Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:49:39 -0200, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> I do this in Struts (with my own S2 json plugin) > > Point to Tapestry, which does this out-of-the-box without plugins! :) Well,

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
) writes a Struts 2 plugin for that, which seems to be a pretty complicated task. > > On Thursday, 26 January 2012, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> Please don't get me wrong, there are many things in which Tapestry >> beats other frameworks. Not only Struts. Look at the

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:05:33 -0200, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> I expect my users to have JS on these days. And if I need JS I do a >> webapplication, not just a website. Websites can be eas

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:03:17 -0200, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > I can't imagine how doing this in Tapestry wouldn't be easier than Struts, > any version: > > package a.b.c.pages; &

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > Yep, Struts 2 isn't bad, but Tapestry and almost any other > component-oriented framework, even JSF, is way better than Struts 2. And > please, never ever think about adopting Struts 1. It sucks in every single > way possible

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Struts 1 is totally different to Struts 2. I use Apache Cayenne with Struts 2, this saves me lots on persistence layer too. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Akira Ikeda wrote: > Don't know about Struts2 but last time i worked on a project using Struts it > have duplicated code everywhere eg: ac

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I think this > might be the case with GWT). Perhaps you could try turning off javascript > in the browser then viewing each of your POC sites and get a feel for what > a crawler will see. I know there are tools to help with SEO out there. > > Lance > > On Thursday, 26 January 201

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey guys, while I agree that T5 is amazing I must say Struts2 is not so bad as it is discussed here. There are far more bad frameworks out there. At least S2 is not dead, it is actively maintained and developed. Anyway - T5 does have some pretty cool features (class reloading, it is amazing, or co

Re: Class reloading

2012-01-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks Howard, I will try to look into it. Cheers Christian On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > ComponentClassInstantiatorSource service is a good place to start, as > well as the Plastic code. > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier > w

Re: Class reloading

2012-01-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
n the context of > Tapestry most would agree that it works well ... and it's impossible > to go back. > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> Hello folks >> >> recently a Customer asked me to do some stuff with Tapestry. Being a >

Class reloading

2012-01-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello folks recently a Customer asked me to do some stuff with Tapestry. Being a Struts user for a good while and trying out many other frameworks, Tapestry impressed me lots. One of the things which made me eyes pop out of their holes is the automatic class reloading you guys have implemented. It