Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-22 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 May 2016, at 13:03, Alex wrote: Hi, Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? SPF is specified to apply to the domain in the SMTP envelope sender and secondarily, the HELO domain. It is not rational to expect that a SPF record for the

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.05.2016 um 19:13 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: Am 21.05.2016 um 06:04 schrieb Nick Edwards: clueless newbie troll microsofts own attempt at SPF did allow checking in "from" On 21.05.16 12:47, Reindl Harald wrote: ididot SPF is defined by the IETF and not by microsoft https://en.wik

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Am 21.05.2016 um 06:04 schrieb Nick Edwards: clueless newbie troll microsofts own attempt at SPF did allow checking in "from" On 21.05.16 12:47, Reindl Harald wrote: ididot SPF is defined by the IETF and not by microsoft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_ID != https://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-21 Thread Reindl Harald
nfuse DMARC with SPF From: Reindl Harald mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23:45 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org <mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org> Subject:

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Nick Edwards
e Microsoft, who check against the From in the header. >> > > nonsense > > you likely confuse DMARC with SPF > > > >> From: Reindl Harald >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23:45 AM >> To: users@spamassassin.apac

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz Am 20.05.2016 um 19:03 schrieb Alex: Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-05-20 19:03, Alex wrote: Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which would be easier for me. use opendkim for this test, and if you have Sender-ID on your o

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz Am 20.05.2016 um 19:03 schrieb Alex: Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which would be easier for me SPF is by

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Vincent Fox
SPF is only about envelopes? Unless you are Microsoft, who check against the From in the header. From: Reindl Harald Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23:45 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz Am 20.05.2016 um

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 19:03 schrieb Alex: Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which would be easier for me SPF is by definition only about envelopes however, just use

Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Alex
Hi, Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which would be easier for me. Apparently using the regular From address appears to not be considered, however. Perhaps I shou