On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 15:15 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 11:12:
>
> > I rely on DNSWL for the reputable MX.
>
> if repution is 100% needed we all have to make local rescore on all
> local mails, since repution is to be local, not external just
>
> i consid
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024, Thomas Cameron wrote:
On 1/19/24 16:32, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
There is a filtering rule in Gmail:
*Never send it to Spam*
I apply that rule to extremely important emails such as debian-bugs-
dist and debian-devel-announce.
You know that. I know that. But trying to
On 1/19/24 16:32, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
There is a filtering rule in Gmail:
*Never send it to Spam*
I apply that rule to extremely important emails such as debian-bugs-
dist and debian-devel-announce.
You know that. I know that. But trying to explain to the board members
I'm helping out is.
Hellow Thomas,
> But it drops it into the spam folder every time. So when I'm sending
> emails to someone's alias, they have to check their spam folder. Even
> when they mark it as "not spam," GMail still drops it into the spam
> folder. It's very frustrating.
>
There is a filtering rule in Gm
On 1/19/24 14:33, Matija Nalis wrote:
You would need to encourage at least several of the recepients (the
more the better) to click on "Not spam" button on GMail on such
mails. Then it will (eventually) start accepting them normally.
Yup, that's basically what I've been doing.
see e.g.
https
On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 10:37:13AM -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> The forwarded email is being *accepted* by GMail. My issue now is that GMail
> drops it into the recipient's spam folder. I suspect it's a reputation
> thing. Once the server is up and running for a while, I'm hoping that GMail
> wil
On 1/7/24 05:40, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email
comes into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would
normally just create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to
president@ get forwarded to the president's "real" emai
On 1/7/24 04:07, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Hellow Thomas,
See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1043539#88
Sincerely, Byung-Hee
The issue is not so much that GMail doesn't accept the email. It does,
since I have DKIM, DMARC, and SPF set up.
But it drops it into the spam folde
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 11:12:
I rely on DNSWL for the reputable MX.
if repution is 100% needed we all have to make local rescore on all
local mails, since repution is to be local, not external just
i consider dnswl level 0 to be possitive scored, and let the other
levels be n
Marc skrev den 2024-01-19 09:34:
Hi Byung and Benny, are you having a nice MX party? :)
not needed yet, hehe
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 06:16:
Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated
MXs and am continuing to operate them. Plus, the dedicated MXs run on
Google Cloud and RimuHosting.
it was to vierd for me to figure out how to get it working, and posible
in the
On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 08:34 +, Marc wrote:
> > > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27:
> > >
> > > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me.
> > >
> > > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :)
> > >
> >
> > Hellow Benny,
> >
> > Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Rece
> > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27:
> >
> > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me.
> >
> > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :)
> >
>
> Hellow Benny,
>
> Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated
> MXs and am continuing to operate them. Plu
On Mon, 2024-01-08 at 17:17 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27:
>
> > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me.
>
> +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :)
>
Hellow Benny,
Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated
MXs
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27:
Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me.
+1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :)
https://support.google.com/a/answer/140034?hl=en
i don't like it yet, missing dnssec and dane, tlsa, google is not
friendly there
if google wants my money
This is not a good advice. Whoever filters SPF at SMTP time will
reject that
message. Gmail is not the only mail service available.
On 08.01.24 20:27, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me.
that's what I wanted to say - enough for someone, but not generally enoug
>
> This is not a good advice. Whoever filters SPF at SMTP time will
> reject that
> message. Gmail is not the only mail service available.
Hellow Matus,
Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me.
Sincerely, Byung-Hee
--
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//
I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes
into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just
create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get
forwarded to the president's "real" email address, say
presidents_real_em...@gmail.com.
>
> I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email
> comes
> into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally
> just
> create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get
> forwarded to the president's "real" email address, say
> presidents_real_
Hello,
On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 01:24:02PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:
> On 1/2/24 17:51, Andy Smith wrote:
> > - Have your users collect their your-org email by some means other
> >than SMTP, such as running an IMAP server and having them view
> >both their gmail mailbox and the
On 1/4/24 06:35, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On 03.01.24 20:36, Thomas Cameron wrote:
Fair point. But I'm guessing that because it has two DKIM signatures,
it's not passing the DKIM check.
only one of those DKIM dignatures needs to pass, with the domain in From:
Yup, and it seems to be wor
On 1/4/24 06:31, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On 03.01.24 19:30, Thomas Cameron wrote:
Thanks for the advice on SRS - I have set it up and it's mostly
working. At least GMail accepts the emails, although it seems to be
failing DKIM and DMARC tests. I'm digging into what, if anything, can
be d
Thomas Cameron writes:
Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I
see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call
it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it
mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signatures in the message.
On 1/3/24 19:45,
On 1/3/24 15:44, Bill Cole wrote:
Indeed: your solution is known as "SRS" (Sender Rewriting Scheme)
and it has multiple implementations. If you forward mail, you will
break SPF unless you fix the envelope sender so that it uses a
domain that permits the example.org server to send for it.
OR,
On 1/3/24 19:45, Greg Troxel wrote:
Thomas Cameron writes:
Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I
see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call
it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it
mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signa
Thomas Cameron writes:
> Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I
> see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call
> it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it
> mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signatures in the message.
That's more
On 1/3/24 17:41, Greg Troxel wrote:
You are overlooking that DKIM from the original From: is the
responsibility of that domain and that if you do not modify the message
then it should still pass. Domains sending without DKIM are going to be
a mess.
Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the fo
On 1/3/24 15:44, Bill Cole wrote:
Indeed: your solution is known as "SRS" (Sender Rewriting Scheme) and it
has multiple implementations. If you forward mail, you will break SPF
unless you fix the envelope sender so that it uses a domain that
permits the example.org server to send for it.
O
On 1/3/24 18:16, Michael Grant wrote:
Here's what I have done in the past from my server to get around this
situation you are having:
1. In my .procmailrc file
:0c:
!exam...@gmail.com
This sends a copy (the c flag in first line) of the message to the
gmail account and leaves a copy in your inb
Here's what I have done in the past from my server to get around this
situation you are having:
1. In my .procmailrc file
:0c:
!exam...@gmail.com
This sends a copy (the c flag in first line) of the message to the
gmail account and leaves a copy in your inbox.
2. From your exam...@gmail.com acct
"Thomas Cameron via users" writes:
> I actually set up SPF, DMARC, and DKIM on the non-profit's email
> server. It works fine if I send email from the server.
>
> The rub is, I want all emails to presid...@example.org to be forwarded
> to presidents_real_addr...@gmail.com. Since the forward happe
Hello Thomas,
This might help too:
These failures are often due to SPFs that have a hard fail (meaning they end
with ‘-all’). When I dealt with this in the past, the original sending domain
was one where we could modify the SPF. So we had the email sender change “-all”
to “~all” and since that
On 2024-01-03 at 14:17:11 UTC-0500 (Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:17:11 -0600)
Thomas Cameron via users
is rumored to have said:
The rub is, I want all emails to presid...@example.org to be forwarded
to presidents_real_addr...@gmail.com. Since the forward happens at
mail.example.org, the "from" is from s
On 1/2/24 17:51, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi Thomas,
On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:24:37PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:
I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into
the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an
alias in /etc/aliases s
On 1/3/24 01:21, Jared Hall wrote:
On 1/2/2024 5:24 PM, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:
The problem is, when I send email to presid...@myassociation.org,
gmail rejects the forwarded email because it appears to come from my
personal domain, not the mythical myassociation.org domain. DKIM,
DMA
On 1/2/2024 5:24 PM, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:
The problem is, when I send email to presid...@myassociation.org,
gmail rejects the forwarded email because it appears to come from my
personal domain, not the mythical myassociation.org domain. DKIM,
DMARC, and SPF all fail, which I totall
"Thomas Cameron via users" writes:
> I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes
> into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just
> create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get
> forwarded to the president's "real" email addre
Hi Thomas,
On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:24:37PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote:
> I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into
> the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an
> alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get
Howdy, all -
This is not strictly SpamAssassin related, but y'all probably know where
to point me to make this work.
I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes
into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just
create an alias in /etc/aliases s
Jonas Eckerman wrote:
This really would be more on topic on the MIMEDefang list, but here goes...
You have a small but significant typo in your code:
if ($hits >= req) {
You forgot the "$" in "$req".
The effect of the above comparison is that all mail that scores above 0
This really would be more on topic on the MIMEDefang list, but here goes...
You have a small but significant typo in your code:
> if ($hits >= req) {
You forgot the "$" in "$req".
The effect of the above comparison is that all mail that scores above 0 (zero)
are considered spam.
R
OS - slackware 11.0
MDA - sendmail 8.13.8
mimedefang version 2.58
SpamAssassin version 3.1.7
running on Perl version 5.8.8
I have one user that has to get email forwarded from an old account to
the server that I administer. I have spam going to a spamdrop via
MiMEDefang. So I added this lit
I do have procmail setup on mail1. I didn't think of that, but thought my SMTP server would forward the message before looking at my own personal rules (the forward is in /etc/aliases).
I renamed my .procmailrc to something else so maybe that will fix it.
Also, SA does see and flag the messa
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Larry Starr wrote:
> Are you certain that SA even sees the message before it's forwarded?
>
> My first guess, without seeing config files, etc. Would be that your SMTP
> daemon (sendmail?) is forwarding the message as it's received.
This sounds like 'filtering with procmai
Are you certain that SA even sees the message before it's forwarded?
My first guess, without seeing config files, etc. Would be that your SMTP
daemon (sendmail?) is forwarding the message as it's received.
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 12:24, ajmcello wrote:
> I'm having an issue with SA usin
I'm having an issue with SA using two mail servers and forwarding using /etc/aliases (although .forward should produce the same result). Lets say an E-mail comes into mail1 for bob, and is flagged as spam. This part works fine.
Now, bob has a forward set up in /etc/aliases on mail1 to go to [E
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