RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Smart,Dan
> -Original Message- > From: Don Saklad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:02 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Usability. Spamassassin. > > Thank you for your interest in the usability of

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Andy Jezierski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/08/2004 12:13:04 PM: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > [snip] > > Although it would be nice if the links above actually looked like links > > to Joe Average rather then being in the same colour as the actual text!! > > they don't? they're in

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Hepworth writes: > NM Public wrote: > > > > > And then say something like: If you do not immediately know the answer > > to all these questions, you should not be installing or administering > > SpamAssassin (unless it is for educational pu

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
Thank you for your interest in the usability of the spamassassin headers ! At this end spamassassin headers appear with messages in emacs rmail. What puzzles people is how to use the headers effectively, efficiently, where many have not the apparent mastery exhibited among the other enthusiasts.

Re: -Metalevel. Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Andy Jezierski
Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/08/2004 11:46:34 AM: > Who do you believe actually set it up?... stormloader.com/saklad > > >IFRAME: >http://216.98.142.114/cgi-bin/advertpro/banners.fcgi? > region=7&keyword=NULL >Click Here! > >The Don

-Metalevel. Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
Who do you believe actually set it up?... stormloader.com/saklad IFRAME: http://216.98.142.114/cgi-bin/advertpro/banners.fcgi?region=7&keyword=NULL Click Here! The Don Saklad Tribute pages logo Don Saklad, BPL, Boston Public L

RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, [N.B.: I'm speaking generally to this thread, not specifically to Chris.] On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Chris Santerre wrote: > I was mistaken. MIT now teaches Trolling 101. [...] I'm not willing to personalize this issue. SpamAssassin *is* difficult to use and is probably unusable for most unskilled/

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Julian Field
At 16:43 07/09/2004, Don Saklad wrote: How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. 1. Install MailScanner. Plenty of installation help available, and it

RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:52 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Usability. Spamassassin. > > >Chris Santerre wrote: > >> >>Is MIT teaching a course

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Don Saklad wrote: Here's the original question that did not get through !... http://zork.net/~dsaklad/usabilityspamassassin.html Are you aware that no question actually appears anywhere on that page? It seems like it's perhaps a statement of frustration. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-qu

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
Here's the original question that did not get through !... http://zork.net/~dsaklad/usabilityspamassassin.html

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Andy Jezierski
Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/07/2004 10:43:45 AM: > How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people > with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile > with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. > > Apparently compiling a list o

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Chris Santerre wrote: Is MIT teaching a course in useless sarcasim now? Both of your responses do nothing to help this conversation. Next time Bob might just answer RTFM, instead of actually trying to help you. http://www.stormloader.com/saklad/ Don is um... probably not looking for an answer. H

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 09:55:08 -0400 Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See also > usability > http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+usability Please rephrase this in the form of a question. -- Bob

RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Don Saklad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:55 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Usability. Spamassassin. > > >See also > usability >http://www.google.com/searc

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
See also usability http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+usability

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Martin Hepworth
NM Public wrote: And then say something like: If you do not immediately know the answer to all these questions, you should not be installing or administering SpamAssassin (unless it is for educational purposes and for processing only *your* email). The Procmail web site needs this too! NM alr

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread NM Public
On 7 Sep 2004 Bob Apthorpe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [...] If the answer is 'a WinXP user who retrieves mail via POP3 with Outlook and who does not use the command line and does not program, not even a little bit, and who wants a button to press to make spam go away' then the answer is probably no

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 22:26:58 -0400 Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...to put into action or service : avail oneself of : employ > > Click on the verb > use[2, verb] > at > http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=use&x=15&y=15 That really doesn't help, now does it?

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
...to put into action or service : avail oneself of : employ Click on the verb use[2, verb] at http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=use&x=15&y=15

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Don, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 8:43:45 AM, you wrote: DS> How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people DS> with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile DS> with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. What do you mean by "to use spa

Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-07 Thread Don Saklad
How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. Apparently compiling a list of frequent terms and sorting through the emacs rmail do help a little bit, for