Re: SA TIMED OUT message debian sarge

2006-11-03 Thread Mark Martinec
On Friday November 3 2006 05:23, Matt Kettler wrote: > I believe the option is $sa_timeout > Not sure what the default is, probably 30. Which should be enough to > prevent that problem, unless you have a LOT of sa instances contending > for the AWL database. > Try adding a $sa_timeout = 60 to your

Re: R: BIG increase in spam today

2006-11-03 Thread Federico Giannici
François Rousseau wrote: Greylisting is not always good... The greylisting insert delay in delevery and sometimes the email have to be delever fast. I don't trust enough DNSBLs to completely block an email only based on them. What about combining BlackListing and GreyListing? I'd like to us

Enabling/testing SPF?

2006-11-03 Thread Henry Kwan
Am finally getting around to making SPF records for our domains so naturally I was fiddling with SA to see SPF-checking was enabled. Running 3.17 with Mail-SPF-Query-1.999.1 installed. During "make test", it seemed to pass all 36 tests in "t/spf...ok". But when I do a debu

R: R: BIG increase in spam today

2006-11-03 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> François Rousseau wrote: > > Greylisting is not always good... > > > > The greylisting insert delay in delevery and sometimes the > email have to > > be delever fast. > > I don't trust enough DNSBLs to completely block an email only > based on them. > > What about combining BlackListing an

Does a rule already exist for this?

2006-11-03 Thread Joe Flowers
I assume a rule already exists for this but just in the remote chance it's not... If the text with a URL in a hyperlink does not match the href, then the message should get more spam points. For example, HREF="http://StringA";>http://StringB if(StringA != StringB) { Add more spam points. }

Re: Enabling/testing SPF?

2006-11-03 Thread Ramprasad
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 10:21 +, Henry Kwan wrote: > Am finally getting around to making SPF records for our domains so naturally > I was fiddling with SA to see SPF-checking was enabled. Running 3.17 with > Mail-SPF-Query-1.999.1 installed. During "make test", it seemed to pass all > 36 test

RE: how to show exact score for the tests in the headers

2006-11-03 Thread Leon Kolchinsky
Hi, I'm running SLES9. I've added add_header all Report _REPORT_ to local.cf file, but I'm still getting those headers without individual scores :( Like these: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=11.0 tag1=-999.0 tag2=5.0 kill=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FROM_ILLEGAL_CHARS, HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_M

Forged_Hotmail_Rcvd

2006-11-03 Thread Suhas \(QualiSpace\)
I am wondering why this mail failed in 2.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD Forged hotmail.com 'Received:' header found test?   Can anyone help me out in understanding why?     Received: from bay0-omc3-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.208] by qualispace.com with ESMTP   (SMTPD-8.22) id ADCC0278; Fri

RE: Forged_Hotmail_Rcvd

2006-11-03 Thread Michael Scheidell
Title: Message   -Original Message-From: Suhas (QualiSpace) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:00 AMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Forged_Hotmail_Rcvd I am wondering why this mail failed in 2.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD Forged ho

RE: Does a rule already exist for this?

2006-11-03 Thread Coffey, Neal
Joe Flowers wrote: > If the text with a URL in a hyperlink does not match the href, then > the message should get more spam points. This idea has been discussed before, and rejected. Too many false positives. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AntiPhishFakeUrlRule

Re: Spam

2006-11-03 Thread Markus Braun
http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#item_clear_report_template Thanks about the link. i will take a look at this the next days. But can i something more do, agains the spam problem? Marcus ___

BIZ_TLD and INFO_TLD

2006-11-03 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
Aren't them a bit outdated? I have a couple of FPs due to them scoring 2.whatever on an opt-in mailing list (at least, it seems so). I know I can lower their scores. I was just wondering why their default score is so high: maybe when .biz and .info TLDs started operating, they were mostly used

Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Tony Finch
Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this week, and it is now scoring more than 5: DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN 2.87, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 1.44, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64 1.05. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dotat.at/ IRISH SEA: VARIABLE 3 OR LESS, BECOMING WESTERLY 4 OR 5 LATER.

Re: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Tony Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this week, and it > is now scoring more than 5: DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN 2.87, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 1.44, > FROM_EXCESS_BASE64 1.05. Amazon.co.uk is not listed: http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=Ama

Block "wrote:" spams

2006-11-03 Thread MIKE YRABEDRA
I am getting a lot of these "Bob wrote: " spams Anyone know a way to write the rule so if the subject has "wrote:" in the subject, tag it? Here is what I have? header WROTE_SUB Subject =~ /\bwrote\:\b/i describe WROTE_SUB Wrote in Subject score WROTE_SUB 3.0 -- Mike Yrabed

Re: Block "wrote:" spams

2006-11-03 Thread Juan Mas
Ive been getting the same and just wrote a rule for it today.  Ive got what you have listed below.  Havent tested it though.On 11/3/06, MIKE YRABEDRA < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I am getting a lot of these "Bob wrote: " spams Anyone know a way to write the rule so if the subject has "wrote:" in thes

handy new rule-dev tip: --cf

2006-11-03 Thread Justin Mason
Here's a nifty feature I added recently to SVN trunk that's quite useful if you're a rule developer. Basically, it allows you to set a line or two of configuration, on the command line: spamassassin --cf="config" --cf='config line' Add additional lines of configuration directly fro

Re: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > * Tony Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this week, and it > > is now scoring more than 5: DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN 2.87, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 1.44, > > FROM_EXCESS_BASE64 1.05. > > Amazon.co.uk is not listed:

RE: sa-learn training question(s)

2006-11-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
Matt Kettler wrote: > Jason Wellman wrote: > > > > ... > > I have all incoming mail that is tagged as Spam > > delivered to a "CaughtSpam" IMAP box for each user. > > ... > > > > Should I also have sa-learn from the "CaughtSpam" folder? I have > > read some places that say yes, and some that say

Re: R: BIG increase in spam today

2006-11-03 Thread Ken A
Federico Giannici wrote: François Rousseau wrote: Greylisting is not always good... The greylisting insert delay in delevery and sometimes the email have to be delever fast. I don't trust enough DNSBLs to completely block an email only based on them. What about combining BlackListing a

Re: Relay Checker plugin v0.2

2006-11-03 Thread Stuart Johnston
John Rudd wrote: I've put up a new version of Relay checker, in ... I expect I might, at some point, switch from using a dynamic score in the plugin, to a normal score. But that's the only change I expect to make, aside from bug fixes (if there are any), and/or a switch to using Net::DNS.

RE: BIG increase in spam today

2006-11-03 Thread Bret Miller
> Am Donnerstag, 2. November 2006 16:04 schrieb Amos: > (...) > > Actually, it's getting to the extent that some at work are raising > > questions as to whether our SA setup will be able to > maintain adequate > > protection from this growing onslaught. > > > > Amos > > Only AFTER adequate initial

Re: BIZ_TLD and INFO_TLD

2006-11-03 Thread Loren Wilton
Still seem to be mostly spammers here. There is a slight increase in ham, but I don't think it would really change the scores all that much. I have both of these domains scored at 5 with no problems. Loren

Re: Block "wrote:" spams

2006-11-03 Thread Loren Wilton
I haven't seen any of these.  But if the spams universally have " wrote: " as the subject then I'd consider a more stringent rule:       /^\w+\s+wrote:/i   or     /^(?:\w+\s+){1,2}wrote:/i   or     /^(?:re:\s*|fw:\s*){0,20}(?:\w+\s+){1,2}wrote:/i           Loren   - Original Message ---

Re: BIZ_TLD and INFO_TLD

2006-11-03 Thread Péntek Imre
at 2006. november 3. 18.20 Loren Wilton wrote: > Still seem to be mostly spammers here. There is a slight increase in ham, > but I don't think it would really change the scores all that much. I have > both of these domains scored at 5 with no problems. Why don't you use simplex algorithm (or simi

Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Péntek Imre
Hello, Why BAYES_99 have only the score 3.5 while 5.0 is required to identify a mail as spam? I think this rule should have a score about 5.1 (or anything greater than 5.0). -- With regards: Imre Péntek E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Maul
Péntek Imre wrote: Hello, Why BAYES_99 have only the score 3.5 while 5.0 is required to identify a mail as spam? I think this rule should have a score about 5.1 (or anything greater than 5.0). because if its wrong in its classification, then that 1 rule alone will cause a FP. The whole ide

Re: Block "wrote:" spams

2006-11-03 Thread Justin Mason
there's a rule that matches them in 3.1.x sa-update, fwiw. --j. Loren Wilton writes: > I haven't seen any of these. But if the spams universally have " word> wrote: " as the subject then I'd consider a more stringent rule: > > /^\w+\s+wrote:/i > > or > /^(?:\w+\s+){1,2}wrote:/i > > o

blocking mail gateways

2006-11-03 Thread dragin33
I have started to recieve a flood of spam that is getting through spam assassin on my server. I have my score set to 4 which I don't think is too high but this spam is coming through sometimes with scores of .5 or 1. I want to be able to block the email gateways these things are being sent from.

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Péntek Imre
Jim Maul wrote: > I've upped the scores on almost all bayes rules here because history has > shown it to be incredibly accurate here. Yes. BTW so far I've got no FP but still get false negatives with score 3.5, BAYES_99, using this database: [5816] dbg: bayes: corpus size: nspam = 2757, nham = 140

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Maul
Péntek Imre wrote: Jim Maul wrote: I've upped the scores on almost all bayes rules here because history has shown it to be incredibly accurate here. Yes. BTW so far I've got no FP but still get false negatives with score 3.5, BAYES_99, using this database: [5816] dbg: bayes: corpus size: nspam

Re: Enabling/testing SPF?

2006-11-03 Thread Henry Kwan
Ramprasad netcore.co.in> writes: > > spamassassin -D < file 2>&1 | grep -i spf > > check the output > > which MTA do you use ? Your MTA must insert an X-Envelope-From: header > ( or similar ) > > Thanks > Ram > > Hi. I'm using sendmail so I see that I have to modify sendmail.cf by addin

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Péntek Imre
Jim Maul wrote: > Are you using network tests, razor, surbl, add on rules from sare, etc? I can just guess, as I don't know how to get to be sure. I can find several spams marked with: RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET UNPARSEABLE_RELAY URIBL_AB_SURB Are these mean I also use network tests? As I see I don't u

R: BIZ_TLD and INFO_TLD

2006-11-03 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> at 2006. november 3. 18.20 Loren Wilton wrote: > > Still seem to be mostly spammers here. There is a slight > increase in ham, > > but I don't think it would really change the scores all that > much. I have > > both of these domains scored at 5 with no problems. > Why don't you use simplex al

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Maul
Péntek Imre wrote: Jim Maul wrote: Are you using network tests, razor, surbl, add on rules from sare, etc? I can just guess, as I don't know how to get to be sure. I can find several spams marked with: RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET UNPARSEABLE_RELAY URIBL_AB_SURB Are these mean I also use network test

Re: R: BIG increase in spam today

2006-11-03 Thread Stuart Johnston
Federico Giannici wrote: François Rousseau wrote: Greylisting is not always good... The greylisting insert delay in delevery and sometimes the email have to be delever fast. I don't trust enough DNSBLs to completely block an email only based on them. What about combining BlackListing and

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Péntek Imre
Jim Maul wrote: > I am not sure. It would seem so to me. Make sure you do not have -L > being passed when starting spamd. I've started reading that wikipage, so now I can test for sure: $ spamassassin -t -D < spam > output 2>&1 $ grep network output [6639] dbg: pyzor: network tests on, attempting

Re: sa-learn training question(s)

2006-11-03 Thread Jason Wellman
Thanks for the feedback.  One last question that I am currently tossing around.  Sitewide vs individual learning... I have a small domain, less then 50 users.  Should I be looking at setting up a sitewide bayes database instead of individual ones?  Again I find conflicting information when I dig in

Re: Enabling/testing SPF?

2006-11-03 Thread Henry Kwan
Ramprasad netcore.co.in> writes: > > spamassassin -D < file 2>&1 | grep -i spf > > check the output > > which MTA do you use ? Your MTA must insert an X-Envelope-From: header > ( or similar ) > > Thanks > Ram > Hi, After some more banging my head against the wall, I discovered that SPF ch

How to disable IADB

2006-11-03 Thread Henk van Lingen
Hi, One of my users gets lots of similar UCE, and learning doesn't help a bit. Investigating the report headers, it seems the mails trigger 'IADB' rules, which seems to be a RBL whitelist. ( 70_iadb.cf & 20_dnsbl_tests.cf) Is there a way to disable this 'feature', without editting those files?

Re: How to disable IADB

2006-11-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:02:46PM +0100, Henk van Lingen wrote: > Is there a way to disable this 'feature', without editting those files? Set the rule scores to 0. -- Randomly Selected Tagline: "She's gonna say my name!" --Ralph Wiggum Lisa Gets an "A" (Episode AABF03) pgp

Re: SA TIMED OUT message debian sarge

2006-11-03 Thread Simon
On 11/3/06, Mark Martinec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday November 3 2006 05:23, Matt Kettler wrote: > I believe the option is $sa_timeout > Not sure what the default is, probably 30. Which should be enough to > prevent that problem, unless you have a LOT of sa instances contending > for the

Re: Relay Checker plugin v0.2

2006-11-03 Thread John Rudd
Stuart Johnston wrote: John Rudd wrote: I've put up a new version of Relay checker, in ... I expect I might, at some point, switch from using a dynamic score in the plugin, to a normal score. But that's the only change I expect to make, aside from bug fixes (if there are any), and/or a swit

Re: How to disable IADB

2006-11-03 Thread Henk van Lingen
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:06:10PM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:02:46PM +0100, Henk van Lingen wrote: > > Is there a way to disable this 'feature', without editting those files? > > Set the rule scores to 0. Oke, of course. There are however 28 such rules a

RE: sa-learn training question(s)

2006-11-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jason Wellman wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. One last question that I am currently > tossing around. Sitewide vs individual learning... I have a small > domain, less then 50 users. Should I be looking at setting up a > sitewide bayes database instead of individual ones? Again I find > confli

Re: Spam

2006-11-03 Thread Markus Braun
>>you will get a format that's more suitable to put in the headers. >What do you mean, whaat this two options do, i found nothing on the >spamassassin site. At the moment i use bayes and the emails are marked like this in the header: But some emails come through the spamassasin filter like th

Ham Learning

2006-11-03 Thread Markus Braun
Hello, when i learn with sa-learn some emails as ham i get this error message: Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 182. Can somebody explain me what this mean? bye marcus

Re: How to disable IADB

2006-11-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:38:27PM +0100, Henk van Lingen wrote: > Oke, of course. There are however 28 such rules at the moment. Technically the only one that matters is __RCVD_IN_IADB: score __RCVD_IN_IADB 0 The rest look at the results generated by that rule, so if that rule doesn't run ...

Re: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Godette
Seems pretty accurate to me since I have accounts that have been returning "550: User Unknown" smtp rejects for 2+ years that still receive mail from Amazon on a weekly/monthly basis. Same thing for several airline mileage programs, big name stock brokerages, etc. On Friday 03 November 2006 08:

Re: How to disable IADB

2006-11-03 Thread Stuart Johnston
Henk van Lingen wrote: On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:06:10PM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:02:46PM +0100, Henk van Lingen wrote: > > Is there a way to disable this 'feature', without editting those files? > > Set the rule scores to 0. Oke, of course. There a

SA TIMED OUT message debian sarge (new error)

2006-11-03 Thread Simon
Hi There, Looks like ive solved one issue, and another crops up!... I think that i may need to move to a mysql storage engine here? approx 17,000 messages a day incoming on this server. Any pointers here? - Thanks!! Nov 4 11:39:40 mx1 amavis[32148]: (32148-07) SA TIMED OUT, backtrace: at /usr/

RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: Tony Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Tony Finch > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:59 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Amazon / RFCI false positives > > Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this > week, an

RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Scheidell > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:32 PM > To: Tony Finch; users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony >

Re: Relay Checker plugin v0.2

2006-11-03 Thread Stuart Johnston
John Rudd wrote: Stuart Johnston wrote: John Rudd wrote: I've put up a new version of Relay checker, in ... I expect I might, at some point, switch from using a dynamic score in the plugin, to a normal score. But that's the only change I expect to make, aside from bug fixes (if there are a

RE: SA TIMED OUT message debian sarge (new error)

2006-11-03 Thread Gary V
Hi There, Looks like ive solved one issue, and another crops up!... I think that i may need to move to a mysql storage engine here? approx 17,000 messages a day incoming on this server. Any pointers here? - Thanks!! Nov 4 11:39:40 mx1 amavis[32148]: (32148-07) SA TIMED OUT, backtrace: at /usr/

Re: SA TIMED OUT message debian sarge (new error)

2006-11-03 Thread Mark Martinec
Simon, > Looks like ive solved one issue, and another crops up!... I think that > i may need to move to a mysql storage engine here? approx 17,000 > messages a day incoming on this server. > Any pointers here? - Thanks!! > > Nov 4 11:39:40 mx1 amavis[32148]: (32148-07) SA TIMED OUT, backtrace: >

RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > Not a false positive if their servers are broken. True from the RFCI point of view, but NOT true from the SpamAssassin point of view. These messages are wanted by their recipients so should not be scored as spam by SpamAssassin. Tony. -- f.a.n.fin

Re: sa-learn training question(s)

2006-11-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Bowie Bailey wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Jason Wellman wrote: >> >>> ... >>> I have all incoming mail that is tagged as Spam >>> delivered to a "CaughtSpam" IMAP box for each user. >>> ... >>> >>> Should I also have sa-learn from the "CaughtSpam" folder? I have >>> read some places t

Re: Ham Learning

2006-11-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Markus Braun wrote: > Hello, > > when i learn with sa-learn some emails as ham i get this error message: > > Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities at > /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 182. > > > Can somebody explain me what this mean? It's normal.. bu

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Péntek Imre wrote: > Hello, > > Why BAYES_99 have only the score 3.5 while 5.0 is required to identify a mail > as spam? I think this rule should have a score about 5.1 (or anything greater > than 5.0). > Because it's baye_99 not bayes_100. ie: it's not 100% accurate.

Re: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread jdow
From: "Tony Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote: Not a false positive if their servers are broken. True from the RFCI point of view, but NOT true from the SpamAssassin point of view. These messages are wanted by their recipients so should not be scored as s

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread jdow
Modify the score if you think that is appropriate. (I do. I score it at 5.1. The .1 is so I can be obnoxious in arguments about this, like the argument which may start with your message.) If you Bayes is VERY well trained with VERY few hams that come in BAYES_99, like 1 in 1000 or less, t

Re: Bayesian scores

2006-11-03 Thread jdow
From: "Jim Maul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Péntek Imre wrote: Jim Maul wrote: I've upped the scores on almost all bayes rules here because history has shown it to be incredibly accurate here. Yes. BTW so far I've got no FP but still get false negatives with score 3.5, BAYES_99, using this database:

Re: Block "wrote:" spams

2006-11-03 Thread jdow
And I would restart spamd after installing the rule. {^_-} - Original Message - From: "Loren Wilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I haven't seen any of these. But if the spams universally have " wrote: " as the subject then I'd consider a more stringent rule: /^\w+\s+wrote:/i or /^(?

Re: BIZ_TLD and INFO_TLD

2006-11-03 Thread jdow
From: "Péntek Imre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Still seem to be mostly spammers here. There is a slight increase in ham, but I don't think it would really change the scores all that much. I have both of these domains scored at 5 with no problems. Why don't you use simplex algorithm (or similar) to co

Re: BIZ_TLD and INFO_TLD

2006-11-03 Thread jdow
From: "Giampaolo Tomassoni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at 2006. november 3. 18.20 Loren Wilton wrote: > Still seem to be mostly spammers here. There is a slight increase in ham, > but I don't think it would really change the scores all that much. I have > both of these domains scored at 5 with no

Re: Amazon / RFCI false positives

2006-11-03 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Tony Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My mistake: I cited the wrong domain. Try bounces.amazon.com which they > use in the return path of their messages (I guess for all their > international domains) > http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=bounces.amazon.com Yes, correct. My tests sh