RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Evan Platt
At 01:22 PM 3/29/2009, you wrote: dude, shut up and mind your own business. (and i mean that in the most constructive manner) You come to a list asking for help, you make whatever you state your own business. But with your attitude you aren't going to get anymore help from me. you dont kno

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread mouss
Evan Platt a écrit : > At 08:19 AM 3/29/2009, you wrote: > >> Evan, >> >> naw, hourly is just fine. >> >> we update "sought ruleset" at the same time. >> >> i spose i could change it, yet spam is not a once a day thing. >> >> spam is all day every day, so hourly is the least i want to see things >

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 13:05 -0700, RobertH wrote: > > From: Karsten Bräckelmann > > The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever an update > > has been pushed. If everyone would check once an hour, the > > full load would have to be shouldered in 60 minutes, as > > opposed to evenly distri

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Checking once an hour is obscene. > > Evan, dude, shut up and mind your own business. (and i mean that in the most constructive manner) you dont know me, you do not admin this business, and we are not stupid and have been doing this for longer than many on this list have been alive. i

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Evan Platt
At 08:19 AM 3/29/2009, you wrote: Evan, naw, hourly is just fine. we update "sought ruleset" at the same time. i spose i could change it, yet spam is not a once a day thing. spam is all day every day, so hourly is the least i want to see things updated. But you're not seeing things updated

RE: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> From: Karsten Bräckelmann > Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. > After all, the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) > > The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever an update > has been pushed. If everyone would check once an hour, the > full load would hav

Re: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 18:14 +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) Heh, true. And he could run sa-update even more frequently. After all, the DNS answer is cached for an hour... ;) The real impact isn't the DNS query, but whenever

Re: update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Justin Mason
on the other hand, the sa-update architecture can cope with it just fine. ;) 2009/3/29 Karsten Bräckelmann : >> > Isn't that a tad overkill? > > It is. :) > >> > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates >> > >> > How often should I run sa-update? >> > >> > As often as you like. It typically

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 09:20 -0700, RobertH wrote: > > > > Indeed. Either Robert is running some really old SA version, > > or updating is plain broken on his machine. > > > > Well, or he deliberately put those rules back in locally... The latter -- according to the other sub-thread all these ru

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Indeed. Either Robert is running some really old SA version, > or updating is plain broken on his machine. > > Well, or he deliberately put those rules back in locally... i believe i have checked all the rules. we run 3.2.5 most of the rules were addons. here is [r...@ac updates_spamas

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> > Nope, you don't. You got a problem with your custom rules. > > > > here is what it is tripping on... > > > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D Host starts with d-d-d-d > > 1.2 HOST_EQ_STATIC HOST_EQ_STATIC > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DBHost is d-d-d-d > > 1.3 HOST_EQ_CHARTER

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 23:27 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > when did you sa-update for last time? afaik FH_HOST_EQ_* > > > rules were removed some time ago. Not that current rules > > > don't have some issues... > > > > > > And, of course, you have some rules unknown to me and clean

update overkill (was: help lowering score on a specific email list situation)

2009-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
> > Isn't that a tad overkill? It is. :) > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates > > > > How often should I run sa-update? > > > > As often as you like. It typically depends on what time-frame > > is comfortable for you, and how quickly channels are going to > > be publishing upda

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> From: Evan Platt > > Isn't that a tad overkill? > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates > > How often should I run sa-update? > > As often as you like. It typically depends on what time-frame > is comfortable for you, and how quickly channels are going to > be publishing upda

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread RobertH
> From: LuKreme > > Why re you running SA over known list messages? > LuKreme, u good question. we do it cause i havent decided to want, develope & implement, and to use a way to filter out things i dont want to run through SA on inbound SMTP port 25. it is easier for me to know every

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-29 Thread LuKreme
On 28-Mar-2009, at 17:52, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 17:28 -0600, LuKreme wrote: On 28-Mar-2009, at 15:32, RobertH wrote: i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. Why re you running SA over known list messages? I'm a member of four lists that are not moderated and

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 14:32 -0700, RobertH wrote: > i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. > it is hosted on a charter static and has wierd reverse dns etc etc blah. Nope, you don't. You got a problem with your custom rules. > here is what it is tripping on... > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 17:28 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 28-Mar-2009, at 15:32, RobertH wrote: > > i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. > > Why re you running SA over known list messages? > I'm a member of four lists that are not moderated and do not restrict access to paid-up members o

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread LuKreme
On 28-Mar-2009, at 15:32, RobertH wrote: i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. Why re you running SA over known list messages? -- Suddenly the animals look shiny and new

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > when did you sa-update for last time? afaik FH_HOST_EQ_* > > rules were removed some time ago. Not that current rules > > don't have some issues... > > > > > > And, of course, you have some rules unknown to me and clean > > SA, are you sure those problems aren't caused by them? On 28.03.0

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Evan Platt
At 03:14 PM 3/28/2009, you wrote: Matus, we SA update hourly. Isn't that a tad overkill? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates How often should I run sa-update? As often as you like. It typically depends on what time-frame is comfortable for you, and how quickly channels are goi

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread RobertH
> > Received-SPF: pass (ac.abbacomm.net: SPF record at > cabletv.org designates > 24.196.65.34 as permitted sender) > > how about: > >whitelist_from_spf *...@cabletv.org > > -- > John Hardin KA7OHZ i saw that, yet i dont want to use wildcards... unless i have

RE: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread RobertH
> > when did you sa-update for last time? afaik FH_HOST_EQ_* > rules were removed some time ago. Not that current rules > don't have some issues... > > > And, of course, you have some rules unknown to me and clean > SA, are you sure those problems aren't caused by them? > > -- > Matus UHLAR

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 14:32 -0700, RobertH wrote: > hello > > i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. > > it is hosted on a charter static and has wierd reverse dns etc etc blah. > > so, almost always scores as spam > > here is what it is tripping on... > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, RobertH wrote: http://www.abbacomm.net/temp/salisthdr1.txt can someone help me formulate a good rule to reduce scoring. Given that: Received-SPF: pass (ac.abbacomm.net: SPF record at cabletv.org designates 24.196.65.34 as permitted sender) how about: whitelist_from

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.03.09 14:32, RobertH wrote: > i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. > > it is hosted on a charter static and has wierd reverse dns etc etc blah. > > so, almost always scores as spam > > here is what it is tripping on... > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D Host starts with d-d-

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Matt Kettler
RobertH wrote: > hello > > i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. > > it is hosted on a charter static and has wierd reverse dns etc etc blah. > > so, almost always scores as spam > > here is what it is tripping on... > > 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D Host starts with d-d-d-d > 1.2 H

Re: help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/28/2009 04:32 PM, RobertH wrote: > hello > > i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. > > it is hosted on a charter static and has wierd reverse dns etc etc blah. > > so, almost always scores as spam > > here is what it is trippin

help lowering score on a specific email list situation

2009-03-28 Thread RobertH
hello i have problems with the cabletv.org email list. it is hosted on a charter static and has wierd reverse dns etc etc blah. so, almost always scores as spam here is what it is tripping on... 0.7 FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D Host starts with d-d-d-d 1.2 HOST_EQ_STATIC HOST_EQ_STAT