Re: OT: RE: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-16 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, February 16, 2009 8:57 AM +1300 Michael Hutchinson wrote: "plenty of people are greedy, gullible, uninformed, overly trusting, stupid, or some combination of the above" This also means: "Anyone that doesn't use a computer as much as an E-Mail administrator" Coincidentally, this

Re: OT: RE: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
s [mailto:kpar...@ed.sc.gov] > Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2009 9:43 a.m. > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: URI with spaces are not recognized > > Artificial intelligence will never overcome natural stupidity (or the > clever ingenuity of criminals) ... if people actually DO th

OT: RE: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-15 Thread Michael Hutchinson
in.apache.org Subject: Re: URI with spaces are not recognized Artificial intelligence will never overcome natural stupidity (or the clever ingenuity of criminals) ... if people actually DO that (copy the "url" and remove the spaces) there is some temptation to say they get what they deserve ..

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-14 Thread mouss
Wolfgang Zeikat a écrit : > I think the discussion is getting carried in a direction where we are > missing a point: spam detection. > exactly. otherwise, there's no point to waste resources running SA. after all, nobody would die for visiting a porn/casino/pharma/... site ;-p and there's also

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-14 Thread Franz Schwartau
Hi John! John Hardin wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: > >> On Fri, February 13, 2009 18:12, John Hardin wrote: >>> If a URI rule works, what's wrong with a body rule? >> >> nothing wroung making bad rules either, point is that if bad rules >> is needed one have also bad behavin

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:43 -0500, Kevin Parris wrote: > Artificial intelligence will never overcome natural stupidity (or the > clever ingenuity of criminals) ... if people actually DO that (copy > the "url" and remove the spaces) there is some temptation to say they > get what they deserve ... bu

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat
I think the discussion is getting carried in a direction where we are missing a point: spam detection. Kevin Parris wrote: Artificial intelligence will never overcome natural stupidity (or the clever ingenuity of criminals) ... if people actually DO that (copy the "url" and remove the spaces) t

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread Kevin Parris
Artificial intelligence will never overcome natural stupidity (or the clever ingenuity of criminals) ... if people actually DO that (copy the "url" and remove the spaces) there is some temptation to say they get what they deserve ... but on the other hand most of the spam/scam stuff out there is

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, McDonald, Dan wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 11:55 -0800, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Franz Schwartau wrote: So, does anyone know a more general solution for this kind of spam instead of individual body rules? You might try a rule like: body URI_SPC_OBFU_SP

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 11:55 -0800, John Hardin wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > > So, does anyone know a more general solution for this kind of spam > > instead of individual body rules? > > You might try a rule like: > > body URI_SPC_OBFU_SPC > /\bwww\s{1,20}\.\s{1,20}

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Fri, February 13, 2009 18:12, John Hardin wrote: If a URI rule works, what's wrong with a body rule? nothing wroung making bad rules either, point is that if bad rules is needed one have also bad behaving browser problem Why should the fact that

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, February 13, 2009 20:18, Franz Schwartau wrote: > C'mon... france > Patient: "Doctor, if I press down here it really hurts..." > Doctor: "Don't press there then." thats real life, not email > You won't solve a problem by defining there is no problem. where is the problem ?, 40 cm from

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread Franz Schwartau
C'mon... Patient: "Doctor, if I press down here it really hurts..." Doctor: "Don't press there then." You won't solve a problem by defining there is no problem. In these spams people are requested to remove the spaces when entering the given string ("url") in their browser. Benny Pedersen wrote

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread Franz Schwartau
Hi John, thanks for your answer. Probably I should have written more about my problem. We're getting a lot of spam with obfuscated urls in the form www . domain . net The domain part changes quite often (about daily). The number of domains is nearly 100 by now. Of course we have body rules for

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, February 13, 2009 18:12, John Hardin wrote: > If a URI rule works, what's wrong with a body rule? nothing wroung making bad rules either, point is that if bad rules is needed one have also bad behaving browser problem -- http://localhost/ 100% uptime and 100% mirrored :)

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, February 12, 2009 18:26, Franz Schwartau wrote: www . abcdef . net Would be fine if I could use the "uri" directive If a URI rule works, what's wrong with a body rule? body URI_SPC_OBFU_nn /\bwww\s{1,20}\.\s{1,20}abcdef\s{1,20}\.\s{1,20}net

Re: URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, February 12, 2009 18:26, Franz Schwartau wrote: > www . abcdef . net > > After reading the source for a while I found that $schemelessRE in > line 1720 of Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus.pm seems to be > responsible for that. Unfortunally this regexp doesn't care > about whitespaces. gi

URI with spaces are not recognized

2009-02-12 Thread Franz Schwartau
Hi! A lot of spams arrives here with URI like strings containing spaces, e.g.: www . abcdef . net After reading the source for a while I found that $schemelessRE in line 1720 of Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus.pm seems to be responsible for that. Unfortunally this regexp doesn't care about whi