Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-09 Thread Justin Mason
Alex Woick writes: > Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out > that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. > Here is such a backscatter mail: > > http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 : jm 5...; ./spamassassin -D -Lt < /home/jm/DL/m346c7979.txt

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, June 6, 2008 14:33, Alex Woick wrote: >>> whitelist_bounce_relays lxrouter.wombaz.localnet *.prima.de should be ok if its public dns Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> postfix add $myhostname here > For the time being, I solved the problem by removing > "lxrouter.wombaz.localnet" fro

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-06 Thread Alex Woick
Yes I did, and all the other backscatter is detected by vbounce fine: whitelist_bounce_relays lxrouter.wombaz.localnet *.prima.de But now I saw the Message-Id contained my local mail server name from whitelist_bounce_relays: Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The "lxrouter.wombaz.localnet" can o

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread SM
At 15:25 05-06-2008, David B Funk wrote: However RFC-2821, section 6.3 (Compensating for Irregularities) says that the originating SMTP server may add a message-id field when none appears. So if qmail is the first SMTP server to fondle the message it could/(should?) add a message-id. It's up to

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Friday 06 June 2008 00:11:37 mouss wrote: > postfix adds missing (mandatory) headers because it works as a > submission MTA, because this is how sendmail has always worked. This > behaviour is no more desirable for an MX (it is good for an MSA). Right now i get your point. I thought you where

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:34:42 mouss wrote: > > the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. > > RFC 2822 says: "every message SHOULD have a "Message-ID:" field." > i can't find the addition "except the origin is a pre stoneage qmail server" >

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, June 5, 2008 23:34, mouss wrote: stop incriminating qmail. the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. if postfix adds a missing message-id, then it's a postfix problem, not a qmail problem. if qmail, if postfix, maybe he have 2 mta ? :-) so what?

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:34:42 mouss wrote: the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. RFC 2822 says: "every message SHOULD have a "Message-ID:" field." i can't find the addition "except the origin is a pre stoneage qmail server" here. This has

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 5, 2008 23:34, mouss wrote: > stop incriminating qmail. the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. if > postfix adds a missing message-id, then it's a postfix problem, not a > qmail problem. if qmail, if postfix, maybe he have 2 mta ? :-) postfix add mta hostname to message-id if

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:34:42 mouss wrote: > the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. RFC 2822 says: "every message SHOULD have a "Message-ID:" field." i can't find the addition "except the origin is a pre stoneage qmail server" here. Well it says "SHOULD". So actually your system

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Alex Woick wrote: Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like "wasn't able to deliver your message" could be a

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Alex Woick
Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like "wasn't able to deliver your message" could be added to the detecti

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Alex Woick wrote: Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like "wasn't able to deliver your message" could be a

vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Alex Woick
Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like "wasn't able to deliver your message" could be added to the detecti