On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Faisal N Jawdat wrote:
On Apr 18, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
Thanks, we are rebuilding bayes and now have in SQL with auto learn on, is
that good? Now has over 25K spam, but just 180 ham.
You *really* want to train with more ham than spam.
I have a hard
Does this really mean that auto-learn is "out of balance"? My first
guess is that this site probably relies only on SA to combat spam and
does little at the MTA level to reject UBE mail. They may even run a
catch-all account which would markedly increase his spam count if he is
not rejecting for
I've seen some others on the list here show reports of the different
rules and how much they hit. How can I produce these reports? And is it
possible to produce a report like this by domain name?
--
Robert
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Craig Carriere wrote:
Does this really mean that auto-learn is "out of balance"? My first
guess is that this site probably relies only on SA to combat spam and
does little at the MTA level to reject UBE mail. They may even run a
catch-all account which would markedly incre
Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
> I've seen some others on the list here show reports of the different
> rules and how much they hit.
Most of them are quoting the ones out of the official ruleset mass-check
results. Those are in the tarball under the rules directory as
STATISTICS*.txt
> How can I produc
Matt Kettler wrote:
> If you try to build it off a live feed and use SA's marking as the spam
> criteria, your statistics are useless. Any rule with a high enough score
> would get "perfect" results.. all the mail it matched would be spam, and
> no nonspam. You have, essentially, created a "self fu
* Matt Kettler wrote (19/04/07 14:49):
Matt Kettler wrote:
If you try to build it off a live feed and use SA's marking as the spam
criteria, your statistics are useless. Any rule with a high enough score
would get "perfect" results.. all the mail it matched would be spam, and
no nonspam. You hav
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:03 +0100, Chris Lear wrote:
> * Matt Kettler wrote (19/04/07 14:49):
> > If you want to know how accurate a particular rule is, by comparing the
> > spam vs nonspam hit rates, those stats are useless, because of the bias.
> > You need a manually sorted corpus to get this k
I utilize amavisd-maia (Maia Mailguard) which provides updated rules
stats. The program also provides an easy method to constantly train
your bayes filters. You might want to take a look at it.
Best
Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:03 +0100, Chris Lear wrote:
Matt Kettler wrote:
>
> If you want a "top x rules" list, sa-stats can do that for you:
>
> http://www.rulesemporium.com/programs/sa-stats.txt
>
> It will parse a spamd logfile and report the most-frequently used spam
> and nonspam rules (and you can configure how many it will list for
> each)
Hello List,
I'd like to start off with a little background information to help you
understand my question.
I currently use Sylpheed-Claws as my email client under Linux.
I have it configured so that I can select any message and press a hot key (F5,
this was assigned by myself via GTK), which w
>>Re: SpamAssassin Client for Outlook
SpamAssassin Client for OutlookSpamAssassin Client for
Outlookhttp://sawin32.sourceforge.net/
Here you'll find a POP3 proxy that is basically a Win32 edition of SA. It runs
on your computer, between your mail server and outlook. And, as I said, it is
fully
jpff wrote:
I tried switching bayes off and it has run for 4 hrs before the
failing starts again
Apr 18 08:16:37 snout spamd[29102]: spamd: copy_config timeout, respawning child process after 1 messages at /usr/bin/spamd line 968.
Apr 18 08:16:46 snout spamd[29096]: spamd: copy_config timeout,
Hey Rob / List,
> Here you'll find a POP3 proxy that is basically a Win32 edition of SA.
> It runs on your computer, between your mail server and outlook.
> And, as I said, it is fully win32 "native", no unix emulation.
>
> Might not be exactly what you wanted, but very, very close.
That looks p
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SpamCop
SA 3.1.8 + Sendmail + spamassmilter
I added to init.pre with no lint errors
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SpamCop
spamcop_to_address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spamcop_max_report_size 300
I just don't know what it is that I should expect to
"Steven W. Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I just don't know what it is that I should expect to see. Should I see
> messages automatically going to spamcop.net? (I don't)
No. But when you run 'spamassassin -r' to report spam, it will send the
report to spamcop.
Guys,
When I ran this command
# sudo -u vpopmail -H spamassassin -D --lint
and I check the output I saw below error
[27427] dbg: bayes: tie-ing to DB file R/O
/home/vpopmail/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
[27427] warn: bayes: cannot open bayes databases
/home/vpopmail/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie f
On Thursday, Apr 19th 2007 at 19:21 +0100, quoth Graham Murray:
=>"Steven W. Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
=>
=>> I just don't know what it is that I should expect to see. Should I see
=>> messages automatically going to spamcop.net? (I don't)
=>
=>No. But when you run 'spamassassin -r' to repo
Steven W. Orr wrote:
> What I've currently been using is this script:
>
> #! /bin/bash
> exec tee >(mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) | sa-learn --spam
>
> Is there an advantage to using -r over what I have? (something like)
> exec tee >(spamassassin -r) | sa-learn
>
-r will also perform the sa-learn po
Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On Tue, April 17, 2007 01:57, Duane Hill wrote:
>
>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath
>>
>
> to me a bit hardcore to read, but it have all ip that is known forwards mails
> to me as trusted_networks even if its still not my servers, and have maked the
Hi.
This isn't so much a technical question as a philosophical one.
We're tired of dealing with Yahoo! which seems to either
(a) have the poorest trained "abuse" staff of any large email
service provider on the planet, or (b) they have a malicious
corporate culture of flat-out denying any email or
Us too. I'm sick of yahoo with their free email service allowing spam
through.
Today yahoo's network is #1 in spam:
http://www.senderbase.org/
If a wide group starts blacklisting them maybe they would get their act
together and fix the problem.
-L
--
Larry Ludwig
Empowering Media
1-866-792-0
Larry Ludwig wrote:
Us too. I'm sick of yahoo with their free email service allowing spam
through.
Today yahoo's network is #1 in spam:
http://www.senderbase.org/
If a wide group starts blacklisting them maybe they would get their act
together and fix the problem.
-L
The question is how mu
I just sent myself a Yahoo email, and it relayed thru: 68.142.236.156.
dig -x sez: web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com.
Larry's spam was via 68.142.200.253.
dig -x sez: smtp105.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com.
I wonder if there's any way to find out all the various names each system
uses. Then we could downgrade
On Thu, April 19, 2007 21:20, Philip Prindeville wrote:
> Given the number of ISP's that don't have rDNS configured,
i reject them, atleast spf can help them
> whitelist_from_rcvd should probably be extended to support
> IP/CIDR addresses as well...
why not spf ?
> Let's not overload the mean
On Thursday 19 April 2007, Philip Prindeville wrote:
>Hi.
>
>This isn't so much a technical question as a philosophical one.
>We're tired of dealing with Yahoo! which seems to either
>(a) have the poorest trained "abuse" staff of any large email
>service provider on the planet, or (b) they have a m
On Thursday 19 April 2007, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>Larry Ludwig wrote:
>> Us too. I'm sick of yahoo with their free email service allowing spam
>> through.
>>
>> Today yahoo's network is #1 in spam:
>>
>> http://www.senderbase.org/
>>
>> If a wide group starts blacklisting them maybe they would ge
I asked this question related to BOTNET the other day, but I don't think
I was clear. We run a transport server that ultimately delivers mail to
off-server destinations. I was wondering is it is possible to bypass
rules based on a recipients domain name? For instance, not apply BOTNET
scores to mes
For what it's worth, what would be nice is if yahoo had some kind of
automated complaint mailbox so that if complaints about a particular
account were coming in at a high rate it would disable the account. Same
for Hotmail, Gmail, and other free mailers.
If automated complaint features were st
Aggh. I think Thunderbird 2 changed the menu layout a bit. I hit
"Reply to Sender" instead of "Reply to All."
Marc Perkel wrote:
For what it's worth, what would be nice is if yahoo had some kind of
automated complaint mailbox so that if complaints about a particular
account were coming in at
On Fri, April 20, 2007 01:25, Marc Perkel wrote:
> For what it's worth, what would be nice is if yahoo had some kind of
> automated complaint mailbox so that if complaints about a particular
> account were coming in at a high rate it would disable the account. Same
> for Hotmail, Gmail, and other
Kelson wrote:
Aggh. I think Thunderbird 2 changed the menu layout a bit. I hit
"Reply to Sender" instead of "Reply to All."
Marc Perkel wrote:
For what it's worth, what would be nice is if yahoo had some kind of
automated complaint mailbox so that if complaints about a particular
account
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