Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 00:35 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > We _really_ need to change that rule's description... > > > > Uhm, while I would never argue that naming to be unfortunate in > > hindsight, despite most of the time actually matching its stated goal... > > > > I blame this one on Alex (the other

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, >> We _really_ need to change that rule's description... > > Uhm, while I would never argue that naming to be unfortunate in > hindsight, despite most of the time actually matching its stated goal... > > I blame this one on Alex (the otherwise anonymous $mysqlstudent). He's > been around long

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 13:09 -0700, John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > AWL is NOT an 'auto whitelist'. and is not used by default configs anymore. > > instead of including the massive volume of documentation on what AWL is and > > is not, just google. > > We _r

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 13:16 -0700, John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Your MUA still can't handle UTF-8, eh? Fixed my name. ;) > > If there really is no way to use whitelist_from_rcvd, you of course > > always can write custom header rules, matching against the ps

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Joseph Brennan
David B Funk wrote: Notice also that the rule checks the header From:, not the envelope, and they could be different. When did that change? Sorry. I am wrong. Joseph Brennan Columbia University Information Technology

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 2010-10-05 22:16, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Karsten Br�ckelmann wrote: If there really is no way to use whitelist_from_rcvd, you of course always can write custom header rules, matching against the pseudo header X-Spam-Relays-Internal or friends, carefully constructing the RE to

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: If there really is no way to use whitelist_from_rcvd, you of course always can write custom header rules, matching against the pseudo header X-Spam-Relays-Internal or friends, carefully constructing the RE to match a specific Received header by cons

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 10/5/10 10:40 AM, Alex wrote: * 0.7 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list AWL is NOT an 'auto whitelist'. and is not used by default configs anymore. instead of including the massive volume of documentation on what AWL

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Joseph Brennan wrote: > > --On Tuesday, October 5, 2010 10:40 -0400 Alex > wrote: > > > I have an email that I'm trying to whitelist using whitelist_from_rcvd > > and it's not working as I expect. I've created an entry: > > [snip..] > > Notice also that the rule checks the hea

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, >> $ host 209.16.192.170 >> 170.192.16.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer Lanyon.com. > > but they don't match: > host Lanyon.com > Lanyon.com has address 97.74.177.132 > > 97.74.177.132 > 132.177.74.97.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer > ip-97-74-177-132.ip.secureserver.net. Ah, right, I se

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 10/5/10 12:45 PM, Alex wrote: $ host 209.16.192.170 170.192.16.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer Lanyon.com. but they don't match: host Lanyon.com Lanyon.com has address 97.74.177.132 97.74.177.132 132.177.74.97.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer ip-97-74-177-132.ip.secureserver.net. wh

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, >> $ host S253906HZ1EW06.usstls6-hosting.savvis.net >> Host S253906HZ1EW06.usstls6-hosting.savvis.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > Err, you're doing rDNS lookup for the connecting host's IP, not the > rather arbitrary HELO as you just did. Okay, understood. I'm able to resolve that IP, though:

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 11:51 -0400, Alex wrote: > > As the documentation [1] clearly states, the second value (a) is a > > string matched against the relay's rDNS in the Received headers, and > > (b) it is your MX's responsibility to perform the rDNS lookup and add it > > to the header. > > $ hos

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, >> X-Envelope-From: >> Received: from S253906HZ1EW06.usstls6-hosting.savvis.net (unknown >> [209.16.192.170]) >> >> Is it because there is no reverse DNS entry? > > As the documentation [1] clearly states, the second value  (a) is a > string matched against the relay's rDNS in the Received he

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 10:40 -0400, Alex wrote: > I have an email that I'm trying to whitelist using whitelist_from_rcvd > and it's not working as I expect. I've created an entry: > > whitelist_from_rcvd u...@lanyon.com savvis.net > > Here is the corresponding received header: > > X-Envelope-From

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Tuesday, October 5, 2010 10:40 -0400 Alex wrote: I have an email that I'm trying to whitelist using whitelist_from_rcvd and it's not working as I expect. I've created an entry: whitelist_from_rcvd u...@lanyon.com savvis.net Here is the corresponding received header: X-Envelope-From:

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 10/5/10 10:40 AM, Alex wrote: Hi, I have an email that I'm trying to whitelist using whitelist_from_rcvd and it's not working as I expect. I've created an entry: whitelist_from_rcvd u...@lanyon.com savvis.net Here is the corresponding received header: X-Envelope-From: Received: from S2539

Re: Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread RW
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 10:40:07 -0400 Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I have an email that I'm trying to whitelist using whitelist_from_rcvd > and it's not working as I expect. I've created an entry: > >... > > Is it because there is no reverse DNS entry? Yes. It would be nice to have the option look it up

Whitelist questions

2010-10-05 Thread Alex
Hi, I have an email that I'm trying to whitelist using whitelist_from_rcvd and it's not working as I expect. I've created an entry: whitelist_from_rcvd u...@lanyon.com savvis.net Here is the corresponding received header: X-Envelope-From: Received: from S253906HZ1EW06.usstls6-hosting.savvis.ne