Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Joseph Acquisto
A message slipped through untouced. Obvious spam from "Minister of Finance" with many attachments. /var/log/mail shows a message skipped "spamc[7262]: skipped message, greater than max message size (512000 bytes)" at the time this came thru. I'd guess that was it. Unusual, but any way to prev

Re: FROM_MISSP_* causing FPs

2012-12-03 Thread Alexandre Boyer
Alex, from prypiat. Yes, I recycle. On 12-12-03 02:04 AM, John Wilcock wrote: > Le 30/11/2012 18:18, John Hardin a écrit : >>>header __AJB_HAS_XEROXX-Mailer =~ /WorkCentre \d{3,5}/ >>>header __AJB_XEROX_SUBJ Subject =~ /Scan from a Xerox/ >> >> Thanks! I will add those to m

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Alexandre Boyer
Hi, I guess you may change your threshold for the cut off? the -s flag, when calling spamc seems to be it. I use amavisd-new to feed SA, it does the same thing, I had to change my threshold too to analyze bigger emails. Best, Alex, from prypiat. Yes, I recycle. On 12-12-03 06:25 AM, Joseph Ac

Re: FROM_MISSP_* causing FPs

2012-12-03 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012, John Wilcock wrote: Le 30/11/2012 18:18, John Hardin a écrit : > header __AJB_HAS_XEROXX-Mailer =~ /WorkCentre \d{3,5}/ > header __AJB_XEROX_SUBJ Subject =~ /Scan from a Xerox/ Thanks! I will add those to my sandbox. Question: how often do you see t

Re: Greylisting (was Re: "Fairly-Secure" Anti-SPAM Gateway Using OpenBSD, Postfix, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Razor and DCC ? Can I get your opinion?)

2012-12-03 Thread Gary Funck
On 11/29/12 14:46:25, David F. Skoll wrote: > We greylist after the end of DATA. This wastes bandwidth, but lets us > use the Subject: line as an additional mix in the greylisting tuple. > This catches ratware that retries in the face of greylisting, but > mutates the subject line with each retry.

Re: "Fairly-Secure" Anti-SPAM Gateway Using OpenBSD, Postfix, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Razor and DCC ? Can I get your opinion?

2012-12-03 Thread Gary Funck
On 11/29/12 10:44:54, John Hardin wrote: > You will probably want to put a little effort into maintaining lists > of regular correspondents who can bypass greylisting. There may be > tools to automate that, e.g. to whitelist someone a local user has > sent mail to. Has anyone looked into the use o

Re: Debugging bayes w/ '--virtual-config-dir'

2012-12-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/2012 04:17 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > Running SA 3.3.2 on Ubunto 12.04. > > Here is how spamd is running: > > $ pgrep -lf spamd 26110 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd > --create-prefs --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir --username=vmail > --

Re: Greylisting (was Re: "Fairly-Secure" Anti-SPAM Gateway Using OpenBSD, Postfix, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Razor and DCC ? Can I get your opinion?)

2012-12-03 Thread Matt
>> We greylist after the end of DATA. This wastes bandwidth, but lets us >> use the Subject: line as an additional mix in the greylisting tuple. >> This catches ratware that retries in the face of greylisting, but >> mutates the subject line with each retry. > We use grey listing on our low volum

Re: "Fairly-Secure" Anti-SPAM Gateway Using OpenBSD, Postfix, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Razor and DCC ? Can I get your opinion?

2012-12-03 Thread Matt
>> You will probably want to put a little effort into maintaining lists >> of regular correspondents who can bypass greylisting. There may be >> tools to automate that, e.g. to whitelist someone a local user has >> sent mail to. > > Has anyone looked into the use of a DNS-based white listing servic

Re: Greylisting (was Re: "Fairly-Secure" Anti-SPAM Gateway Using OpenBSD, Postfix, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Razor and DCC ? Can I get your opinion?)

2012-12-03 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 07:23 -0800, Gary Funck wrote: > Since this is a Spam Assassin list: Is there a way of disabling > grey listing, but still receiving some benefit from the principle > that mail received from a first time or infrequent sender should > be looked upon with some suspicion? > Yes.

Re: "Fairly-Secure" Anti-SPAM Gateway Using OpenBSD, Postfix, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Razor and DCC ? Can I get your opinion?

2012-12-03 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 07:27 -0800, Gary Funck wrote: > On 11/29/12 10:44:54, John Hardin wrote: > > You will probably want to put a little effort into maintaining lists > > of regular correspondents who can bypass greylisting. There may be > > tools to automate that, e.g. to whitelist someone a loc

Re: Debugging bayes w/ '--virtual-config-dir'

2012-12-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 12/3/2012 10:27 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/2012 04:17 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: Running SA 3.3.2 on Ubunto 12.04. Here is how spamd is running: $ pgrep -lf spamd 26110 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs --max-children 5 --help

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/3/2012 8:13 AM, Alexandre Boyer wrote: Hi, I guess you may change your threshold for the cut off? the -s flag, when calling spamc seems to be it. I use amavisd-new to feed SA, it does the same thing, I had to change my threshold too to analyze bigger emails. I'm currently testing some t

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > I've added two tricks to this filter. > > One, I pass the load_avg to the filter and use it to modify the size > limit for spamc based on load. The lower the load, the higher the > multiplier. Seems kind of pointless. Have yo

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/3/2012 3:03 PM, Henrik K wrote: Two, I'm trying a system that also truncates messages mid-message at the threshold to scan them anyway. The second idea has been pretty controversial but I think the first one is a neat idea. Why is it controversial? Amavisd-new 2.6.3 had this feature sinc

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:03:25 +0200 Henrik K wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: [Test loadavg in filtering decisions] > Seems kind of pointless. Have you actually measured how larger > messages affect cpu usage? Especially since usually there are much > le

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 12/3/2012 3:43 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: I agree. LoadAVG is a pretty useless measurement. And relaxing your filtering based on load gives spammers a clear signal how to defeat your filter. ... We truncate overly-long messages too, but we try to be intelligent about it. We shrink non-text

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:51:45 -0500 "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: > My goal is to implement something in spamc/spamd that's useful for > people using SA more out of the box. I guess, my thought is that > adding some logic to dynamically increase the size limit was better > than the status quo. OK.

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 12/3/2012 3:43 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:03:25 +0200 Henrik K wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: [Test loadavg in filtering decisions] Seems kind of pointless. Have you actually measured how larger messages affect cpu usage? Es

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:04:42 -0500 Bowie Bailey wrote: > You are not relaxing the filtering, you are tightening it. It still IMO is a bad idea. Effectively, you are lowering your security when your box is busier no matter how you look at it. If your box can't handle load spikes, then when it g

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 12/3/2012 4:12 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:04:42 -0500 Bowie Bailey wrote: You are not relaxing the filtering, you are tightening it. It still IMO is a bad idea. Effectively, you are lowering your security when your box is busier no matter how you look at it. If your

Re: Message not scanned- Size?

2012-12-03 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:20:30 -0500 Bowie Bailey wrote: > Without this setup, you are always at the "lower security" level. Ah, so you believe the glass is half-full whereas I maintain it's half-empty. :) > Of course, everyone would like to have a box that can handle fully > scanning every email

Re: Greylisting (was Re: "Fairly-Secure" Anti-SPAM Gateway Using OpenBSD, Postfix, Amavisd-new, SpamAssassin, Razor and DCC ? Can I get your opinion?)

2012-12-03 Thread RW
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:23:59 -0800 Gary Funck wrote: > Since this is a Spam Assassin list: Is there a way of disabling > grey listing, but still receiving some benefit from the principle > that mail received from a first time or infrequent sender should > be looked upon with some suspicion? Person