不好。惭愧呀。能读懂就不错。在加上技术上一些术 语。学起来很慢。看来只有提高我自己的英语水平了。谢谢你的提醒。 是啊,全球都统一说汉语多好,哈哈。再等 50~100 年估计是有希望的。 本人看英文文档也是借助金山词霸乱翻。 在 [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: 在 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:30:11 +0800,小司 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-26 Thread 小司
说的对。主要是英语实在是不好。惭愧呀。能读懂就不错。在加上技术上一些术语。学起来很慢。看来只有提高我自己的英语水平了。谢谢你的提醒。 在 [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: 在 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:30:11 +0800,小司 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: > I'am a chinese user.every user should know Tapestry5 's request life > cycle.i'm beginner. > I want to get a detailed Tape

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-26 Thread #Cyrille37#
蝈蝈龙 a écrit : > Why do you emphasize you are a Chinese? It's really not necessary !! perhaps to advertizing that is english is not perfect. sometime I tell where I come from to acknoledge people on my poor english. but it is not the subject of this list, isn't it ;-) cyrille. > > 在07-6-26,小司 <

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-26 Thread 蝈蝈龙
Why do you emphasize you are a Chinese? It's really not necessary !! 在07-6-26,小司 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: I'am a chinese user.every user should know Tapestry5 's request life cycle.i'm beginner. I want to get a detailed Tapestry5 request life cycle.Could you provide it in your tapestry5 do

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
在 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:30:11 +0800,小司 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: I'am a chinese user.every user should know Tapestry5 's request life cycle.i'm beginner. I want to get a detailed Tapestry5 request life cycle.Could you provide it in your tapestry5 document?? 是不是中国人都不喜欢看文档?还是懒得去翻?明明文档就在那里,还要别人把链接

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-25 Thread Steven Woolley
example code and/or example values for the various properties. Most of these items use tapestry specific descriptions, with some examples it would be much easier to understand what's being described. Daniel Gredler wrote: Hi all, In an effort to improve the T5 documentation, I'

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-25 Thread 小司
I'am a chinese user.every user should know Tapestry5 's request life cycle.i'm beginner. I want to get a detailed Tapestry5 request life cycle.Could you provide it in your tapestry5 document?? -- 得与失都是生活 Get and Lost are all life.

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-25 Thread Martin Grotzke
and/or example values for the various > >> properties. Most of these items use tapestry specific descriptions, > >> with some examples it would be much easier to understand what's being > >> described. > >> > >> > >> Daniel Gredler wrote: > &

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-23 Thread Marcell Manfrin Barbacena
> > Hi all, > > In an effort to improve the T5 documentation, I'm going to start going > through the mailing list, looking at questions that have been asked, and > trying to identify aspects of the framework that should be, but aren't, > well > documented. If you have

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-23 Thread petros
The note at the end of this page http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/localization.html Petros Daniel Gredler wrote: > > Hi all, > > In an effort to improve the T5 documentation, I'm going to start going > through the mailing list, looking at ques

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-22 Thread Robert Sanders
fort to improve the T5 documentation, I'm going to start going through the mailing list, looking at questions that have been asked, and trying to identify aspects of the framework that should be, but aren't, well documented. If you have any suggestions, feel free to respond here or raise

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-22 Thread Vic Cekvenich
properties. Most of these items use tapestry specific descriptions, with some examples it would be much easier to understand what's being described. Daniel Gredler wrote: Hi all, In an effort to improve the T5 documentation, I'm going to start going through the mailing list, looking at

Re: [T5] Documentation

2007-06-22 Thread Robert Sanders
xamples it would be much easier to understand what's being described. Daniel Gredler wrote: Hi all, In an effort to improve the T5 documentation, I'm going to start going through the mailing list, looking at questions that have been asked, and trying to identify aspects of the framework

[T5] Documentation

2007-06-22 Thread Daniel Gredler
Hi all, In an effort to improve the T5 documentation, I'm going to start going through the mailing list, looking at questions that have been asked, and trying to identify aspects of the framework that should be, but aren't, well documented. If you have any suggestions, feel free to re