Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 9/18/2015 4:25 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 16.09.15 09:50, Bowie Bailey wrote: The SA config is probably a better solution than the bind exemptions. I would say just the opposite. For example, MTA at SMTP level can look up RBLs, and SA would benefit from having records in local cac

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.09.15 09:50, Bowie Bailey wrote: The SA config is probably a better solution than the bind exemptions. I would say just the opposite. For example, MTA at SMTP level can look up RBLs, and SA would benefit from having records in local cache. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ;

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
Reindl Harald skrev den 2015-09-16 15:35: "cache-min-ttl" is AFAIK a unbound-only feature because it violates RFC's but in case of a mailserver it's your decision and if you don#t set it for days normally not a problem so configure unbound to listing only on 127.0.0.2 and in named.conf use fo

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
The SA config is probably a better solution than the bind exemptions. As was pointed out elsewhere in this thread, URIBL is not the only DNS-based blacklist that enforces usage limits and it may not be as easy to tell that you are being blocked with some of the others. If you add in the 'dns_

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2015 um 15:22 schrieb Marc Richter: All this is true. As you already pointed out in a previous post, resolving is quite slow on that host. I have no influence on the networking arround that box. So I did not want other things starting to go slow by this. well, and there unbound with

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Marc Richter
All this is true. As you already pointed out in a previous post, resolving is quite slow on that host. I have no influence on the networking arround that box. So I did not want other things starting to go slow by this. But you convinced me - I now also thing that the other way bears too much

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2015 um 13:38 schrieb Marc Richter: Am 16.09.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Axb: Although, the intended setup with exemptions by defining empty forwarders for DNSBL zones was not my idea - this scenario is described on the SA wiki as a working solution: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Cach

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Marc Richter
Hi Axb, Am 16.09.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Axb: Although, the intended setup with exemptions by defining empty forwarders for DNSBL zones was not my idea - this scenario is described on the SA wiki as a working solution: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CachingNameserver#Non-forwarding This seem

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Marc Richter
Hi Axb, yes, I did c&p the config block from the wiki 1:1 into my BIND setup. I have added that zone - exemption you suggested into my config. I'll wait for a few spams to arrive to see the results. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Best regards, Marc Am 16.09.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Axb: O

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2015 um 11:36 schrieb Marc Richter: I am - it's the very same setup you describe like I'm using. The only difference is that I do not rely on a dedicated DNS resolver I setup myself, but the centralized nameserver of my ISP, which works exactly like any nameserver I'd setup myself. no

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Marc Richter
Hi Adam, that's a great workarround and perfectly fits my needs! Thank you for that! :) I'll use this if I cannot find out why my exemptions do not work in a reasonable amount of time. Best regards, Marc Am 15.09.2015 um 20:14 schrieb Adam Major: Hi. If you don't want change DNS resolver

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Axb
On 09/16/2015 11:36 AM, Marc Richter wrote: if you are trying to insult people at all costs really? you would recognize it when i intend to do so Please read your previous reply again. You will find that you used a very harsh tone against someone who comes here asking questions in a reasonab

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Marc Richter
Hi Bowie, thanks for your reply. I would suggest temporarily removing the forward completely as a test and see if this fixes the problem. If so, then your exemptions are not working correctly. If not, then double-check that you are actually using the local server and not still querying the IS

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Marc Richter
if you are trying to insult people at all costs really? you would recognize it when i intend to do so Please read your previous reply again. You will find that you used a very harsh tone against someone who comes here asking questions in a reasonable and moderate tone. Yes - maybe I *am* do

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-16 Thread Marc Richter
Hi Dave, you are right: That is a measurement of "how fast is my ISP's cache?". But literally, that's all I want: I do not want "better" DNS results than I got from my ISPs DNS servers so far. I'd like to keep up the benefit of using a large DNS cache, without blocking these resources on my ho

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Adam Major
Hi. If you don't want change DNS resolver for all DNS queries from your server you can add in SA config line: dns_server x.y.z.k:53 where z.y.z.k is IP DNS server using to resolve only by SA. Then in resolv.conf you can use different (ex. ISP) DNS server. More info: http://spamassassin.apac

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 9/15/2015 6:51 AM, Marc Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I recently read the following in all my filtered Mail: 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. So I read what's writ

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Dave Funk
However you did not empty your ISP's dns server cache. That 2 msec response time is from his cache, the 543 msec for your server is when it's not in your server's cache. So you're not making a fair comparison. A response from a cache is always going to be faster, that's why people use caching

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
Marc Richter skrev den 2015-09-15 13:23: That's 271 times faster than root-servers's lookup. hmm maybe your server is heavy loaded of spam ?, and your isp is not ? lets check this so: dig +trace uribl.com show me how it is for you note +trace do not care of forwards at all what version o

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Marc Richter
Yes Am 15.09.2015 um 13:30 schrieb Axb: On 09/15/2015 01:23 PM, Marc Richter wrote: Also, you shouldn't make assumptions without measuring something: 1. without forwarding: ;; Query time: 543 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) 2. with forwarding to my ISP's servers: ;; Query time: 2 ms

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
Marc Richter skrev den 2015-09-15 12:51: But even the IP of my server was sending just 2 requests for incomming spam since I have integrated BIND, these messages contain this ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE also. How can I hit the free usage limit by just 2 requests? https://www.google.dk/search?q=dnswal

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.09.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Marc Richter: if you are trying to insult people at all costs really? you would recognize it when i intend to do so *any* expierienced mailadmin out there has a local recursion nameserver on his MTA or at least somewhere in his LAN to use a central local cache

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Axb
On 09/15/2015 01:23 PM, Marc Richter wrote: Also, you shouldn't make assumptions without measuring something: 1. without forwarding: ;; Query time: 543 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) 2. with forwarding to my ISP's servers: ;; Query time: 2 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) Tha

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Marc Richter
Hey Reindl, if you are trying to insult people at all costs, you should read and understand their posts in full before doing so at least, to not look like a jackass additional to an impolite person. What I wrote is: >> ... but created the exemptions as listed at the very bottom of that >> si

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Axb
On 09/15/2015 12:51 PM, Marc Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I recently read the following in all my filtered Mail: 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. So I read what's wr

Re: URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.09.2015 um 12:51 schrieb Marc Richter: I recently read the following in all my filtered Mail: 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. So I read what's written there

URIBL_BLOCKED while using local BIND

2015-09-15 Thread Marc Richter
Hi everyone, I recently read the following in all my filtered Mail: 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. So I read what's written there and setup a local DNS server, as