A UI-Design change I had to turn @Submit into @LinkSubmit.
After that, I got warnings form @tacos:DirtyFormWarning when
the user hits the save-button.
I figured that would be due to @LinkSubmit setting it's name
on a hidden field to indicate the link that submitted the form.
So I added a script
This works for apache dbcp ... I hope it's similar for proxool
_
Default Config für Testumgebung
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> From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent
.html
==
// css will make the
whole tag have "center" align
jwcid="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> //
but, how to not implemented it in this tag and
//
change it align to "left" (only this block statement) ?
I have a shopping cart, and on a page I need two buttons, one to Pay
with Credit Card, which goes to my PaymentInfo page, and then another
button Pay with PayPal, which will do a http post to the paypal pages.
Which component should I be using for the PayPal button, and how do I
redirect the user t
I'm *very* interested in seeing such a service. I want to keep in line
with using all of tapestry's i8n and be able to send multi-part mime
messages which have html and plain text.
Please do put something up on the wiki and let us all know.
goody goody.
-mike
Henri Dupre wrote:
I don't ag
Yes,IMO it would be better if those files were called *.jwc.xml and *.page.xml
in this case IDEs would not need additional configuration to recognize the
files. Hibernate uses the approach with hbm.xml and it works wery well.
Konstantin Ignatyev
PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth,
Hi all
Just a question which popped up recently in my mind : why are the templates
pages named .page and not .xml ?
It's not like another .xml would have annoyed anyone, is it ? On the other
hand, .xml files would be automatically detected and dealed accordingly but
all tools, whereas .page are
Geoff,
THANKS that worked great!
regards,
Mark
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From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/16/2006 1:54 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Passing a byte array into a component???
public abstract IBinding getByteArrayBinding();
public (or private up
I do have an answer for this one Dan, but would prefer to just write up a
wiki page later as I think it will probably come up again :)
On 5/16/06, Dan Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm considering putting some ajax stuff into a tapestry application we
are building and I'd like to pick people
public abstract IBinding getByteArrayBinding();
public (or private up to you) byte [] getByteArray() {
IBinding binding = getByteArrayBinding();
if (binding == null)
return null;
return (byte[])binding.getObject();
}
On 5/16/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A byte arr
A byte array is an Object :-)
geoff
On 5/16/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Geoff,
T3, but custom wants an object right?
thanks,
Mark
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From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/16/2006 1:19 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Passing a byte
Should i put this code on the PageBeginRender method?
Hermann Yesid Redondo Eslava
Ingeniería de Sistemas
IT-GROUP
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From: Andreas Bulling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users
Sent: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:54:05 +0200
Subject: Re: Content Type
> On 16. Mai 20
Geoff,
T3, but custom wants an object right?
thanks,
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Geoff Longman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 5/16/2006 1:19 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Passing a byte array into a component???
T3?
You can always use 'custom'
Geoff
On 5/16/06, Mark Sta
T3?
You can always use 'custom'
Geoff
On 5/16/06, Mark Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All,
I am trying to pass in a byte[] into a component. However, I only seem to have
"in" available. And it seems to be null when I go looking later.
thoughts?
thanks,
Mark
--
The Spindle guy. htt
All,
I am trying to pass in a byte[] into a component. However, I only seem to have
"in" available. And it seems to be null when I go looking later.
thoughts?
thanks,
Mark
Correct. For your other classes, if you wish them to have DAOs injected
into them, then you'll have to have HiveMind manage them.
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Bulling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andreas Bulling
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:19 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject:
Refactor will not enable if:
1. tag has no valid jwcid attribute
2. an attribute has an unclosed quote
3. an attribute appears more than once in the tag
4. an attribute has no value (no equals + quotes).
Geoff
On 5/16/06, Joel Trunick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can't get the Refactor - move
On 16. Mai 2006 - 13:54:01, Chris Chiappone wrote:
| Ok, it appears most of my migration to Tapernate seems to be working well.
| My question is somewhat unrealated to tapernate but maybe someone could
| guide me in the right direction. For pages and components that can inject
| the Dao seem to wo
I'm considering putting some ajax stuff into a tapestry application we
are building and I'd like to pick peoples brains a little:
- How testable is it? Can you use htmlunit at all?
- How have you found the development speed to be?
--
Dan Adams
Software Engineer
Interactive Factory
617.235.5857
Unicorn? Peugot symbol?
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From: "Peter Svensson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tapestry users"
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo
Hmm. The old one wasn't too good, but the new one feels more .. feminine in
a way. Also mor
I can't get the Refactor - move implicit spec. to enable in Spindle. Is
there some trick?
I'm using Spindle 3.2.14 under Eclipse 3.1.1.
Joel
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Ok, it appears most of my migration to Tapernate seems to be working well.
My question is somewhat unrealated to tapernate but maybe someone could
guide me in the right direction. For pages and components that can inject
the Dao seem to work like a charm. The problem is I have a handfull of
clas
Sounds great..can't wait to get my hands on that :o)
Can't thank you enough for this...
On 5/16/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would probably do it as a generalized HiveMind library first which
includes an AcegiInterceptor implementation of some sort. Then, I'd write
a
t
WellWhen I did it I was using my own home-brewed hivemind hibernate
service.
When a new Session was about to be bound to an incoming thread I would:
-) Use the SessionStateManager service to get the incoming users Id
information
-) Call a stored procedure that set the global per-transaction
IFormComponent.getClientId() was created specifically to address this.
Use "ognl:components.bip.clientId" as Aj suggested.
On 5/16/06, Aj Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If the component is an instance of IFormComponent then you can get the
id with "ognl:components.bip.clientId".
If not th
Good point Jesse - but wouldn't you then be required
to have all your queries wrapped in procedures? I'm interested to
know because I'd consider using oracle standard for a new project
if we could do something FGAC-esque with Oracle standard (or even express).
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And now, the required:
Is it done yet? Do you have a demo? ;-)
James Carman wrote:
> I would probably do it as a generalized HiveMind library first which
> includes an AcegiInterceptor implementation of some sort. Then, I'd write a
> tapestry-spe
If the component is an instance of IFormComponent then you can get the
id with "ognl:components.bip.clientId".
If not then I think the only option is to set a unique id on the
component yourself and then call "ognl:components.bip.id"... You can get
some help adding uniqueness to an id by using
I would probably do it as a generalized HiveMind library first which
includes an AcegiInterceptor implementation of some sort. Then, I'd write a
tapestry-specific library on top of that that wires itself into Tapestry
somehow.
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From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's wright, and the ACEGI feature list looks promisingly but I don't
use spring up to now, only tapestry & hibernate, and I don't want to
maintain to many references to external libraries.
If the requirements can be easily fulfilled with the combination of
already used libraries I'm taking th
You don't need oracle fine grained access control to do the same thing.
As long as your DB supports the notion of stored procs / global (transaction
bound) variables you can do the same exact thing without it.
On 5/16/06, Carl Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Unfortunetly, I'm using Postgr
That would be AWESOME...
On 5/16/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I did it for the Sprint transaction stuff. I'm sure I can do it for
the Acegi stuff. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: Tape
Unfortunetly, I'm using PostgreSQL.
Thanks
Denis McCarthy wrote:
If you happen to be using oracle enterprise edition I'd highly recommend
using Acegi in conjunction with Oracle Fine Grained Access Control (FGAC)
for database access checking.
We've got a simple subclass of a datasource that ove
If you happen to be using oracle enterprise edition I'd highly recommend
using Acegi in conjunction with Oracle Fine Grained Access Control (FGAC)
for database access checking.
We've got a simple subclass of a datasource that overrides getConnection()
and sets the users Oracle context. This keeps
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GO JAMES :-D
James Carman wrote:
> Well, I did it for the Sprint transaction stuff. I'm sure I can do it for
> the Acegi stuff. :-)
>
>
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> From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006
Well, I did it for the Sprint transaction stuff. I'm sure I can do it for
the Acegi stuff. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Best pratice - CRUD Security - Tapestry 4.0
I agree that ACE
I agree that ACEGI fits very nicely with Tapestry. Still, it introduces two
technologies for the team to learn, ACEGI and Spring.
Having chosen hivemind as the IOC container to use for some projects i don't
find the option to also use Spring in the same projects a very good one.
If only there was
Oh, you mean to limit the results of a query based on security permissions?
Then, yes, filters are the way to go. :-)
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From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:03 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Best pratice - CRUD Security - Tapestry
Or if you're using hibernate you can use filters.
On 5/16/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You could put an interceptor on your services if you wish.
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From: Andreas Bulling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andreas Bulling
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1
You could put an interceptor on your services if you wish.
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Bulling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andreas Bulling
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:57 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Best pratice - CRUD Security - Tapestry 4.0
On 16. Mai 2006 - 10:
On 16. Mai 2006 - 10:45:45, Brian K. Wallace wrote:
| This is where I stick with ACEGI being unobtrusive. Not discounting any
| other method of doing it at all, but I found that with ACEGI I add a
| hook into "login/logout" pages and there's no other intrusion into my
| Tapestry applications outsid
On 16. Mai 2006 - 10:21:13, yesidredondo wrote:
| Can anyone tell me how to put the content type of a page in tapestry, if i
| want a page to be of xml or xls format?
HttpServletResponse response =
getRequestCycle().getRequestContext().getResponse();
try {
response.setCont
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This is where I stick with ACEGI being unobtrusive. Not discounting any
other method of doing it at all, but I found that with ACEGI I add a
hook into "login/logout" pages and there's no other intrusion into my
Tapestry applications outside the configu
It's Tomcat security in combination with a PageValidateListener that
solves this problem for me. In each page that needs special security
there is a call to request.isUserInRole("..."). If the user isn't
allowed, a PageRedirectException is thrown to redirect to an allowed
page or to the error p
The html input fields do have a name attribute? They are inside a form?
The form is submitted?
cycle.getParameter("fieldname") works for me.
Bode, Bianca schrieb:
Looks like the generated textfields cannot be accessed through
getParameter/getParameters
I've debugged and manually checked the Que
Never mind, I was to quick with my reply ;)
I forgot to add the name attribute to the generated fields :)
-Original Message-
From: Bode, Bianca
Sent: dinsdag 16 mei 2006 17:37
To: Tapestry users
Subject: RE: Accessing unbound textfields
Looks like the generated textfields cannot be acce
Change submit method from POST to GET and check if the
new textfields are indeed included in the submit.
Bode, Bianca wrote:
Looks like the generated textfields cannot be accessed through
getParameter/getParameters
I've debugged and manually checked the QueryParameterMap of the
RequestCycle, but
Looks like the generated textfields cannot be accessed through
getParameter/getParameters
I've debugged and manually checked the QueryParameterMap of the
RequestCycle, but they're nowhere in sight :(
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From: Andreas Andreou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 mei 2
Unfortunately I started this project before hibernate had support for
annotations so I'm using the old style mapping files and don't really want
to change this until I have some extra time on my hands. I would be a nice
feature though.
On 5/16/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are yo
Can anyone tell me how to put the content type of a page in tapestry, if i
want a page to be of xml or xls format?
Hermann Yesid Redondo Eslava
Ingeniería de Sistemas
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Are you using annotations to define your pojos? If so, you should check out
the hibernate-apt thing that I use in the example project. It will
automatically generate your hibernate.cfg.xml file by searching your source
path for all classes with the @Entity annotation.
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Excellent thanks!! I actually had all the files but the hibernate.cfg.xml in
WEB-INF/classes when I started with this. Looks like I'll finally be able
to allow lazy loading with hibernate. I'm hoping to see a major performance
increase with tapernate.
On 5/16/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTE
Send me some good lawyer jokes if you have them. ;-)
-Serge
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Actually, this is not a proper approach to this issue for two very
significant reasons (and having recently seen one of the biggest "legal"
teams at work, you very
Well, there lot's of different ways you can achieve this. I would suggest
you use commons-configuration(
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/configuration/), it's really simple to use
and very robust. You can find examples on the web site.
Hope this helps.
On 5/16/06, Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTECTED
Well, i have default values for the parameters set in the component's
annotations but i would like a way to set a different default for those
parameters across the system via some sort of configuration value. It
would be like if the tapestry @Form component had a default value for a
parameter and y
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Carl Pelletier wrote:
> Hi everyone, I'm currently building a web site and looking for
> documentations on how-to or best practice of implementing Role security
> in Tapestry 4.0.
>
> It`s a Simple CRUD application and we need to give some security to
Hi everyone, I'm currently building a web site and looking for
documentations on how-to or best practice of implementing Role security
in Tapestry 4.0.
It`s a Simple CRUD application and we need to give some security to users.
What the best way of doing it? Using the Tomcat security? Creating m
Try moving your xml files into WEB-INF/classes.
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From: Chris Chiappone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:48 AM
To: Tapestry List
Subject: Tapernate configuration questions
I am attempting to migrate my application to make use of Tapernate. I
pu
I am attempting to migrate my application to make use of Tapernate. I
pulled down the SVN and understand most of the configuration. The problem I
believe I am having is my application is not mapping my hibernate resources.
Here is my Tapernate contribution in hivemind.xml
hibernate.cfg
Thanks for your suggestion Lothar.
But I think it will be faster/easier to just use the
getParameter/getParameters methods from the IRequestCycle after form
submission to retrieve the generated fields, as Andreas was suggesting.
Kind regards, Bianca
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Actually, this is not a proper approach to this issue for two very
significant reasons (and having recently seen one of the biggest "legal"
teams at work, you very seldom get a second chance to tell them to "do
their job" :-)]:
1. PracticalBrowserSni
OK that's what I need, thank you :)
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Andreou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 mei 2006 16:39
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Accessing unbound textfields
See
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/tapestry/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/
IRequestCycle.
Create an own component, derived from AbstractFormComponent.
Build the html in the method renderFormComponent.
Receive the parameters in the method rewindFormComponent.
You should manage the required javascript with the tapestry script
mechanism in the same class.
Does that help?
Bode, Bianca
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This is where definitions of "currently" come in to play :-)
The 3.x series also references it in the inspector.
Andreas Andreou wrote:
> For those wondering, it's currently used by contrib:Palette
>
> Sergei Dubov wrote:
>> Politely tell your legal
See
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/tapestry/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry/IRequestCycle.html
getParameter and getParameters will do the trick
Bode, Bianca wrote:
Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone has ever did something like I've described
below, and if so how???:
I need to make a page wi
It should be inside, as it wont be edited too many times. I was thinking
about putting it inside the WEB-INF folder.
On 5/16/06, Hugo Palma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Do you want the properties file to be inside the war or outside ?
On 5/16/06, Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I dont
Do you want the properties file to be inside the war or outside ?
On 5/16/06, Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I dont doubt HiveMind would be the right way to go, but the learning curve
seems to be a bit too steep for my timeframe.
Can I insist on an example using ServletContextListener,
For those wondering, it's currently used by contrib:Palette
Sergei Dubov wrote:
Politely tell your legal department to do their job and to review
Mozilla Public License (the former NPL), and confirm that it is
actually even more liberal than Apache 2. :-)
-Serge
Renat Zubairov wrote:
Hello
Politely tell your legal department to do their job and to review
Mozilla Public License (the former NPL), and confirm that it is actually
even more liberal than Apache 2. :-)
-Serge
Renat Zubairov wrote:
Hello All,
Our legal department was checking tapestry and dependencies, and it
seems to
Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone has ever did something like I've described
below, and if so how???:
I need to make a page with 1 textfield, and when some enters a number in
this Textfield I generate (with javascript) that number of extra
Textfields.
Tapestry is unaware of these extra fields,
I dont doubt HiveMind would be the right way to go, but the learning curve
seems to be a bit too steep for my timeframe.
Can I insist on an example using ServletContextListener, ie, something that
being all in Java would be more in my reach?
On the other hand, if someone has configured a connecti
You are, I just didnt know I could do it that way. I'm going to look at
HiveMind's documentation for examples.
On 5/16/06, Hugo Palma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In that case, why don't you configure Proxool as a service in you
hivemodule.xml file ? That's where your service configuration should
In that case, why don't you configure Proxool as a service in you
hivemodule.xml file ? That's where your service configuration should take
place.
My ServletContextListener suggestion usually works well when you have a
properties bundle that you want to place outside the war so that it can be
eas
I have written an integration between tapestry and fvalidate - amazingly
called tapestryfvalidate. You can download the jar file at:
https://tapestryfvalidate.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentList
It's not documented though...
There is documentation on fvalidate at:
http://www.phil-taylor.co
Ok...
The properties file holds configuration data for Proxool, the connection
pool I'm using with my application.
On 5/16/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
First of all, what does that properties file contain? You know, HiveMind
is
a configuration microkernel, so you can do a lot of
First of all, what does that properties file contain? You know, HiveMind is
a configuration microkernel, so you can do a lot of configuration with
HiveMind.
-Original Message-
From: Rui Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:02 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re:
Could you or someone else give me an example on how to do that?
On 5/16/06, Hugo Palma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would implement such a feature using a ServletContextListener. Something
like the HiveUtils SystemPropertyInitListener class.
Cheers
Hugo
On 5/16/06, Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTEC
Waimun,
You might have been unsubscribed due to bounces maybe?
The old address is still good, for now, but you must resubscribe to
the new one..
Everybody else... The web page still shows the subscribe url for the
old jakarta list.
What is the new subscribe address?
Geoff
On 5/15/06, Waimun
Hello All,
Our legal department was checking tapestry and dependencies, and it
seems to be that file:
tapestry-4.0-rc-3/framework/src/java/org/apache/tapestry/html/PracticalBrowserSniffer.js
Is not under apache licnese. If I'll remove this file from tapestry
JAR file will everything else work?
I would implement such a feature using a ServletContextListener. Something
like the HiveUtils SystemPropertyInitListener class.
Cheers
Hugo
On 5/16/06, Rui Pacheco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all
I was planning on storing a properties file inside my WEB-INF directory
and
then read it using
For instance, the page can
easily provide it's own validation that is not easily doable with normal
validators (eg making sure 2 password fields are equal).
It looks like something many tapestry developpers could use... Is there a
possibility of seeing the code/putting in the wiki ?
Thanks in a
Hi all
I was planning on storing a properties file inside my WEB-INF directory and
then read it using getResourceAsStream from ServletContext, but apparently I
can't access the ServletContext from inside Tapestry.
Is there another way to read the properties file or how to get to my
ServletContext
.. With bill gates dressed as a minotaur peeking out from a brick wall in
the background :) Sorry, I like the idea, the image just popped up.
Cheers,
PS
On 5/16/06, Andreas Bulling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 16. Mai 2006 - 11:03:11, Schulte Marcus wrote:
| ha, now I feel compelled to throw
On 16. Mai 2006 - 11:03:11, Schulte Marcus wrote:
| ha, now I feel compelled to throw in my wisdom ;)
|
| I'd try to make something which contains the Apache-feather.
| Lots of other apache projects do it. And the Apache-Connection
| IS important for Tapestry. I know I would have had a much
| ha
ha, now I feel compelled to throw in my wisdom ;)
I'd try to make something which contains the Apache-feather.
Lots of other apache projects do it. And the Apache-Connection
IS important for Tapestry. I know I would have had a much
harder time selling tapestry in my corp if it wasn't under
the a
> The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
> elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie
> itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon
> to the same
> effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic
> tapestries; either
> w
On 5/16/06, Dwi Ardi Irawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
how about if we make a logo competition for tapestry ?
and poll all developers
How about we all give it a rest and let Howard give his point? After
all, without him there wouldn't be a framework at all.
--
regards,
Robin
---
That's not fair! That guy who knows how to paint will win easily! :)
Cheers,
PS
On 5/16/06, Dwi Ardi Irawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
how about if we make a logo competition for tapestry ?
and poll all developers
Stephane Decleire wrote:
> For me Tapestry is the most advanced framework to
how about if we make a logo competition for tapestry ?
and poll all developers
Stephane Decleire wrote:
For me Tapestry is the most advanced framework to build websites so
why associate to it an oldish picture ?
Moreover, i'm not so sure a logo should be so complex as a decorated
letter or
For me Tapestry is the most advanced framework to build websites so why
associate to it an oldish picture ?
Moreover, i'm not so sure a logo should be so complex as a decorated
letter or mythological animal. A logo needs to be printed on papers or
webpages with low resolution. BTW, Tapestry
Peter is referring to the "decorated T" idea in my other post.
E.g. The Book of Kells has a pretty stylish 'T': (Ok, not a tapestry though)
http://www.snake.net/people/paul/kells/image/kell2bmp
As usual, multiple Nicks cause confusion! ;-)
Anyway, the ideas should come forth now, as there is alre
Yeh, that's cool.
I didn't mean to jump the gun by offering ideas. Apologies if I've
created confusion on the list. I was simply providing ideas because
someone said that criticism without alternative suggestions wasn't
constructive.
Nick
Peter Svensson wrote:
I like the "decorated T" ide
I like the "decorated T" idea, like the large beginning letter in old (or
faux-old) fairy tale books, but with small database cylinders and keyboards
instead of leaves and TP-5 instead of vines :) Hmm, wish I knew how to draw
that..
Cheers,
PS
On 5/16/06, Aleksej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ni
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