Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Blaine Fleming
If gmail has a problem, then without a doubt, blacklist them until they fix it. Seems pretty simple to me. I know that the ISP's I run mail systems for would lose their customers if they stop getting mail from Google. The customer attitude is that the provider should take measures to bloc

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Gene Heskett
t; >>Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google. > >If it passes DKIM verification, then it comes from them. > >>Time to blacklist google. > >The users may complain if you do that. > With all due regard for google & all that rot, the one thing they do und

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread John Rudd
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Time to blacklist google. The users may complain if you do that. To [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem solved! No. Your users may complain to you that they're unable to receive email from colleagues/friends/etc. who use googl

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Time to blacklist google. > > The users may complain if you do that. To [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problem solved! -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrums) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite - Universitätsmedizin BerlinTel. +49 (0)30-450

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread SM
it passes DKIM verification, then it comes from them. Time to blacklist google. The users may complain if you do that. Regards, -sm

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Ken A
Michael Scheidell wrote: Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people are forging our domain'. Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google. Time to blacklist google. Either google lies or they have been hacked and hackers are spammi

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Some people might think you are over reacting > > I can only imagine what it would be like trying to control outgoing spam > at Google. Well, there's a difference between: * we didn't do it (altough evidence says they did) and * we're sorry, we're work

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Mark Johnson
Michael Scheidell wrote: Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people are forging our domain'. Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google. Time to blacklist google. I read an article the other day about the bad people have cracked

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Evan Platt
At 06:16 AM 2/29/2008, Marc Perkel wrote: Some people might think you are over reacting I can only imagine what it would be like trying to control outgoing spam at Google. The problem is Google does nothing. I've reported dozens of google groups newsgroup spammers. They take no action

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Marc Perkel
Michael Scheidell wrote: Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people are forging our domain'. Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google. Time to blacklist google. Either google lies or they have been hacked and hackers are spammi

Re: Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Michael Scheidell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people > are forging our domain'. > > Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google. > Time to blacklist google. Yep. That's the whole

Time to blacklist google.

2008-02-29 Thread Michael Scheidell
Ok, google/gmail emails back says 'this didn't come from us because people are forging our domain'. Reverse dns shows it google, dkim sig says its google. Time to blacklist google. Either google lies or they have been hacked and hackers are spamming through them. Either case, ti