Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:33:47 AM, Leonard SA wrote: >> Hello, > >> I have had to remove spamcop from my rbl check list. they have had some >> legitimate mail servers listed recently. They had the gentoo mail list >> listed and some other important servers which i cant see why the

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Leonard SA
ber 23, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: spamcop.net tactics On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 5:39:05 AM, Leonard SA wrote: Jeff, I found this out yesterday after enabling the RBL lookups in the local.cf config file. Its great to get a high score slash because they are listed in the rbl list, bu

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Ed Kasky wrote: > I for one would be interested to know how you implement a filter like this. > It's one of the things that keeps me from using it sometimes... procmail does wonders, just don't call vacation for anything marked as spam. We use that plus some other checks: :

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Leonard SA
Jeff, Thanks again .. Regards .. Leonard - Original Message - From: "Jeff Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Leonard SA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: spamcop.net tactics On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 5:3

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:33:47 AM, Leonard SA wrote: > Hello, > I have had to remove spamcop from my rbl check list. they have had some > legitimate mail servers listed recently. They had the gentoo mail list > listed and some other important servers which i cant see why they were > a

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread Leonard SA
: "Christopher X. Candreva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:29 AM Subject: Re: spamcop.net tactics On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Chr. v. Stuckrad wrote: So simply by having users use 'vacation' or viruses/worms sending themselves from faked spam-trap-addr

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Chr. v. Stuckrad wrote: > So simply by having users use 'vacation' or viruses/worms > sending themselves from faked spam-trap-addresses and bouncing > at your site, you can be blacklisted for 24 hours (for each?). By having users use vacation without a filter to stop it from

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-22 Thread Chr. v. Stuckrad
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 09:24:28AM -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: > That doesn't mean it's a moral, an ethical or respectable reason: > "Spite" is reason enough for most people these days. > > Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie wrote: > > >if your IPs end up in there it's usually for a > >reason. Before

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-22 Thread Linda Walsh
That doesn't mean it's a moral, an ethical or respectable reason: "Spite" is reason enough for most people these days. Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie wrote: if your IPs end up in there it's usually for a reason. Michele

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-22 Thread Jeff Chan
On Monday, November 21, 2005, 8:39:13 PM, Amos Amos wrote: > On 11/21/05, Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> detect it, then yes your IPs can get blacklisted. The best way >> to solve that is to stop the emission of spam from your network. > It's easier to do when the source is identified.

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Amos
On 11/21/05, Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > detect it, then yes your IPs can get blacklisted. The best way > to solve that is to stop the emission of spam from your network. It's easier to do when the source is identified. > As was already suggested, one good way to do that is to block >

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Jeff Chan
SpamCop simply notes what addresses appear to be emitting spam. If your network is emitting spam and SpamCop users or traps detect it, then yes your IPs can get blacklisted. The best way to solve that is to stop the emission of spam from your network. As was already suggested, one good way to do

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Aaron Grewell
> Seems to me like setting up a firewall or network logger should make it pretty > easy to see what is sending out inordinate amounts of traffic on port 25. Or > you could just block port 25 outgoing as a matter of policy and force people > to go out through the university mail servers. No one

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Kelson
Amos wrote: Just recently we discovered we've been tagged by spamcop. Since the spamtrap is "secrete", there's no way to know what incident triggered this event, which makes it pretty damn difficult to track it down to try to deal with it. Furthermore, a site has only one chance to delist their s

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Chris Conn
Amos wrote: I must say I'm not particularly thrilled about the tactics employed by SpamCop. At a university it is sometimes difficult to control every single thing that everybody does on campus, unless of course perhaps if this was a complete authoritarian state. We try hard to control and mini

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Russell Miller
On Monday 21 November 2005 10:11, Amos wrote: > I must say I'm not particularly thrilled about the tactics employed by > SpamCop. At a university it is sometimes difficult to control every > single thing that everybody does on campus, unless of course perhaps > if this was a complete authoritarian

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie
Amos wrote: > I must say I'm not particularly thrilled about the tactics employed by > SpamCop. At a university it is sometimes difficult to control every > single thing that everybody does on campus, unless of course perhaps > if this was a complete authoritarian state. We try hard to control and

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Amos wrote: > I must say I'm not particularly thrilled about the tactics employed by > SpamCop. At a university it is sometimes difficult to control every > single thing that everybody does on campus, unless of course perhaps > if this was a complete authoritarian state. We try hard to control and

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread qqqq
November 21, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: spamcop.net tactics | I must say I'm not particularly thrilled about the tactics employed by | SpamCop. At a university it is sometimes difficult to control every | single thing that everybody does on campus, unless of course perhaps | if this was a complete auth

spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-21 Thread Amos
I must say I'm not particularly thrilled about the tactics employed by SpamCop. At a university it is sometimes difficult to control every single thing that everybody does on campus, unless of course perhaps if this was a complete authoritarian state. We try hard to control and minimize spamming ev